Grand Duke casino stole money from me!!!

[Nifty29]

Grand duke need to be rogued right now. Disgraceful.

[De Beuker]

Grand duke need to be rogued right now. Disgraceful.

Second that.
Thats the most insane term I've ever seen.

It gives them the right to confiscate almost every withdrawl, as winnings almost always come from one huge hit, especially on Playtechs high variance slots.

Stay as far away as possible from this outfit, jeez..

[LaHutti]

Grand duke need to be rogued right now. Disgraceful.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

[same_old]

Well I got my calculator ready to go and add up that I'm not going over the 50% threshold on each game.

You would want to be OK at Maths for this shit I can tell ya!!

Casino's like this one don't stick around to long anyway- who in there right mind would even bother depositing there with terms like that.

[Przecinek]

As all other posters have said, this terms is crazy and has got nothing to do with bonuses.

The more you win, the more likely it is you'll break 50% max win rule, and get you're winnings confiscated.
Amazing this casino is licenced with such t&c in place.

[maxd]

@JoeyBB74: Hi, I'm Max. I manage the Pitch-A-Bitch service mentioned earlier. The info KK gave you on this pretty much sums it up. As it happens I have a few other Grand Duke issues I'm dealing with at the moment so your PAB would be welcome and timely. Please do read the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ if you're thinking of going this route, and I look forward to seeing your PAB.

One of Grand Duke's bonus terms is:

In order to be eligible for withdrawal, you must have winnings from multiple games, in which winnings from any single game cannot exceed 50% of the total amount of the withdrawal request.

Good catch!

I took a quick look through their bonus terms, didn't see where this was posted. Do you have a link to this?

[vinylweatherman]

Good catch!

I took a quick look through their bonus terms, didn't see where this was posted. Do you have a link to this?

You looked, didn't find it, yet they expect mere PLAYERS to both find and understand this term, and not break it. It is clearly well "buried", and regardless of the structure, the term is rogue simply because it is so well hidden that even you can't find it when doing what players should always do, read the terms before they play.

Perhaps they have sneaked it into the general terms, and kept it out of sight of players who read only the bonus terms when they claim a bonus.

[maxd]

Perhaps they have sneaked it into the general terms ....

Looked there too, albeit quickly, no joy.

[vinylweatherman]

Irregular Gaming
Your use of any real money bonuses is subject to Our review for irregular playing patterns. To ensure fair gaming and the proper use of bonuses, We consider low margin betting, equal betting, zero risk bets or hedge betting to be irregular gaming when deployed to exploit bonuses. Further examples of irregular playing patterns also include, but are not limited to: (i) placing single or multiple bets of a value of fifty percent or more of the bonus on any single game, individual hand, or round, building a balance and significantly changing play patterns (bet size, game types, bet structures etc) in order to meet the bonus release requirement; (ii) placing large bets which result in a substantial gain followed by a drop in bet size equal to or more than seventy five percent of the previous average bet size until the bonus release requirements have been met (iii) Wagering based on one specific slot machine, in order to significantly increase a bankroll, in relevance to the initial betting amount, and then switching to another game or request a withdrawal. (iv) if We have good grounds to suspect that you have sought only to exploit a bonus offered by Us in good faith to enhance your entertainment (for example, on acceptance of a bonus, the minimum wagering requirement is met and funds are subsequently withdrawn).
The Casino reserves the right to decide in its sole discretion which activities constitute "irregular play" for Bonus Play through Requirement purposes from time-to-time and to withhold any withdrawals where irregular play has occurred to meet Bonus Play through Requirements. In order to be eligible for withdrawal, you must have winnings from multiple games, in which winnings from any single game cannot exceed 50% of the total amount of the withdrawal request.

It's in here, under "Irregular Gaming".

Yes, EXACTLY like this, a "word soup" with no paragraphs, bullet points, etc, and part of a long list of expanadable terms that would require a hell of a lot of patience to get through without getting a headache from the layout.

To make it clearer:-

Your use of any real money bonuses is subject to Our review for irregular playing patterns. To ensure fair gaming and the proper use of bonuses, We consider low margin betting, equal betting, zero risk bets or hedge betting to be irregular gaming when deployed to exploit bonuses.

Further examples of irregular playing patterns also include, but are not limited to:

(i) placing single or multiple bets of a value of fifty percent or more of the bonus on any single game, individual hand, or round, building a balance and significantly changing play patterns (bet size, game types, bet structures etc) in order to meet the bonus release requirement.

(ii) placing large bets which result in a substantial gain followed by a drop in bet size equal to or more than seventy five percent of the previous average bet size until the bonus release requirements have been met.

(iii) Wagering based on one specific slot machine, in order to significantly increase a bankroll, in relevance to the initial betting amount, and then switching to another game or request a withdrawal.

(iv) if We have good grounds to suspect that you have sought only to exploit a bonus offered by Us in good faith to enhance your entertainment (for example, on acceptance of a bonus, the minimum wagering requirement is met and funds are subsequently withdrawn).

The Casino reserves the right to decide in its sole discretion which activities constitute "irregular play" for Bonus Play through Requirement purposes from time-to-time and to withhold any withdrawals where irregular play has occurred to meet Bonus Play through Requirements. In order to be eligible for withdrawal, you must have winnings from multiple games, in which winnings from any single game cannot exceed 50% of the total amount of the withdrawal request.

Sorry Max, your winnings are confiscated, you should have read the terms, they are quite clearly displayed on the website

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[Nifty29]

Vinyl, I refuse to read your posts when they are that short.

Lift your game sunshine.