Winner Screenshots!

**Webzcas** · 15th October 2005, 08:35 PM

Simmo can I buy a stake in your future games!

**Simmo!** · 15th October 2005, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Webzcas

Simmo can I buy a stake in your future games!

Hah. You obviously havent seen my Poker Ride shot in the Screenshots That Suck thread

**Bruce Hamilton** · 15th October 2005, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Note the difference in the balance on the left to teh win on the right

Guess 32Red wasn't ready to see you leave yet.

**caruso** · 16th October 2005, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by lydia

after seeing so many beautiful screenshots, I decided to try my luck with slots.

That's the problem - you only see the wins. Because this is the "winners" thread. And the losses? They're totally intangible, there being no pretty pictures, only money gone.

But then, that's a lot more tangible at the end of the day, isn't it?

Whichever way you look at it, every $100 you put through a slot machine returns approximately $95. It doesn't matter however many 32Red slot hits Simmo posts, your deposit still only lasts a 20X playthrough on average.

BJ may be "boring" (lol, you need to read a few books on the subject before you dismiss it like that), but your money lasts fully ten times longer on average.

Pretty decent substitute for "boring", in my opinion.

Get yourself hooked on slots and you'll lose all your money, and quickly. And what you'll have for your trouble is..?

A handful of nice screenshots.

**Gramma** · 16th October 2005, 03:36 AM

Well I can't eat MY Cornflakes now

Great score there Simmo!

**venetian** · 16th October 2005, 05:10 AM

Caruso you have got to be the most negative gambler I have ever met. This thread is for us to enjoy each others excitement on our wins. Why don't you start a thread for losses, see how many people are interested in seeing that!
Way to go Simmo! Keep 'em coming the rest of us love to see a winner. Gramma go ahead and eat your cornflakes, we all remember how 'bad' the slots have been to you.LOL

**tal23** · 16th October 2005, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by caruso

And what you'll have for your trouble is..?

A handful of nice screenshots.

mmmmm screeeenshots....

**Simmo!** · 16th October 2005, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by caruso

That's the problem - you only see the wins. Because this is the "winners" thread. And the losses? They're totally intangible, there being no pretty pictures, only money gone.

But then, that's a lot more tangible at the end of the day, isn't it?

Whichever way you look at it, every $100 you put through a slot machine returns approximately $95. It doesn't matter however many 32Red slot hits Simmo posts, your deposit still only lasts a 20X playthrough on average.

BJ may be "boring" (lol, you need to read a few books on the subject before you dismiss it like that), but your money lasts fully ten times longer on average.

Pretty decent substitute for "boring", in my opinion.

Get yourself hooked on slots and you'll lose all your money, and quickly. And what you'll have for your trouble is..?

A handful of nice screenshots.

OK...despite having this image of Caruso hunched over his PC looking like Victor Meldrew and muttering "humbug" evertime he posts, I have to say he has a reasoanble point here. It's easier to lose at slots than any other game for sure and you have to be "sensible".

The nature of slots is that they pay lots of small wins that eat through your bankroll but every now and again they pay a big win (as above). The key is to cashout when you are ahead. Set a target when you start and when you hit it, go out, read a book, do anything, but just cash out!

Sorry Caruso - Thunderstruck is way more fun than any card game ;-) And sorry if i insulted you up there, but hey you wanna see yourself from this angle...you're my parents

**umberto** · 16th October 2005, 12:37 PM

What a slot!!!!

I always liked their other games but never played slots before.
Second day today and after a 250$ win yesterday things just
got better today!!!

**caruso** · 16th October 2005, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Simmo

The key is to cashout when you are ahead. Set a target when you start and when you hit it, go out, read a book, do anything, but just cash out!

This is a common fallacy. What cashing out when you're ahead achieves is to limit losses, because you STOP. Stopping is the key here. You cannot get around the "95 for 100" fact I posted: it's the basic law of slots.

The Basic Law Of Slots comes from the fact that cashing out ahead ignores the other side of the equation, when your balance drops like a stone. You have, of course, no way of knowing when those occasions are on the cards, and as such no possible way of guaranteeing a "cashout when you're ahead".

If you add the two together, the "cashouts ahead" and the "drop like stone", you arrive at $95 back for every $100 invested. You cannot get around that. The problem is that gamblers have selective memories; for many, the losses are just blanked out and never happened. It's only when the serious shit hits the fan that they get a wake up call; then, it may be too late.

Cashing out while ahead has big pluses, but only in terms of LIMITING losses. It cannot turn a loser into a winner.

The way to approach slots is to set yourself a "time / wager" limit. If you're playing $2.50 spins at 12 spins a minute, that's $1800 an hour through the machine, which works out at an average of...errr...$90 loss. If that's too much to handle:

Play slower.

Play for less time.

Switch down a denomination.

Keep switching machines - probably saving at least 10 spins per switch.

Play blackjack for a bit.

That is the only way to properly view your slot time. THEN, you can have all the winner screenshots you want, with a clear idea of where you are in the grand scheme. It takes a lot of the fun out, but it has a huge upside: you know the EXACT cost of your play.

Originally Posted by venetian

Why don't you start a thread for losses, see how many people are interested in seeing that!

I did:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ead.php?t=5092

Started 18 months after this one. Over 10,000 views - and that including the fact that Bryan started a very similar one a few weeks after...

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ead.php?t=6715

...which grabbed a lot of the interest in that subject.

Winning is great, make no mistake about that - I'm a big advocate of beating casinos. It's when I see posts like the one containing the bit I quoted about seeing lovely screenshots and being tempted to play that I get worried, because this proves my contention: that directly as a result of these threads, people are being tempted into something they know nothing about, and will lose their money big time.

This bothers me.

So forgive my "social conscience".