Resolved King Solomons: loss after loss!

[praytech]

Wow...

Not long after my bonus issue was resolved (previous post) I deposited again and again and again (over $8,000 in total in a month) and no wins!

I asked for my payout ratio and was told 86%, and that was before my losing streak! I calculated it at around 75%. That's pretty bad, and after $8k in deposits, you would think at some stage a win would be imminent, but no.

They shower you with bonuses (I was gold vip) and give you incentives to play, but at the end of the day, if you keep losing, it's pointless!

I have actually never come across a casino where the odds are so stacked against a player.

I will elaborate further, and provide evidence of the ratios and ongoing deceptive conduct soon.

[praytech]

Originally Posted by sweiger

After depositing $300 to $500 + Month after Month for the past 12 months +, and getting 70% bonuses, I have not been able to withdraw ONE FUCKING CENT from this SCAM of a casino!!!!
I have been playing $1 - $5 per spin.
I am really SO pissed off, ...It just can't be true.. but IT IS!
For me: IT JUST IS NOT POSSIBLE TO WIN ANYTHING at this SWINDLING place!
One week ago, I requested transaction details for 2006-2007 ... NO answer.
So King Solomons do not want to provide me with the evidence.

You have to take me on my word: KING SOLOMONS is a GENUINE SCAM.
Today I deposited another $100, $70 bonus, FIVE (5) features (!!!) at Caesar's Empire, not ONE of them more than $60. Suffice to say, I lost all ..AGAIN!

I am DONE with this!!

Me too! i did $8k in one month, just loss after loss! payout ratio under 75%... it's just a horrendous casino to play at! Avoid at all costs!

[praytech]

Originally Posted by lots0

The folks that work at KS are some of the most honest in the business, especially Greg. The WagerJunction group is as honest as they come and as far as I know they have never ever welshed on a bet. As a matter of fact KS just paid out a whopping €330,000 ($514,094.10 USD, as of today) to a player that only deposited €120.

That said, The owners of KS made a HUGE mistake (in my opinion) by moving platforms from RTG to Playtech. Not only was this change over a very bad decision, but the transition from RTG to Playtech was badly botched (again my opinion) and the change over became about as confusing as things like that can get... and that is very confusing indeed.

The migration of KS player accounts and affiliate accounts from RTG to Playtech was, again my opinion, terribly mishandled.

But honest mistakes and bad decisions, in this case, are not in my opinion Roguish behavior. KS may have screwed up on occasion, but I for one want to play at a casino you KNOW will payoff when you hit the big one.

I disagree, and I have the proof! Their payout ratio is the lowest online, at under 85%, and their independent audit is a joke! I will be posting a major expose on King Solomons in the coming days, along with some chat sessions that just makes the mind boggle!

[praytech]

Originally Posted by GaryWatson

please do not open account for me.

I also dont appreciate being sent a username and password via snail mail

A sign of a desperate casino... and having just lost $8k in a month with a payout ratio of 85%, i can see why! IF you get an offer from these guys, run a mile... you've just been tagged for a scam!

[praytech]

Hmm.... $8k in one month, not a win in sight, and a payout ratio under 85%.... I really picked a dud with King Solomons...

oh well, you live and learn.. i'll know to avoid them like the plague in future!

[maxd]

Attn: praytech.

As you will see I've gathered your posts from the three other threads you posted in. In no case do I see that you were contributing to the original topic. You're obviously on about your own thing and that's why your own thread is appropriate.

When you post unrelated material in other people's threads it is called "hijacking" and it's not a good practice.

Furthermore please don't post the same thing in various threads. That's called "cross-posting" and that's not good practice either.

So: your topic = your thread & one topic = one thread. Okay? Thank you.

[praytech]

Originally Posted by maxd

Attn: praytech.

As you will see I've gathered your posts from the three other threads you posted in. In no case do I see that you were contributing to the original topic. You're obviously on about your own thing and that's why your own thread is appropriate.

When you post unrelated material in other people's threads it is called "hijacking" and it's not a good practice.

Furthermore please don't post the same thing in various threads. That's called "cross-posting" and that's not good practice either.

So: your topic = your thread & one topic = one thread. Okay? Thank you.

I disagree with that in part... in fact, the following was HIGHLY RELEVANT to the previous post, so I don't quite know what to say, other than I believe that I contributed my experience to that post correctly.

King Solomons: loss after loss!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweiger
After depositing $300 to $500 + Month after Month for the past 12 months +, and getting 70% bonuses, I have not been able to withdraw ONE FUCKING CENT from this SCAM of a casino!!!!
I have been playing $1 - $5 per spin.
I am really SO pissed off, ...It just can't be true.. but IT IS!
For me: IT JUST IS NOT POSSIBLE TO WIN ANYTHING at this SWINDLING place!
One week ago, I requested transaction details for 2006-2007 ... NO answer.
So King Solomons do not want to provide me with the evidence.

You have to take me on my word: KING SOLOMONS is a GENUINE SCAM.
Today I deposited another $100, $70 bonus, FIVE (5) features (!!!) at Caesar's Empire, not ONE of them more than $60. Suffice to say, I lost all ..AGAIN!

I am DONE with this!!

Me too! i did $8k in one month, just loss after loss! payout ratio under 75%... it's just a horrendous casino to play at! Avoid at all costs!

[maxd]

Well, I hope for your sake that "disagree in part" translates into "agree in principle and will comply" because what you did was bad, BAD forum etiquette and would normally be more than enough to get you booted off.

Given that you splattered your complaint across every dusty old KS thread you could find -- at least four different threads I believe -- not to mention posting your own, twice!, with exactly the same content I'd say that actually hitting a thread that was somewhat related was more accident than purpose.

Just so we're clear here: don't hijack and don't cross-post, please and thank you.

[praytech]

well, re-instate my previous thread then!

i had a thread called roguish King Solomons- casino to avoid, but someone deleted it!

Is my experience, even though i spend probably ten times more per month than most people here, suddenly lessened?

the fact remains that if you had wanted me to have my own thread, then the thread that i actually started, relating to non-bonus issues, would have remained there.

instead, you chose to delete that thread, which is of itself quite concerning, as if casinomeister could not live down criticism of king solomons casino...

[praytech]

Here is my post again, as it was deleted under odd circumstances:

I have spent to date $8,000 in one month at King Solomons. Despite getting many bonuses (72%), I just could not win! I asked a chat rep for my payout ratio, and was informed it was 86%... this is at a casino that claims all player payout ratios are 97%!

So, I looked over how much I have wagered in total, my deposits, my bonuses, and how many spins actually won (i kept my own stats for the last week), and I came out with a figure closer to 75%!!!!

The chat reps will always come up with offers to keep you depositing, but I just got to a point where i thought, this is $8k of my money that these guys are just keeping! And they always say the same thing - you'll get lucky soon! Yeah right.

I have to tell you, if you are a high stakes player ($1000 per month and up) do NOT play at King Solomons! You can have a look at some of the older threads which say the same thing. Make up your own mind, but be forewarned, MY experience with $8k of deposits is that you cannot win.

I would dearly love to see their true payout ratio... I think it would shock everyone who plays there.

Here is the chat transcript:

{Lyndon} the Payout Ratio is 97%
{player} mine is NOT 97% is it
{player} mine is closer to 79%
{Lyndon} the payout is standard for all the players
{Lyndon} including you as well
{Lyndon} as the system cannot determine
{Lyndon} who is who
{player} i have a chat session where the agent told me my ratio is a lot lower
{Lyndon} or else, it would be a very very intelligent system
{Lyndon} no
{Lyndon} impossible
{player} at that time, before my losing streak, my ratio was 86%
{player} would you like to see the chat session?
{Lyndon} this is what you have calculated
{player} i keep them all
{Lyndon} I know
{Lyndon}
{player} no, this is the amount i was told by a chat agent
{player} 86% BEFORE my losing streak
{Lyndon} anyway, I will need to leave now
{player} I have calculated it is a LOT lower than that
{player} around 75-80%
{Lyndon} because, I will not be in a position to provide you with anymore answers
{player} i have proof that you cannot modify, in the previous chat session
{Lyndon} in regards to your questions
{player} how can you argue with that?
{Lyndon} what do you mean by modify?
{player} you cannot alter the chat sessions, therefore it stands as proof
{Lyndon} this is correct
{Lyndon} and this was told to you by one of my colleagues
{player} okay, well as i said, the agent told me 86%
{Lyndon} I have seen this chat
{player} really, well who was i talking to ?
{player} on what day?
{Lyndon} I do not have to give you any proofs
{Lyndon} I do not loe
{Lyndon} lie, I mean
{Lyndon} sorry
{player} that's what i thought.... anyway, i have the chat session showing my payout ratio as 86%, i have evidence of my deposits, and as far as i am concerned, there is a legitimate cause for concern
{Lyndon} and what I say is based on facts
{player} it's based on ks information
{player} not fact
{player} fact is indisputable
{player} i am disputing it
{Lyndon} so player, I am sorry , but I will need to leave now
{Lyndon} so like I told you
{Lyndon} I will refer the situation to our casino mananger
{Lyndon} Casino Manager, sorry
{Lyndon} and we will get back to you accordingly