mileamihai VS casino rewards/zodiac casino

[mileamihai]

casino rewards and zodiac casino stole my winnings!

Hello.i have an account with zodiac casino. i have deposited 1$,received a 20$ bonus, made the playthrough and the withdrawed 400$.everything was ok until i ve requested a withdrawall.two days after i requested the withdrawall, when i was waiting for my money, the told me that my account is blocked!

But i didn't broke the T&CS. I have requested the bonus from my personal computer!not from another computer.so, the bonus was claimed from one person and from one computer/ip.after i have wagered the required amount for the bonus and all the money in my account were withdrawable,
i have played from another computer (workplace- where it can be somebody who requested the bonus from there)! but i have claimed the bonus and fullfill the requirements for it from my personal computer!i can prove this!

so:

1) made my account from my personal computer - no one made another account from this computer
2) claimed the bonus from the same computer - no one claimed the bonus from this computer
3) wagered the bonus from same computer - after this all my balance was withdrawable - so the bonus was completed - no one done this from this computer

4) logged in casino account from other computer - here it can be someone who played before me - but i didn't claimed any bonus from this computer!


So i didn't broke the TCs...

Today they have sent me 1$ in my moneybookers account!but i have withdrawed 400$ .where are my money?please help me!

thanks a lot

 

[The Dude]

Please read the policies - rules - for posting complaints. And please do not cross post. Thank you.

 

[mileamihai]

I am new here! and i don't understand english very much!!!

i am sorry if i didn't was carefull with policy of posting complains!!!

but please help me because i am in a difficult situation!!!

 

[Nifty29]

I am new here! and i don't understand english very much!!!

i am sorry if i didn't was carefull with policy of posting complains!!!

but please help me because i am in a difficult situation!!!

Just some friendly advice....

Try to be calm and explain your issue as clearly as you can, without using ????? And !!!!!.....this comes across very aggressive and may stop others helping you.

 

[mileamihai]

thanks a lot for the advices!

i am losing my patience with this casino and i just wanna prove that i am not guilty and zodiac stole my winning unfair and this is the reason i was posted with !!! and ???

please tell me that you can help me! i am desperate!

 

[mileamihai]

Please read the policies - rules - for posting complaints. And please do not cross post. Thank you.

so, what do you think about my case? can you help me?

thanks a lot

 

[vinylweatherman]

Submit a complaint to the KGC (Kahnawake Gaming Commission). They have been pretty effective recently, and in one case told Casino Rewards to pay half a player's winnings because the term he broke was not in the same place as the bonus terms.

Zodiac casino's $1 for $20 seems to be generating quite a few complaints, and it is likely this is because of multi account fraud where players sign up numerous accounts, deposit $1, and withdraw only when they have won, hoping the other accounts will not be connected. This is a highly lucrative bonus for the multi accounters to scam, so it is likely they are extra vigilant. They have managed to connect accounts from your work computer to you, and these accounts have likely taken the $1 for $20 and lost. No bonus has been claimed from your work computer using your details, but no doubt different details have been used on this same computer, but there has been a common connection between all these accounts that just shouldn't be there if these were really different people. It could be as simple as one of these other accounts having been accessed from your personal computer that claimed the bonus at the work computer and lost it all.

This is one reason why you should NEVER play from a shared computer that others may have used to claim bonuses, nor allow others to play (and especially register) casino accounts on your personal computer. You should also never share deposit methods, such as using your friend's card or wallet account to fund your own casino account, or the other way round.

 

[mileamihai]

so nobody from here can help me?

 

[vinylweatherman]

so nobody from here can help me?

Nobody here can FORCE them to pay you, but the KGC CAN. There are two other alternatives:-

1) Contact Renee, the Casino Rewards rep
2) Make a formal PAB here.

You should also refrain from posting further about this, as this may prevent option 2 being available to you.

 

[mileamihai]

Nobody here can FORCE them to pay you, but the KGC CAN. There are two other alternatives:-

1) Contact Renee, the Casino Rewards rep
2) Make a formal PAB here.

You should also refrain from posting further about this, as this may prevent option 2 being available to you.

thanks man for the advices and help!

i have contacted renee but she doesn't wanted to help me

i have made a PAB here...

i hope someone will make justice in my case and i will have my money!

many thanks to you

 

[maxd]

Hello, my name is Max. I am the Player Complaints Manager here at Casinomeister which also means I am the guy who receives and handles Pitch-A-Bitch complaints.

I understand that you are upset about your problems with the casino but I have to tell you that you are doing more to harm your case than help it at this point:

1. your posts here can hurt or kill your chance of a successful Pitch-A-Bitch: please read the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ for details.
   .
2. this thread could easily be taken as an attack against the casino -- the "STOLE MY MONEY!!!!!" part is unequivocally confrontational -- and for that reason I have retitled it.
   .
3. your Pitch-A-Bitch has errors which you will have to correct before I can proceed with it. Please check your email as I've written you there about what is required. Again, this would not have happened if you had read and followed the advice offered to you in the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ.

I STRONGLY suggest you slow down, read the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ, follow the advice offered there and in my email to you. There is very good reason to expect a good results in your case, let the system work for you instead of you working against it.

Regards,
Max.

 

[Repro]

When i read this and consider the way the OP "formulates" his posts i feel there is a lot more going on that he's not telling.
If you start a post with a list of things that you ARE "allowed" to do, it usually means you did some bad stuff too.

We'll have to see what the PAB brings and i really hope i can be proven wrong here.

 

[tommouk]

I think there may be a language barrier skewing interpretation of some things the OP has said here too...

 

[maxd]

As it happens I have decided not to take this case on.

I've read over the Pitch-A-Bitch and material I have received from Renee. The OP asked for her help then repeatedly made and broke promises to her, called her and the other casino personnel racists, threatened to call "the internet police" and the courts, lied to her and ignored the good advice she gave after agreeing to comply.

Then the OP ignored the Forum Rules regarding posting complaints, lied to us on the forums and in the PAB saying Renee "didn't want to help", ignored the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ, and so forth.

Regardless of what language this person speaks or where they are from there is no excuse for such disrespectful and deceitful behaviour. I do not believe that such actions should be rewarded with the benefits of our Pitch-A-Bitch service.

I've told the OP to follow the advice given at the beginning of the Pitch-A-Bitch process and take the case to eCOGRA since Zodiac is eCOGRA certified.

(In case anyone wonders I've already Reported this post so Bryan will know of it ASAP.)

 

[The Dude]

...

Regardless of what language this person speaks or where they are from there is no excuse for such disrespectful and deceitful behaviour. I do not believe that such actions should be rewarded with the benefits of our Pitch-A-Bitch service...

Agreed.

@mileamihai
Please submit your complaint here:

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[Repro]

Told you so!

(just loooooooove to say that )

 

[chayton]

In reading the OP's original post, it looks like they're saying they took the deposit bonus and played from work, then took the same deposit bonus and played from home - thinking that playing from two different computer/IPs would be ok because the casino couldn't prove it was them who played from work. Or am I reading it wrong?

 

[mileamihai]

As it happens I have decided not to take this case on.

I've read over the Pitch-A-Bitch and material I have received from Renee. The OP asked for her help then repeatedly made and broke promises to her, called her and the other casino personnel racists, threatened to call "the internet police" and the courts, lied to her and ignored the good advice she gave after agreeing to comply.

Then the OP ignored the Forum Rules regarding posting complaints, lied to us on the forums and in the PAB saying Renee "didn't want to help", ignored the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ, and so forth.

Regardless of what language this person speaks or where they are from there is no excuse for such disrespectful and deceitful behaviour. I do not believe that such actions should be rewarded with the benefits of our Pitch-A-Bitch service.

I've told the OP to follow the advice given at the beginning of the Pitch-A-Bitch process and take the case to eCOGRA since Zodiac is eCOGRA certified.

(In case anyone wonders I've already Reported this post so Bryan will know of it ASAP.)

hey!!! what is this!!! you are only liers! i didn't called renee racist....i ve spoked very sincerely with her and i told her many good words! do you wanna see my emails sent to her?

look:
From: Mihai Milea [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 4:29 PM
To: Renee, RewardsAffiliates.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP ME!!! URGENT!!!

Please Renee....i didn't post anything about casino rewards....i just answered to that man who gaved me some advices...... please undestand me that i didn't said any word about casino reward! i just posted that i will get in touch with you!!!

now, i know that it isn't your job but i heard on the internet that you are a good man and you helped many people!!!

PLEASE HELP ME IN THIS PROBLEM AND I WILL BE THANKFULL TO YOU ALL MY LIFE!!!

PLEASE Renee!!!


is here something wrong i ve wrote her??? i don't think so! i only asked for help but she treat me like an idiot!

no problem! this was the first casino i ve ever played online and the last one.....

But i will tell anybody and i will post on every forum on the internet about ZODIAC CASINO! and if someone think i am lieing with something, i can prove you that i am not gulty of broken the TCs in this case!

ZODIAC told me that the winnings were confiscated and nothing else....they have the right to steal the customers money without explanation and without profs? i think not, but they didn't think like me!

anywhell, nobody wanted to help me to prove with documents, with screenshots of internet connections, to verify the IP's....nobody nobody!!!!!

anywhell thanks a lot for reading about my problem!!! i will action ZODIAC CASINO in the Justice Monday morning! i ve spoked with my layer and i think i will get more than 400$ from zodiac casino!!! we registered all the proofs at the Court Of Justice in Bucharest and Monday we will proceed to action this in Justice!!!

bye bye

 

[The Dude]

hey!!! what is this!!! you are only liers! i didn't called renee racist....i ve spoked very sincerely with her and i told her many good words! do you wanna see my emails sent to her?
..

You need to grow some manners.

From you to the casino:

SO, IF YOU DON'T JUDGE MY CASE CORECTLY, I WILL ANOUNCE THE INTERNET POLICE FRAUD AND ALL THE GAMBLING ASOCIASION,
BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE RACISTS. YOU HAVE BLOCKED MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE I AM FROM ROMANIA!!!!

Just one of a few.

They have also claimed that you are connected to about 15 other accounts, so good luck with eCOGRA

 

[vinylweatherman]

hey!!! what is this!!! you are only liers! i didn't called renee racist....i ve spoked very sincerely with her and i told her many good words! do you wanna see my emails sent to her?

look:
From: Mihai Milea [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 4:29 PM
To: Renee, RewardsAffiliates.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP ME!!! URGENT!!!

Please Renee....i didn't post anything about casino rewards....i just answered to that man who gaved me some advices...... please undestand me that i didn't said any word about casino reward! i just posted that i will get in touch with you!!!

now, i know that it isn't your job but i heard on the internet that you are a good man and you helped many people!!!

PLEASE HELP ME IN THIS PROBLEM AND I WILL BE THANKFULL TO YOU ALL MY LIFE!!!

PLEASE Renee!!!


is here something wrong i ve wrote her??? i don't think so! i only asked for help but she treat me like an idiot!

no problem! this was the first casino i ve ever played online and the last one.....

But i will tell anybody and i will post on every forum on the internet about ZODIAC CASINO! and if someone think i am lieing with something, i can prove you that i am not gulty of broken the TCs in this case!

ZODIAC told me that the winnings were confiscated and nothing else....they have the right to steal the customers money without explanation and without profs? i think not, but they didn't think like me!

anywhell, nobody wanted to help me to prove with documents, with screenshots of internet connections, to verify the IP's....nobody nobody!!!!!

anywhell thanks a lot for reading about my problem!!! i will action ZODIAC CASINO in the Justice Monday morning! i ve spoked with my layer and i think i will get more than 400$ from zodiac casino!!! we registered all the proofs at the Court Of Justice in Bucharest and Monday we will proceed to action this in Justice!!! bye bye

Has your lawyer checked that gambling debts are enforceable under Romanian law? If not, you would only be able to sue for the return of your $1, which you got back anyway. From experience, I find it hard to believe you have gone all the way to a court hearing in a few days, so I think you are bluffing, and have done no such thing.

There is nothing wrong with your quoted email other than the appearance of panic and desperation in your plea, which immediately weakens your negotiating position. It is the rest of the communications that appear to have been considered offensive.

This all taken together looks like an attempt to bully the casino into making a quick payment before it has time to consider the evidence in more depth, which has now revealed 15 accounts, presumably all from the two computers at work and at home.

This is almost a "free chip" offer, and such offers are targetted by multi-accounters. Operators know this, so make careful checks not only on winning accounts, but on suspicious losing accounts that appear to be linked to it.

 

[chuchu59]

hey!!! what is this!!! you are only liers! i didn't called renee racist....i ve spoked very sincerely with her and i told her many good words! do you wanna see my emails sent to her?

look:
From: Mihai Milea [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 4:29 PM
To: Renee, RewardsAffiliates.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP ME!!! URGENT!!!

Please Renee....i didn't post anything about casino rewards....i just answered to that man who gaved me some advices...... please undestand me that i didn't said any word about casino reward! i just posted that i will get in touch with you!!!

now, i know that it isn't your job but i heard on the internet that you are a good man and you helped many people!!!

PLEASE HELP ME IN THIS PROBLEM AND I WILL BE THANKFULL TO YOU ALL MY LIFE!!!

PLEASE Renee!!!


is here something wrong i ve wrote her??? i don't think so! i only asked for help but she treat me like an idiot!

no problem! this was the first casino i ve ever played online and the last one.....

But i will tell anybody and i will post on every forum on the internet about ZODIAC CASINO! and if someone think i am lieing with something, i can prove you that i am not gulty of broken the TCs in this case!

ZODIAC told me that the winnings were confiscated and nothing else....they have the right to steal the customers money without explanation and without profs? i think not, but they didn't think like me!

anywhell, nobody wanted to help me to prove with documents, with screenshots of internet connections, to verify the IP's....nobody nobody!!!!!

anywhell thanks a lot for reading about my problem!!! i will action ZODIAC CASINO in the Justice Monday morning! i ve spoked with my layer and i think i will get more than 400$ from zodiac casino!!! we registered all the proofs at the Court Of Justice in Bucharest and Monday we will proceed to action this in Justice!!!

bye bye

Hey! (Using your tone) Why should we believe you simply because you posted and not Renee who has helped a lot of players in the past. Your style of posting casts a doubt in my mind as to whether you spoke sincerely to her. While Casino Rewards may not be everybody's favourite choice of MG casinos they still pay but where bonuses are involved they are extra tight about it. Good Luck with your legal action. I would love to know the outcome. Bye bye!

 

[mileamihai]

how can i make 15 account from the same computer????? it is impossible......

if you know, zodiac casino software ( microgaming) doesn;t allow to make 2 accounts from the same computer!

so i told you very clear:

1) i have made only one account ( my first account at an online casino in my life ) from my personal computer from home ... nobody else done another account from here

2) i have claimed only one time the 20$ bonus ( from my personal computer from home) no one claimed the bonus before from this computer

3) after i wagered the bonus corectly from my personal computer from home, and all my balance was withdrawable....... i have logged in casino and played again FROM MY WORK COMPUTER!!! there it is a WORK PLACE ... MAYBE ALL THE COMPUTER MAY HAVE THE SAME EXTERNAL IP....IT DEPENDS ON INTERNET PROVIDER.....AND MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE HAVE MADE AN ACCOUNT AT ZODIAC AND CLAIMED THE BONUS FROM THAT COMPUTER!!!!

BUT I DIDN;T MADE ANOTHER ACCOUNT ( like they say multiple accounts .... in the T&Cs it sais not to make multiple accounts from same computer/ip .... but they don't say not to play from 2 or more accounts at the same computer!!!)

AND I DIDN;T REQUESTED ANOTHER BONUS ( i told you....i met the wagering requirements from my home computer........)

so i didn;t broke any T&CS....

why nobody wanna read my opinion!???

Renee didn;t read my case, she ask casino suport for infor and they have told their opinion!!! that i have multiple accounts!!! but i told you all the things have happened!!!



Now, i don't lie! i ve spoke with an layer!! he told me that someone else had a problem like me at ELdorado casino and they blocked his account and confiscate 3000$ without being guilty!!! that was 1 year ago!!

and in the instance, they have proved the inocence of the player and he asked for 20.000$ from Eldorado....and they have payed the entirely sum!!!

so i am thinking to do the same!!! because i didn't wanted money that i ve won unfair!!! i just wanted my money that i have played for them FAIR!!! AND I DIDN;T BREAK ANY CASINO RULE!!!!

BUT NOBODY WANNA HEAR MY OPINION ON THIS FORUM!!!! SO, I WILL NOT CONTINUE TO POST HERE ABOUT MY CASE.......

and if my language and my tone was not correct is because i am nervous because i wanna prove that ZODIAC confiscated my money UNFAIR, and nobody believes me and no one helps me.

Have a nice day all of you!

 

[mileamihai]

You need to grow some manners.

From you to the casino:


Just one of a few.

They have also claimed that you are connected to about 15 other accounts, so good luck with eCOGRA

It can be possible to be conected with 15 other accounts???? =)) you make me laugh!!!

the only chance is if the internet provider from my workplace gives only one external IP for all the computers in the network!!! and if it is like i said, it can't be 15 accounts at my work place.....there aren;t 15 people in the Company here!!!

so, another lie from Zodiac casino!!!

 

[mileamihai]

And in the end!

Maybe i will win in instance and i will prove my inocence in this case, maybe they will win (like it happen on this site.......because nobody wanna help and believe me)....

but from now on, i will post on every site and every gambling forum on the internet, minimum 20 posts daily about the RUBBERS FROM ZODIAC CASINO and CASINO REWARDS!!! and you will see, that they will have more to lose than my 400$ that i won fair and they STOLED!!!

and if my posts will be deleted, i will post again ...and again....and again...... and if somebody will search on google about Casino rewards will se my posts and somebody will believe me!!!

CASINO REWARDS = RUBBERS

their T&C's : Zodiac Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings for irregular play. 'Irregular play' includes but is not limited to any one or more of the following types of play:

Placing single bets equal to or in excess of 25% or more of the value of the bonus credited to the account prior to the play-through requirement for that bonus having been met;
Using the double-up feature to increase bet values;
Even money bets on Sic Bo, Craps and Roulette
Starting a game's feature after the bonus balance used to build up the credits towards the feature has reached 0.

SO THEY CAN STEAL YOUR MONEY WHENEVER THEY WANT!!!!

NICE CASINO =))))))


Account Suspension / Closure

Zodiac Casino reserves the right to close or suspend a Player's account at its sole discretion


NICE ONE TOO!!!!

 

[The Dude]

CASINO REWARDS = RUBBERS

1.18 - Don't be a PITA Members who just don't have a clue on what is socially acceptable, or are just too annoying will have their accounts closed. The administration and moderators of Casinomeister reserve the right to close accounts at our discretion. This may be a public forum that encourages freedom of expression, but it's still our house. Abuse it and lose it.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/forum-rules/

Adios.

 

[Nifty29]

Now, i don't lie! i ve spoke with an layer!!

Well I would have thought a RUBBER would have been just the ticket....

 

[ksech]

The rubber has layers? Really confused between all the ??? and the !!! and .... maybe it's a good thing there are layers?

 

[chuchu59]

layer (lawyer) and rubber (robber). I understand that there are people whose first language isnt English but shouldnt they make at least some effort to ensure words are spelt correctly. Forget about grammar. Nevertheless, good riddance. Loved the username in red.

 

[The Dude]

I honestly thought he was calling Casino Rewards a bunch of condoms. "Robbers" didn't dawn on me

 

[chuchu59]

Our government doesnt advocate the use of condoms. For safer sex, yes but they also want to see a drastic increase in population so that we can truly become a metropolitan city.

 

[chayton]

someone else had a problem like me at ELdorado casino.......they have proved the inocence of the player and he asked for 20.000$ from Eldorado....and they have payed the entirely sum!!!

What a nightmare to be owed $20K from Eldorado Palace.

 

[Jasminebed]

Usually I feel for the OP, but I'm inclined to believe CR in this case. Just a gut feeling.

Maybe I can put the OP in touch with a woman wants me to keep her in my prayers. I think she needs help moving a large sum of money out of her country.

I know that Casino Rewards does have a clause that prohibits just jumping from casino to casino claiming the free chips without making some deposits... perhaps those are some of the 15 accounts referred to?

Seems to know quite a bit about online gambling for his/her very first online account too. Had a moneybookers' account to make the deposit from as well.

I think you should have got a name for that Bucharest layer before banning the OP though... $20K payment from El Dorado on a $3K debt? I think there are a few Betfair and other players would love his name

 

[Tengil]

Just a FYI
KGC has ruled in favour of the player and he has been paid.

 

[4 of a kind]

Just a FYI
KGC has ruled in favour of the player and he has been paid.

That's odd.... Based on the comments in this thread and the OP's banning, I was convinced the OP was obnoxious, belligerent, arrogant, illiterate, and a fraudster. I mean common what else could being tied to 15 different accounts indicate?

 

[4 of a kind]

They have also claimed that you are connected to about 15 other accounts, so good luck with eCOGRA

Maybe Bryan could confirm this player was in fact paid, and clarify these accusations made by the casino. It would appear that since the OP got paid that these accusations could not have been true, and someone is lying.

Apparently they sent his $1.00 deposit back and blocked his account. This would indicate that their investigation was complete and confirmed.

So exactly what went on here? Where are all the righteous members that should be demanding a clear explanation?

 

[P.V.]

So exactly what went on here? Where are all the righteous members that should be demanding a clear explanation?

Just read the thread 4OAK, quite confusing. Clarification is needed as you've suggested.

 

[Nifty29]

Maybe Bryan could confirm this player was in fact paid, and clarify these accusations made by the casino. It would appear that since the OP got paid that these accusations could not have been true, and someone is lying.

Apparently they sent his $1.00 deposit back and blocked his account. This would indicate that their investigation was complete and confirmed.

So exactly what went on here? Where are all the righteous members that should be demanding a clear explanation?

"all the righteous members"

A clarification of that statement is also called for....to whom are you referring? Do you mean "righteous" as in derailing every other thread with "online casinos are evil" rants or something different?

 

[Brooklyn]

I see a derail coming, sigh.

Ok. If he was in fact cleared and paid then good for him.

 

[chayton]

I just found this and the player responded that yes they did get paid,

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[Tengil]

That's odd.... Based on the comments in this thread and the OP's banning, I was convinced the OP was obnoxious, belligerent, arrogant, illiterate, and a fraudster. I mean common what else could being tied to 15 different accounts indicate?

You only need to look at who made the claim about being tied to 15 accounts.

Their rep who has a history of making false or otherwise totally ludicrous statements over the years on different forums. Whatever she is misinformed or not one should always take her posts/statements with a grain of salt.

 

[4 of a kind]

"all the righteous members"

A clarification of that statement is also called for....to whom are you referring? Do you mean "righteous" as in derailing every other thread with "online casinos are evil" rants or something different?

Since this thread is pretty much solved, I'll respond to you Mr. Niffty.

"Righteous" members would definitely include you as one of them. Had the same facts been confirmed in favor of the casinos findings, you would have been the first one here calling the OP a fraud along with some other adjectives.

Regardless who it was representing the casino that linked this OP to fraud, they weren't going to pay him and proved that by sending him back only his $1.00 keeping his winnings. Once Bryan announced the OP was tied to 15 different accounts it was a foregone conclusion here he was a fraud.

It's obvious this casino lied to the OP and also to Bryan. Had this player not gone elsewhere for help he would have remained a victim of theft.

Why aren't you, one of the fairest members here not demanding an explanation of what actually was the casinos intentions? Wouldn't you be concerned if this tactic is a common practice there? This certainly would be grounds for a rogue listing.

How many others did this happen to, that didn't know where to get help and just walked away? This player found this place and was labeled a fraud and banned. Good thing he didn't quit after what happened here.

How could a casino rep who has a history of making false or otherwise totally ludicrous statements over the years on different forums, still be representing such an honest casino?

 

[maxd]

This player ... was labeled a fraud and banned.

Nice try.

If you'd care to look at the sequence of events as they actually occurred you'll see that the player was not "labeled a fraud and banned", he was labeled a PITA and banned. This is why it says "Banned User - too annoying" under his user name. For details see the following:

Regardless of what language this person speaks or where they are from there is no excuse for such disrespectful and deceitful behaviour. I do not believe that such actions should be rewarded with the benefits of our Pitch-A-Bitch service.

And the actual ban notice: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mileamihai-vs-casino-rewards-zodiac-casino.46082/

In Bryan's final statement he mentioned in passing that there was the possibility of multiple accounts but that was not the reason for the ban, more of an afterthought.

As to the outrage of the "righteous" ... I suggest you keep your religious zeal out of the discussion and off our forums. That's a serious personal agenda you've got going there and flogging it as you have been recently is going to get you into the Moderated user's group (posts will have to be approved before they appear on the forums), or worse.

Later: Realised I forgot about this bit:

It's obvious this casino lied to the OP and also to Bryan.

No that is not obvious at all. As yet I don't see that there is any evidence to support such a statement. "Just say it and somebody will believe you" may be sufficient for your purposes but it's not sufficient here. This is troll behaviour and I think you know where that will get you.

 

[4 of a kind]

As to the outrage of the "righteous" ... I suggest you keep your religious zeal out of the discussion and off our forums. That's a serious personal agenda you've got going there and flogging it as you have been recently is going to get you into the Moderated user's group (posts will have to be approved before they appear on the forums), or worse.

I clearly understand and respect your warning above and will make certain it never happens again.

Could you clear up exactly why the players winnings were forfeited and then suddenly returned when the KGC got involved?

I would also like to point out how the KGC demonstrated in this case how simple things could be with a regulatory enforcement in place that works. Issues like this one could be handled with direct communication to the commission. (Judge and Jury) If all casinos were forced to abide by the rulings of the commission, all the nonsense would disappear.

The KGC has a long way to go yet, but at least we know their breathing.

 

[maxd]

I clearly understand and respect your warning above and will make certain it never happens again.

Thank you, that would be appreciated. Please keep this in mind next time you are tempted to post one of your "I'm the last one asking tough questions, everyone else has been banned or driven off" fantasies (such as here).

Could you clear up exactly why the players winnings were forfeited and then suddenly returned when the KGC got involved?

Not really, no. I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it.

 

[4 of a kind]

Not really, no. I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it.

Does this mean you don't care one way or the other why the OP got his winnings back?

 

[maxd]

Does this mean you don't care one way or the other why the OP got his winnings back?

No, it means "I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it." What kind of question is that? To what end?

As far as I'm concerned the OP was abusive and manipulative and deserved to be tossed to the curb, as I previously stated. Why would I want to get involved with it now? To satisfy your curiosity? Sorry but that's not† a good enough reason, I've got other issues that need my attention.

If the OP had been been even a little bit civilised and respectful this might have worked out differently. Given the way they did behave though I said I wanted nothing to do with them and that remains the case. The less involved I am the better, IMO.

 

[Diane]

No, it means "I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it." What kind of question is that? To what end?

As far as I'm concerned the OP was abusive and manipulative and deserved to be tossed to the curb, as I previously stated. Why would I want to get involved with it now? To satisfy your curiosity? Sorry but that's a good enough reason, I've got other issues that need my attention.

If the OP had been been even a little bit civilised and respectful this might have worked out differently. Given the way they did behave though I said I wanted nothing to do with them and that remains the case. The less involved I am the better, IMO.

Max - Kudos to you (and Bryan) for sticking to your guns. A brand new poster, who's first post is so inflammatory and accusatory doesn't deserve your time or attention. Too much time wasted by you and Bryan on this already.

Even if he struggled with the English language ----- his tone didn't deserve a response. And it appears he selectively shared emails with us since Bryan had the racist one and it was denied by the OP.

Many of us want to help new members who find their way here perhaps due to a problem. But they have to be respectful, polite and "calm down" when told to do so. They are not ENTITLED to help, help is given as a service and by people trying to be nice and neighborly. You don't owe anyone anything, especially someone who is loud and combative.

Please save your time and energy for those contributing members of the forum. I understand being upset, I understand having a poor command of the English language, but he knew enough to make threats in between his pleadings.

OP doesn't deserve the space and time he took up here.

IMO

Diane

 

[4 of a kind]

No, it means "I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it." What kind of question is that? To what end?

As far as I'm concerned the OP was abusive and manipulative and deserved to be tossed to the curb, as I previously stated. Why would I want to get involved with it now? To satisfy your curiosity? Sorry but that's a good enough reason, I've got other issues that need my attention.

If the OP had been been even a little bit civilised and respectful this might have worked out differently. Given the way they did behave though I said I wanted nothing to do with them and that remains the case. The less involved I am the better, IMO.

I understand your decision not to get involved with the OP. I just thought you or Bryan might be interested since this case had an odd twist, and maybe a warning was in order for the safety of the members here.

I would have a hard time getting any information from the KGC (if they would even respond to me) without any information other then to link them to this thread.

 

[maxd]

I just thought you or Bryan might be interested since this case had an odd twist, and maybe a warning was in order for the safety of the members here.

Unless I've missed something I see no call for a Warning. Or perhaps you meant a reminder about treating casino reps with a bit of respect? Or was it a caution to the readers that some forum members have a big, fat agenda and that readers can't always take what someone posts at any given moment as an honest representation of what they are really on about? So many possibilities, so little time.

I would have a hard time getting any information from the KGC (if they would even respond to me) without any information other then to link them to this thread.

Yes, I imagine you might. Perhaps you can calm yourself with the thought that anything I dug up would likely be off the record anyway so ... nothing would change AFAICT.

As to Bryan, you very well know he's his own man and I'm sure he will respond, or not, as he sees fit.

FWIW, I felt it necessary to update an earlier post: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mileamihai-vs-casino-rewards-zodiac-casino.46082/.

 

[4 of a kind]

Unless I've missed something I see no call for a Warning. Or perhaps you meant a reminder about treating casino reps with a bit of respect? Or was it a caution to the readers that some forum members have a big, fat agenda and that readers can't always take what someone posts at any given moment as an honest representation of what they are really on about? So many possibilities, so little time.



Yes, I imagine you might. Perhaps you can calm yourself with the thought that anything I dug up would likely be off the record anyway so ... nothing would change AFAICT.

As to Bryan, you very well know he's his own man and I'm sure he will respond, or not, as he sees fit.

FWIW, I felt it necessary to update an earlier post: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mileamihai-vs-casino-rewards-zodiac-casino.46082/.

If you believe everything is in fair order concerning the OP’s outcome, I could only agree. Sorry for taking up your time concerning this issue.

Not sure how a reminder about treating reps with respect fits into this thread, but no problem, I understand.

I’d be very disappointed if what I’m really on about in my posts could be interpreted as having any other meaning. I thought my posts were blatantly clear.

Every single player that ever deposits and is willing to risk their money gaming online needs real protection which will only be achieved with regulation and enforcement.

Anyone that thinks gambling online in the present environment is safe, are in denial, since its history speaks for itself.