Virtual = Acerevenue

[Roanan]

In my thread last night I was able to link WinAsDealer to BeTheDealer so I got to wondering what I could find out about any possible relationship between The Virtual Casino Group and Acerevenue/Crystal Palace.


I found enough:


A WhoIs of TheVirtualCasino.com shows:

DOMAIN: THEVIRTUALCASINO.COM

RSP: Domain Directors Pty. Ltd.
URL: http://www.instra.com/

created-date: 2002-06-20 18:46:16
updated-date: 2010-02-11 10:03:23
registration-expiration-date: 2015-06-20 18:46:16

owner-organization:
owner-name: navtej kohli
owner-street: 7p7 officentro la sabana san jose
owner-city: san jose
owner-state: san jose
owner-zip: 10000
owner-country: CR

There's our good friend Tej with a street address attached.


In addition, there another name that pops up. Etta James

Etta James
7p7 officentro la sabana
san jose
1000
CR
support@123bingoonline.com
1877-234-9283 (USA)
0808-238-0023 (UK)
www.123bingoonline.com



And now.....




drum roll please...




The PRGroup shows the following for Acerevenue:

Phone: 1-888-731-2427
Email: press@acerevenue.com
Website: www.acerevenue.com
Address: Officentro La sabana
Edificio7. Piso7
San Jose, san Jose 1000
Costa Rica

[deucebag]

The fact that they rent office space in the same building doesn't really prove much. PartyGaming, 888 and Ladbrokes (among others) are in the same building in Gibraltar, for example.

[jetset]

Nevetheless, Roanan is on the right track - it is known that Virtual took over the Crystal Palace brands (and rebranded them) when Warren Cloud snuffed it.

Etta James is an interesting name and a familiar one - it also belongs to a famous American blues singer!

From Google on the online gambling Etta James:

Casino Slots Games Reviewer - Online Casino Industry at Cirrus Casino
Gambling & Casinos | United States
Current:Casino Slots Games Reviewer - Online Casino Industry at Cirrus Casino, Online Slots Games Analyst at Cirrus Casino
Education:Citrus College

[Casinomeister]

The bottom line is that Virtual and the Ace Revenue casinos use the same support, but they differ in brands and marketing. Gambling Wages for the Virtual group, Ace Revenue for the ex-Warren Cloud casinos.

So they differ in marketing and branding only. This is pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought).

[Roanan]

The fact that they rent office space in the same building doesn't really prove much. PartyGaming, 888 and Ladbrokes (among others) are in the same building in Gibraltar, for example.

The bottom line is that Virtual and the Ace Revenue casinos use the same support, but they differ in brands and marketing. Gambling Wages for the Virtual group, Ace Revenue for the ex-Warren Cloud casinos.

So they differ in marketing and branding only. This is pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought).

Okay...

Still digging and I'm finding more:


Working with the address and variations thereof,

Officentro La sabana (The Savannah)
Edificio7, Piso7 (Building 7, Floor 7)
San Jose


I have found another company that is located there.
www.silverarrowmarketing.com

(Isn't SilverArrow associated with Gambling Wages?)

The trace of the IP address shows it also belonging to mail.prismcasino.com

On gpwa.org there's a post from the BET365 affiliate manager, Simon Eaton praising them and announcing job opportunities.

The IP address of silverarrowmarketing is also shared by icronex.com

Icronex lists as it's clients:
* Netsurfmedia
* Silver Arrow Marketing

and is located in Canada:

Icronex Media Ltd.
1300-1500, W Georgia Street
Vancouver BC, Canada V6G 2Z6
Tel: +1-604-689-9977
1-877-689-9977 (Toll free)
Fax: +1-866-728-5044

Also located at this address is:

Ace Revenue
Jessy Robins
1-877-689-9977
press@acerevenue.com
www.acerevenue.com
1300-1500, W Georgia Street
Vancouver BC, Canada V6G 2Z6


NetSurfMedia seems familiar to me yet I don't know why.

They are an England-based firm, and have a post on CM about it linking them to 'known rogue RTG casinos' and a trace of them confirms this.

It's registered to SilverArrow and the IP address is shared by mail.casinosupportcenter.com

casinosupportcenter.com is, of course, the domain server for The Virtual Group




....phew....I need a break....back with more soon, but there's a nice tangled web here so far

[Roanan]

Now I know why Netsurf seemed familiar

They are listed as the owner of 123bingoonline and BingoKnights among others

The phone number for 123bingoonline and BingoKnights is shared with SlotsOfVegas


More connections among all these companies showing that this really is just one.

[Roanan]

Doing all my traces and IP searches, one in particular has popped up:

69.72.144.130


This one IP address is shared by:

help4casino.com (redirects to prism)
mail.betroyalmarketing.com
mail.netsurfmedia.com
mail.prismpromos.com
ns1.123bingo.com
ns3.help4casino.com
pobox.prismaffiliate.com
mail.silverarrowmarketing.com


So this continues to directly tie TheVirtualGroup to Acerevenue


This also means that there are number of casinos that are involved with this company whether they realize it or not, including accredited casino Bet365, because they use Silver Arrow, but I've clearly shown that it's part of The Virtual Group

[GGW Laurie]

Doing all my traces and IP searches, one in particular has popped up:

69.72.144.130


This one IP address is shared by:

help4casino.com (redirects to prism)
mail.betroyalmarketing.com
mail.netsurfmedia.com
mail.prismpromos.com
ns1.123bingo.com
ns3.help4casino.com
pobox.prismaffiliate.com
mail.silverarrowmarketing.com


So this continues to directly tie TheVirtualGroup to Acerevenue


This also means that there are number of casinos that are involved with this company whether they realize it or not, including accredited casino Bet365, because they use Silver Arrow, but I've clearly shown that it's part of The Virtual Group

Damn good detective work on your part

[Roanan]

Okay, to sum up what we have so far:

There's an address in Costa Rica shared by:

The Virtual Casino Group (Prism, Cirrus, CoolCat, etc.)
Netsurf owned sites (123Bingo, BingoKnights)
Acerevenue

There's an address in Vancouver shared by:
Icronex Media Ltd.
AceRevenue

Icronex lists it's clients as:
Netsurfmedia
Silver Arrow Marketing

So Icronex works for The Virtual Group and shares space with AceRevenue.

Netsurf Media IS The Virtual Casino Group and is demonstrated by the telephone number for 123Bingo and BingoKnights also being the number for SlotsOfVegas

SilverArrow owns Gambling Wages (who market Virtual casinos) and is directly tied to companies that are tied to Acerevenue.

Silver Arrow is used by other casinos including ACCREDITED casino Bet365.

[Dangerous53]

Ace Revenue, a fast growing Casino Affiliate Program, made their first public appearance during the gambling conference hosted in Budapest over the weekend of September 11th-13th, 2009. In addition to establishing themselves as major players in the online casino affiliate market, Ace Revenue was able to sign on some of the biggest names in the business as new partners and has created some high expectations for this new program in the months and years to come.

From a PR found here: http://www.pr.com/press-release/182027

Icronex also is listed in India:

India
Icronex Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
122, Vipul Agora, M.G. Road
Gurgaon, India 122 002
Board: +91-124-466 39 00
HR: +91-124-466 39 04
Fax: +91-124-466 39 07