Has Rushmore Been Rogued?

[Zodiac]

Hi folks,

i have a notice that i haven't posted on forum in several weeks

That's right, because i haven't had much time and i know that i have surely missed something.

Now it's time to ask one thing.

Sorry, if this is the wrong thread or it's already posted then please change it.

It's a question to Louise and Rushmore.


Dear Louise,

can you explain to me why it's not more allowed depositing with Neteller in regarding claiming the weekend bonuses ?


Regards

Zodiac

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by Zodiac

Hi folks,

i have a notice that i haven't posted on forum in several weeks

That's right, because i haven't had much time and i know that i have surely missed something.

Now it's time to ask one thing.

Sorry, if this is the wrong thread or it's already posted then please change it.

It's a question to Louise and Rushmore.


Dear Louise,

can you explain to me why it's not more allowed depositing with Neteller in regarding claiming the weekend bonuses ?


Regards

Zodiac

She answered this here
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post326426

[Zodiac]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

She answered this here
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post326426

Oops, i thought that has already posted but haven't enough time to search.

So, thank you Bryan for the information.

Very bad not allowing to deposit with Neteller.

Since this has changed i haven't deposited more at Rushmore Group.

[Louise]

Originally Posted by Zodiac

Oops, i thought that has already posted but haven't enough time to search.

So, thank you Bryan for the information.

Very bad not allowing to deposit with Neteller.

Since this has changed i haven't deposited more at Rushmore Group.

Hi Zodiac,

I'm sorry that you have been affected by this. As you are aware, welcome and weekend bonuses can not not be redeemed on Neteller or Moneybookers deposits. Weekly bonuses are still however redeemable when using these deposit methods.

Kind regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

[Zodiac]

I know that this isn't the right thread to post about but only still this comment

Hey Louise,

how should i recommend this to the european players ?

Should i promote and only saying that Click2Pay or credit card is available ?

For europeans are Neteller and Moneybookers most important deposit methods.

I know that's not your decision but i believe this is not good and you should tell it to the owners.

You have C2Pay as method why not thinking also about click$buy as
method ?

I never heard before that this is happened on a casino.

Regards

Zodiac

[Louise]

Originally Posted by Zodiac

I know that this isn't the right thread to post about but only still this comment

Hey Louise,

how should i recommend this to the european players ?

Should i promote and only saying that Click2Pay or credit card is available ?

For europeans are Neteller and Moneybookers most important deposit methods.

I know that's not your decision but i believe this is not good and you should tell it to the owners.

You have C2Pay as method why not thinking also about click$buy as
method ?

I never heard before that this is happened on a casino.

Regards

Zodiac

Hi Zodiac,

For now, this is the situation and decision made by the marketing department. If there are any changes, then I'll make sure to post. European players are welcome to use their credit cards instead in order to claim the welcome bonuses and weekend bonuses, or can use their Neteller/Moneybookers account to deposit and redeem the bonuses during the week.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

[Casinomeister]

Just a quick announcement that Rushmore is back on board. I spoke with the operator today, and we have a clear means of communication now.

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Just a quick announcement that Rushmore is back on board. I spoke with the operator today, and we have a clear means of communication now.

You didn't before when they were listed??

Also, did they give you any good reason for the many delayed payments over the previous months? I'm hoping you touched on that issue with them if you are re-listing them as "Accredited".
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[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by RobWin

You didn't before when they were listed??

Also, did they give you any good reason for the many delayed payments over the previous months? I'm hoping you touched on that issue with them if you are re-listing them as "Accredited".
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Of course I had a means of commo before. It's just that during the last couple of issues, there wasn't the normal amount of communications going on; I wasn't getting the answers that I needed from the operator, and this is the main reason I didn't bring them back on after Elscrabinda was paid.

The operator took the blame for the delayed payments - he had some personal family issues that took most of his time away from the business. He's back in the saddle now, so we're good to go.

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Just a quick announcement that Rushmore is back on board. I spoke with the operator today, and we have a clear means of communication now.

Since you now have communication, could you ask what is the "big deal" over Neteller and Moneybookers deposits, yet this is no kind of "deal" at all if these SAME players simply switch over to credit cards, or even Click2Pay.

Neteller and Moneybookers are both REGULATED by the FSA, even if more lightly than the banks, they should be viewed as trustworthy. Quicktender, on the other hand, is rather secretive, being available to US players as a means to get around UIGEA provisions regarding processing of transactions, they are certainly NOT regulated by any trusted jurisdiction that I know of, and are going to "duck & dive" to stay one step ahead of any authority seeking to shut them down as gambling processors.

Credit Cards are VERY prone to fraud, and this brings with it the risk of chargebacks to merchants. The worst fraud is where someone takes credit out in someone else's name by stealing their identity. It can take long enough for this to come to light that any funds used in a casino could get through all the stages of processing, and the cheque cashed. Even stolen cards or details can lead to the scammers getting the money through the system before the rightful card holder discovers something has been going on.

Players themselves can even initiate a chargeback simply because they didn't like the result, and get this past the credit card companies. Neteller and Moneybookers would NOT permit this.

Do the operators of Rushmore REALLY intend this move as a way to encourage players to use cards instead of eWallets, or is there something else going on.

I find that using cards is more problematic that using Neteller, especially so where it is at a casino where I have ONLY used Neteller beforehand. Using cards where the casino currency is not the UK Pound also presents a problem, the fees are HIGHER than those chanrged by Neteller, and I believe Moneybookers fees are also lower than charged by card companies.

If operators believe cards are more secure than eWallets, this is because here in the UK at least, responsibility has passed to the banks from the police, and banks would rather sweep the problem aside, rather than have it form part of "official figures"; hence a wrong impression that cards are MUCH less prone to fraud than a while ago.

In fact, ONLINE fraud has increased DRAMATICALLY, because chip & pin has made it much harder to operate "card present" frauds. Casinos make a damn good target for this, since the money can be retrieved, and usually NOT back to the card from whence it came, but by cheque.

This is another case of Rushmore failing to give a proper answer. The marketing team made a decision, but there MUST be a reason behind it, and asking the simple question "Why?" should be pretty straight forward.

Once we know the thinking, players can decide whether they are prepared to switch deposit methods, or casino.