Typical RTG Session for Me (With Bonus)

[Pinababy69]

Well, with all the uproar re: RTG, I decided to really track a whole session from start to finish, using a coupon, to see if I could make playthrough, time playing, etc. It was actually when JustPlay asked me how I do it, that I got the idea. It may not really say alot, but it's some real data on how the slots play for me personally.

I took the Reel Ladies coupon (75%) at Inetbet. And let me say I'm not really a fan of these particular coupons, as you are limited to about half a dozen games that you can play. Playthrough was 20X, and I made a whopping $16 deposit...so my starting balance was $28, and my playthrough was $560.

The first number is # of spins til next feature, second # is the dollar result of the feature.

Cleopatra's Gold (Starting Balance - $28)

Bet Amount - 20 cents

45 - $10
169 - $18.66 (2 retriggers)
24 - $13.99 (1 retrigger)
74 - quit

Total # of spins - 312
Wagered - $62.40
Ending Balance $40.17

Incan Goddess (Starting Balance - $40.17)

Bet Amount - 20 cents

57 - $4.22
49 - $11.99 (1 retrigger)
137 - $1.94
105 - $2.55
130 - $6.60
33 - $2.50
20 - $3.68
69 - $1.88
27 - $24.90

Total # of spins - 627
Wagered - $125.40
Ending Balance - $39.06

Mayan Queen (Starting Balance - $39.06)

Bet Amount - 25 cents

160 - $27.95
10 - $4.85
131 - $3.10
53 - $11.50 (1 retrigger)
107 - $16.70 (2 retriggers)
15 - $2.60
5 - $4.60
47 - $16.20

Total # of spins - 528
Wagered - $132.00
Ending Balance - $72.33

TOTALS SO FAR

Total amount wagered - $319.80
Total # of spins - 1467
Time Playing - 2 1/2 hours

Amount Left to Wager - $240.20
Balance - $72.33

I'm tired right now, and still have to eat dinner, so I will finish it off tonight or tomorrow. But this is a pretty typical session for me, maybe a third of the time. Many other times I would have busted out by now, and then there is the occasional time when I get a really good hit early on, up my bet, and get lucky enough to clear WR and cashout.

I realize this isn't everyone's type of play, not at all. I remember Simmo once saying that he prefers to make a large deposit, and take some spins at max bet...if he hits, super, he cashes out. If he busts, he'll try again another day. And I expect alot of people play like that as well.

I actually enjoy the challenge of trying to beat the bonus. But it IS a grind, and if you don't have the patience, or the time, to sit and play minimum bets for hours....then it's not for you.

Anyway, $70 balance with a PT of $240...we'll see what happens. All it takes is one decent hit. If only I could go play Mystic Dragon, or Paydirt, lol.

Oh, and one other thing.....someone commented in another thread that players shouldn't have to track their own wagering. I agree, they shouldn't..if the counters are working correctly. But there have been many threads over the years where that is not the case, and not just with RTG, but also with MG. So I still maintain it's the wise thing to do. I always track my spins...although not to the level I did today of recording bonus rounds, etc. But I do count up my spins after I leave each game, and check my calculations against playthrough showing in the cashier, just to be safe. JMO.

 

[RobWin]

Mayan Queen (Starting Balance - $39.06)

Bet Amount - 25 cents

160 - $27.95

So you were obviously not counting your interim wins then?

Considering the fact that you started this game session with a balance of $39.06 and you say you made 160 spins at 0.25 cents which would have been $40.00 and you only had $39.06?

What am I missing here?
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[Pinababy69]

I started with $39.06 when I went to Mayan Queen. It took me 160 spins to get the free spins the first time, and they paid $27.95. Can't remember what my balance was down to when I finally hit them..but I know that bonus round took me over the $50 mark...so I'm guessing I was at about $24 when I hit. So no, I wasn't counting any "line wins" into the equation. 160 spins is $40 worth of wagers, but I only spent about $15 of my starting balance to get there.

Capisce?

 

[just play]

So you were obviously not counting your interim wins then?

Considering the fact that you started this game session with a balance of $39.06 and you say you made 160 spins at 0.25 cents which would have been $40.00 and you only had $39.06?

What am I missing here?
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I believe Pina is just counting until she gets the features.

The first number is # of spins til next feature, second # is the dollar result of the feature.

My play would be totally different. I believe you are just one of the lucky people, and I am one of the unlucky people.


oops...posting at same time

one more thing....I will do the exact same thing next week and you can see the difference.

 

[bb28]

Your 16 bucks has went a lot better for you than my 18 bucks did the other night. Of course I played the 11.00 freebie and it went quite well until I got bored and bet bigger bets......then poof.

 

[RobWin]

I believe Pina is just counting until she gets the features.



My play would be totally different. I believe you are just one of the lucky people, and I am one of the unlucky people.


oops...posting at same time

one more thing....I will do the exact same thing next week and you can see the difference.

Damn 'just play', I'm digging the hell out of that new avatar you got there, and if that's you...:notworthy
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[just play]

Damn 'just play', I'm digging the hell out of that new avatar you got there, and if that's you...:notworthy
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Ya that's me.


















In my dreams of course.

 

[Pinababy69]

Continued...

Okay, so after dinner, I carried on. Results thus far:

Mermaid Queen (Starting Balance - $72.33)

Bet Amount - 20 cents

39 - $1.61
97 - $5.70
142 - $3.92
72 - $8.39

Total # of spins - 350
Wagered - $70.00
Ending Balance - $68.40

Paris Beauty (Starting Balance - $68.40)

Bet Amount - 20 cents

15 - $4.64
9 - $6.34
6 - $13.00 (one retrigger)
64 - $2.59
167 - $2.88
88 - $5.34

*note to Rob...there was a $15 line win in there for five artist palettes, lol.

Total # of spins - 349
Wagered - $69.80
Ending Balance - $91.02

Totals For These Two Games

Total # of spins - 699
Amount Wagered - $139.80
Time Playing - 1 1/2 hours (roughly)

When I started again, I had a playthrough left of $240.20. I now have a playthrough left of $100.40, and a balance of $91.02. I have played through all the allowed games, so will have to go back and try either Mayan Queen, or Cleopatra again. But I'm pretty sure I'll come close to playthrough..whether there is anything left when I do, I guess we'll see.

I promise to also post in this thread, when I make a deposit and bust out quickly, because it does happen to me as well.

I know it's a major pain in the ass, but I would love to see anyone else add their playing experiences here as well. Even if they don't want to go through this bull...after a session, see if you can contact support at whichever casino you play at...and ask them for your "session stats". Starting balance (with or without bonus), # of spins, average bet size, your RTP, and whether you made playthrough or not, and cashed out or not. Could be interesting.

Anyway, will probably finish this up tonight one way or another...and will update when I'm done.

 

[all4greed]

Well, with all the uproar re: RTG, I decided to really track a whole session from start to finish...

Do you use autoplay and, if yes, the turbo feature?

Sometimes I think the turbo feature hits better things on some games. But I have no scientific proof or expertise in the matter!

 

[Pinababy69]

All Done....

Okay, final one. I met playthrough and cashed out $100. Had I been playing a different coupon, with more games available, I may have carried on tomorrow with it. But once I finally hit that $100 mark, I'd had enough.

Mayan Queen (Starting Balance - $91.02)
Playthrough Left - $100.40

Amount of Bet - 25 cents

14 - $15.80
104 - $8.50 (one retrigger)
143 - $4.80
156 - $4.00
150 - no feature, playthrough was met and had only about $64 left, so I upped my bet to 50 cents, hoping to hit enough to cashout.

Total # of spins - 567
Wagered - $141.75

Amount of Bet - 50 cents

23 - $12.00
25 - $21.00
89 - $9.60
20 - $5.40
63 - $10.80
94 - $11.90
63 - $58.40 ($97 balance now, so carried on and hit one spin which took me to $100.37..cashout time)

Total # of spins - 395
Wagered - $197.50
Playtime - 1 1/2 hours

Final Complete Stats

Total # of spins - 3128
Wagered - Approximately $800 (Playthrough was $560)
Playtime - 5 1/2 hours
Cashout - $100 from a $16 deposit

So, that's it. I don't think I will ever take one of these coupons again....besides Mayan Queen, I just don't normally play any of these games, and don't like being tied into 6 or so games only.

But I just hope that some people can see why I say that for me personally (JUST myself), I have no problem with RTG software. I usually always feel like I get a fair game. I could have easily busted tonight....was down to just over $30, when I hit the bonus round for $58. So it could have gone either way. And had I busted, I wouldn't have been upset.

All4greed...very seldom do I use autoplay, and I have never used the Turbo feature. I don't play that often, but when I do, I prefer to savour (for lack of a better word) it. And you can see by my play style, why I usually only play once a week, lol. I don't have the time to sit for four or five hours every day grinding out WR. But I do also play without bonuses, although I don't generally do as well without them. Again, I still think the more spins you allow yourself, the better your chance to get a decent hit. JMO.

Screenshot of cashout below...in case anyone thinks I'm bullshitting.

 

[all4greed]

...Screenshot of cashout below...in case anyone thinks I'm bullshitting.

Clearly fake. I recognize MS Paint when I see it. I can tell you are a master at it.:notworthy

jk of course...

 

[just play]

I knew you were going to cash out after your first post, I could feel it...lol.

I can't wait to do mine next week and show you the difference. I will bust out in about 15 or so minutes. But then again, I haven't cashed out at iNetBet in quite a while, so I will probably win. (not a chance...lol)

I wish at least 5 different people would take time and do this...it would be interesting to see the difference, or maybe there wouldn't be any difference?

 

[gloria460]

I'm going to play Inetbet this weekend and hopefully With so many complaints there will be a lot of participation.

I play quite a bit like Pina and after winning gradually increase my bets and lower them accordingly. I do have a habit of staying at a slot too long thinking it's eventually going to hit.

 

[just play]

Ok, my husband is laughing at me saying this kind of money will last me 10 minutes and is wondering how the hell you lasted so long and even got a cashout...

So, I am depositing $16 and taking the Macho Money coupon (don't like Reel Ladies games)

I'll be back in about 15-30 busted out.

 

[just play]

ok my husband gave me $16

iNetBet, deposit $16, took Macho Money coupon 75%

Start $28.00, playthrough $560.00


WARLOCKS SPELL ($0.20)

Hit $50 pretty quickly, got 5 cats in a row
136 no feature, left

wagered $27.20
End $65.13



SEA CAPTAIN (never played before $0.25)
start $65.13

42 (7 free spins, 15 extra spins awarded) $10.04
104 (7 free spins, 16 extra spins awarded) $4.93
74 more spins, left

wagered $55.00
end $55.00 lol, that's weird



GOLDBEARD $0.20

start $55.00

126 no feature, left

wagered $25.20
end $49.41



ACHILLES (don't think ever played $0.20)

start $49.41

12 (10 free spins, retrigger twice) $7.42
100 more spins, left

wagered $22.40
end $45.26



WARLOCKS SPELL

start $45.26

183 no feature, left

wagered $36.60
end $40.09



I have to go and eat, starving...lol....I have $393.60 left on playthrough, I have wagered $166.40... I checked my calculations and cashier calculations, both are same.

Be back later. Oh playtime was a bit over an hour.

 

[just play]

So this is how it normally is for me...the first post is VERY RARE.

Busted out in about 20 minutes or so.


I'll do it quick...

Aladdins wishes....start $40.09, 58 spins, nothing, left

Vickings Voyage....50 spins, nothing, left

Sea Captain...85 spins got 10 free spins altogether $2.78, 100 more spins nothing.

Spent rest on Warlocks Spell with nothing.


I had $12 less the first time and played much longer with more wins, right away....left and came back, I could feel the difference (I know no one likes that word "feel" but I could feel it was different than earlier)

I have the proof in me keeping track that my "feeling" was right.

Oh well.

 

[Pinababy69]

Hey Just Play, thank you so much for trying it out anyway, and for tracking your play. Sorry you didn't make it through. I read your first post, and was going to comment then...but was on my way out, and didn't have time. I really thought you were going to make it.

You play so many of the same games I do...I love Aladdin's Wishes and Warlock's Spell...and that Sea Captain can hit really well too. I think I played Aladdin maybe a week ago....one of the few bonus free deposits I've done. Can't remember if it was like $18 or $20...something like that. Never got over my starting balance, never hit a win over $2, never got a bonus round, lol. Go directly to jail, do not pass GO, do not collect $200!!

I love that game, but it can be brutal. I think it is the only game I have ever gone over 800 spins without hitting a bonus round. A sane person would have changed games after 300 or so spins..but I'm like Gloria. I can get stuck in a game, absolutely positive that the next bonus is just around the corner. I've really gotten alot better at that though.

Anyway, super busy day today....first chance I've really had to sit down. Gonna pour a small drink for myself, and play somewhere. I like the sounds of that Macho Money coupon...I like the games. Or I may try a bonus free deposit at Inet. Watch my money get hoovered, lol..that's what usually happens when I don't take a coupon.

Anyway, I'll update how I do, in general, at Inet. And thanks Gloria, for offering also to contribute to the thread. I really appreciate you guys doing it.

I am finally gonna try Bet365 tonight as well....been waiting ages to do that. Haven't played at Playtech in probably four years or more...but some of Simmo's YouTube videos have convinced me to give it a shot, lol.

 

[Pinababy69]

Flipside!!

What'd I tell ya? $20 deposit, no bonus. Went to Mystic Dragon, which I know is huge high variance, so fully expected to hit nothing, lol.

101 spins in got one bonus round, paid $14.64. Another 134 spins of nothing, no bonus and no win over maybe $1 or so. 25 cent spins. Ah well...c'est la vie. I could just as easily have hit a $200 bonus round. That's why I like those high variance games like Mystic and Paydirt...and some of the 3Dice games. Even with small bets...the potential is there.

Playtime...about 20 minutes.

On to Bet365!!

 

[just play]

I'm going to play Inetbet this weekend and hopefully With so many complaints there will be a lot of participation.

I play quite a bit like Pina and after winning gradually increase my bets and lower them accordingly. I do have a habit of staying at a slot too long thinking it's eventually going to hit.

I do too, but didn't want to today cuz I knew I would have to show my play....hehehehe, I didn't want to get yelled at.

Hey Just Play, thank you so much for trying it out anyway, and for tracking your play. Sorry you didn't make it through. I read your first post, and was going to comment then...but was on my way out, and didn't have time. I really thought you were going to make it.

Like I said somewhere, I always count my spins anyway. I really liked it, it was fun.... until I lost...hahaha, it was fun to play and show my play. It would have been cool to cash out. I wish a few others would try this out. Gloria are you going to also?

 

[Jasminebed]

Well, I took the 111% birthday bonus, but I deposited $14 to have a similar starting balance and playthrough

Starting balance: $29.54. Playthrough: $590.79.

It's late here, I'll update how it goes.

 

[Jasminebed]

Haunted Opera

Starting balance 29.54

20 cents:

8 spins...fs paid 2.31
15 spins...fs paid 5.83

40 cents
20 spins..

back to 20cents

OMG Pina, I know why you got 5 1/2 hours of play, lol. It was counting and recording all this!

116 spins...no feature. End Balance 25.14

Let the dog out to pee, so I chose Golden Retriever next, not one of my usual games.

20 cents

80 spins...no feature End balance $20.14

Loose caboose

25 cents

16 spins...feature paid $6.26
55 spins End Balance $15.17

Santa Strikes Back

25 cents

15 spins..rudolphs revenge bonus triggered $1.80
27 spins End Balance $10.08

I'm fading fast. I still have $510 in wagering to meet!

Mayan Queen

25 cents

30 spins End Balance 4.95

I'm going for broke...heading to Triple Twister @ 50 cents.

26 spins...Balance 34 cents

Last chance...Paydirt.

$490.45 left to wager

One spin @ 25 cents and one spin at 9 cents...busted!!!

Well, I didn't lose much money at least, and it lasted longer recording everything!

At least I understood the terms for this challenge!

 

[ksech]

I don't have an account at Inet, but here are my stats so far from Intertops Red (if this is what you are looking for)...
$50 deposit with a 100% bonus, $3000 playthrough...

Incan Goddess
spin 20 bonus round $10
spin 24 free spins $3.72
spin 86 free spins $$19.46 hit bonus round for another $40
100 spins @ .40 = $40
free spins $23.18
bonus rounds $69.46
spin 122 bonus $7.50
spin 138 free spins $8.16
spin 166 free spins $6.84
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00
free spins $15.00
bonus rounds $7.50
Balance: $141.78
Paradise dreams
spin 87 free spins $28.48
100 spins @ .40 = $40.00
free spins $28.48
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00

Balance: $132.83

Fruit frenzy
spin 27 free spins (15) $34.84
spin 45 free spins (10 with a retrigger for 15 spins) $98.06
100 spins @ .50 = $50.00
free spins $132.90
Balance: $237.17

Aladdins Wishes
100 spins @ .40 = $40.00
spin 168 line win $30.00
100 spins@ .60 = $60.00
Balance: $226.59

Paris Beauty
spin 52 line win $28.33
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00
Balance: $222.90

Enchanted Garden
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00
spin 103 free spins $44.55
50 spins @ .80 = $40.00
free spins $44.55
Balance: $ 207.65

Big Shot
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00
50 spins @ .80 = $40.00
Balance : 164.83

Loose Caboose
spin 61 free spins (9) $61.36
100 spins @ .50 = $50.00
free spins $61.36
Balance: $198.59

Caesar's Empire
spin 22 free spins $13.62
spin 97 free spins $14.22
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00
free spins $ 27.84
Balance: $206.54

Victory
100 spins@ .60 = $60.00
spin 120 free spins $36.80
50 spins @ .80 = $40.00
free spins $36.80
Balance: $197.19

Triple Twister
spin 226 free spins $4.45
250 spins @ .50 = $125.00
free spins $4.45
Balance: $143.33

Cleopatra's Gold
spin 62 free spins $11.36
100 spins @ .40 = $40.00
free spins $11.36
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00
50 spins @ .80 = $40.00
Balance: $88.04

Tally Ho
spin 5 free spins $12.42
spin 45 free spins $11.66
spin 84 free spins $8.72
spin 154 free spins ( 1 retrigger) $33.06
spin 63 free spins $12.72
100 spins @ .40= $40.00
free spins $32.80
100 spins @ .60 = $60.00
free spins $ 45.78
Balance: $115.64

I still have $1605 in playthrough, will post the rest of my results when I make playthrough/or bust out.

 

[Jasminebed]

@ksech

Is the Intertops bonus a cashable one? And thanks for sharing with us.

 

[ksech]

No, it's their Welcome bonus. I was told since I have never used it I was still eligible. I don't normally use bonuses of any type, but figured I'd give it a shot since I have time to try to beat the playthrough.

Intertops Red doesn't really have a lot of deposit bonuses (but that may be because I don't use them and they may email promos out). And since they are the only ones I can deposit at right now (unless I win ) my choices of where I play are non-existent.

/Derail/ Last week I had Intertops Red and Royal Joker close my accounts due to the fact I was becoming so frustrated with amount of playtime/deposit. It didn't matter if I deposited $20 or $50, my money was gone in a matter of minutes. I was playing every day, anywhere from $20 to $75, and my anger and frustration was getting out of control. I knew I couldn't just walk away for a day or two, because I was one of the stupid ones chasing the win. So, I took a few days off, rationalized my behavior to my own satisfaction, and have decided I will only allow myself to deposit once a week. I have to honestly say, the CS at both casinos have been very supportive of my decisions, have gone out of their way to accomodate me in every way and they are knowledgeable in everything I have ever asked. I have never received the "standard" answer most of the casinos have dished out. I realize, my case may be an isolated case, and I am sure not everyone will agree 100%, but this is just from what I have experienced with them.

We each have our own preferences to casinos/casino platforms, and what may be good for one person may not be good for the next. I can only give/share my experiences as they have affected me.

I wasn't sure if Pinababy wanted results from only InetBet, but thought it would be interesting to share my experience from another reputable RTG casino.

 

[Rusty]

I think the thread title is a little misleading Pina, if this is a "typical" RTG session you must be a very rich Woman.

But yeah in way of balance to negative threads it shows you personally got a fair game that/those particular session/s at that particular Casino.
That is fine but a thread that proves anomalous results however says much more if it shows the software is not what it claims to be.
That is the real issue, not whether some Casinos have fair RTP some of the time.

Anyway your thread has given me an idea.
I will PM you soon.