Questionable Behaviour from an Accredited Casino

[KasinoKing]

You're definitely not nitpicking.. that is complete CRAP! You can only withdraw your original deposit? What if you were lucky enough to bring your balance up to 3k? You're expected to wait 6 WEEKS to get it all??? Ummmm I don't think so! I am SO tired of casino's these days. How can they not see how ridiculous that is? I would love to know which casino, but I understand a name and shame is not a good idea at this point with max and Bryan involved. Good luck getting some answers and hopefully you can one day share which casino it is and that they've seen the light and changed their stupid, stupid ways.

Exactly what Jenn said!

So what is the problem? Just collect your money , and uninstall the casino...There are other casinos there to play at esp if you are not in USA.

The problem is we (players and affiliates in general) should not allow any casinos, let alone accredited ones, to get away with such blatantly unfair rules. There are already far too many player-unfriendly rules; should we just sit back and let casinos do anything they like? I think not.

If I find this is a casino I list on my sites I will be making it very clear to them that these withdrawal limits are simply unacceptable.
Hopefully it will be named soon.

KK

[Pinababy69]

Pretty sure this exact topic has come up before, and I'm "almost" positive it was the Vegas Tech Casinos ie. English Harbour, etc. This has been in place for quite a while I think...this absurd limit. IF I can find the thread later, I'll post a link.

[oldtrvlagt]

Just my two cents but this is the definition of "rogue". If the casino needs the "float" on your money for that long there is seriously something wrong It gives the appearance of a cashflow problem whether they have one or not and in this climate perception is everything.

[Nate]

Pretty sure this exact topic has come up before, and I'm "almost" positive it was the Vegas Tech Casinos ie. English Harbour, etc. This has been in place for quite a while I think...this absurd limit. IF I can find the thread later, I'll post a link.

Pinababy69... Hmmm; quite the 'Detective' aren't we? lol... Thanks and to clear the Air you are quite correct in pointing this out!!

I have consulted with Maxd and since this is not a PAB, I would like to reveal that the Casino in question is VIPSlots.

Apart from the 'Absurd Limits' imposed by this Casino on withdrawals, they have the nerve to negotiate higher withdrawal limits with higher deposits - something they should be offering as a reputable casino to begin with.

Anyways, I am still awaiting feedback from Bryan or Max which im sure they will post here...

Nate

[gambblex]

I recall the thread almost exactly like this one. Starring JHV,VWM and others

[jelsmith]

I had assumed it was VT also...I play there very rarely but I always see winners of 16k 8k etc scrolling across the top.....I cant imagine waiting that long to be paid out.

[vinylweatherman]

Pinababy69... Hmmm; quite the 'Detective' aren't we? lol... Thanks and to clear the Air you are quite correct in pointing this out!!

I have consulted with Maxd and since this is not a PAB, I would like to reveal that the Casino in question is VIPSlots.

Apart from the 'Absurd Limits' imposed by this Casino on withdrawals, they have the nerve to negotiate higher withdrawal limits with higher deposits - something they should be offering as a reputable casino to begin with.

Anyways, I am still awaiting feedback from Bryan or Max which im sure they will post here...

Nate

How does this help players to GAMBLE RESPONSIBLY. If someone is depositing $500 at a time, they may NOT want to suddenly double the risk to $1000 at a time. The limit of $500 for a player depositing $500 gives them NO opportunity to win & get paid in reasonable time from their deposit, and often what happens is that players play back their winnings because they are having to wait a week before they can request even the first chunk of winnings from a $500 deposit.

Moneybookers should be pretty safe compared with other ewallet solutions, and should be on a par with wire transfer. From the PLAYERS' point of view, ewallets add a layer between their bank accounts and the casino, whereas wire transfer gives the casino direct access to their bank details. This is one of the advertised safety benefits of using an ewallet compared to directly using bank transfers or cards with casinos.

Moneybookers are hardly going to screw the casino, UNLIKE many of the US facing processors have done in the past.

These rules seem aimed at keeping hold of money for as long as possible, earning interest for the casino on money that does not even belong to it. Banks are known to like the 3/4 day clearing period just BECAUSE it allows them to earn 3 days interest on money it is "clearing" through it's systems.

This limit is TEN TIMES WORSE than limits experienced with RTG casinos. I once had to wait 3 weeks to get all my winnings from Club World because of it's $3000 per week limit. This would have been SEVEN MONTHS of waiting were I to have had a similar session at VIPSlots!

To me, this is one accredited group I would steer well clear of because of these silly limits.

Maybe they DON'T want "medium rollers" to play there with only a few hundred dollars at a time, yet "low rollers" who deposit $25 at a time & play 20c spins are unlikely to be seriously inconvenienced by a limit that allows them to win up to 20x their deposit before hitting the weekly limit.

High Rollers seem to be able to negotiate their limits, yet it seems they have to deposit in large chunks, rather than a certain amount overall.

[X-Raided]

This is very selfish on VIPSlots part.

If I were in the casino's shoes, I would have recognized and interpeted
Nate's questions asked as being a "high roller" heavy depositor and
did whatever it takes to earn his business. I would of certainly not tried
to negotiate higher deposits for higher withdraws and turned the player off from ever depositing again.

Very bad business management on their part IMO.

The same mismanaged business management that will sink a casino
in the future.

[rockycatt]

It's not about that... it's about forcing customers to Deposit more in order for their advertised (On CM) withdrawal limits to be increased.

Its about unethical behaviour and conduct not befitting for a CM accredited Casino.

Its about being able to increase the WD Limits ONLY if the customer deposits more...

Remember CM can't Police individual Casinos and rely on them to stick to the accreditation rules. This is why we have a Forum and why we are free to discuss issues.

Other persons using this portal may be subject to the same tactics and if it is not highlighted, the reputability of this portal soon dissolves.

they advertise 5,000.00 wd a week on C M acredited list

Vegas Technology
Formerly known as OddsOn Gaming Inc., Vegas Technology Inc., provides gaming software and customized turnkey solutions for online casinos mostly licensed in Antigua and Barbuda and the Netherland Antilles.

Several years ago there was incident where the wrong file was uploaded during a software upgrade. This caused the doubling up on Video Poker to malfunction in the casino's favor. When the error was spotted, the software provider took specific actions to include paying back all losses to players, and setting up safeguards so that this would never happen again. These casinos took a three year break from the site before coming back on.


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[vinylweatherman]

they advertise 5,000.00 wd a week on C M acredited list

Vegas Technology
Formerly known as OddsOn Gaming Inc., Vegas Technology Inc., provides gaming software and customized turnkey solutions for online casinos mostly licensed in Antigua and Barbuda and the Netherland Antilles.

Several years ago there was incident where the wrong file was uploaded during a software upgrade. This caused the doubling up on Video Poker to malfunction in the casino's favor. When the error was spotted, the software provider took specific actions to include paying back all losses to players, and setting up safeguards so that this would never happen again. These casinos took a three year break from the site before coming back on.


Casino Groups UK White Listed Publicly Traded US Accepted 3rd Party Audit Poker Live Games Withdrawal Limitations² Special Notes Casinomeister Promo ¹
English Harbour Group
Caribbean Gold RNG/Software $5,000 per week


English Harbour RNG/Software $5,000 per week


Millionaire Casino RNG/Software $5,000 per week


Silver Dollar Casino RNG/Software $5,000 per week


Slots Galore RNG/Software $5,000 per week


Super Slots RNG/Software $5,000 per week


VIP Slots RNG/Software $5,000 per week

This is the "Ryanair trick" much lambasted by the financial press. Ryanair advertise very cheap fares, but add a £5 supplement per person, per leg, for payment by card on it's ONLINE booking service. How ELSE does one pay for an ONLINE booking, cash

To get around advertising rules, Ryanair waived this £5 charge for the most OBSCURE card it could, the useless Electron card, accepted pretty much nowhere on the high street, unlike "normal" credit and debit cards.

When Electron became more popular, Ryanair ITSELF decided that the banks were phasing out Electron, and swapped over to waiving the charge on a new, and equally obscure, card option. Fortunately for us, this obscure card is the Neteller NET+ card (& it's "sister" products).

VIPSlots are using a similar trick, the $5000 limit IS available, but ONLY on two less popular methods of deposit & withdrawal, with the more popular ones either being unavailable, or subject to this $500 limit.

Unless UseMyWallet and Wire Transfer are methods used by the MAJORITY of players, it is unethical (even illegal here in the UK) to state that the "normal" or "headline" limit is $5000 per week.

Since CM is in charge of what is listed under the accredited section, the simplest solution would be to amend it to reflect that the NORMAL limit for withdrawals is $500 per week, with higher limits being the exception for 2 less popular deposit methods, and when negotiated on an individual basis by players & their VIP hosts.

Before the casino retorts by saying that the OP could "always have chosen Wire Transfer to benefit from the $5000 limit", remember that he DID ask about this, but the casino said NO!

..........So i continued the conversation and asked if they refunded CC's as that was my only other Deposit option - The answer came as NO. So i queried if i deposited via MB, could i then request an alternate withdraw method and they repleid that I could ONLY Wd via MB. ........

Since they support neither Neteller nor Credit cards (for withdrawal), there is no chance of ME playing there in any case, they would struggle to pay me any winnings.