Affiliate Questions, et al

[WagerWitch]

Do you guys find that you make a LOT of money at the beginning of the month - only to have it wiped out near the end of the month by wins?

I'm just curious.

Lately my affiliate sites have been bringing in close to NOTHING.

And I have whales who are playing - but then - somehow MAGICALLY - every month lately - there has been little to no money left in the affiliate account right near the end of the month.

I'm really curious as to whether this is something happening with others as well..

I mean it was possible one time - and quite possible a second and third time...

But a fourth?

And we're talking 3 platforms: MG - Rival - RTG

Any ideas?

[jod5413]

Meki,

I think you want to remove this and redo it in a better place, either webs corner or industry threads. You would probably get a better chance at replies, too.

[WagerWitch]

Meki,

I think you want to remove this and redo it in a better place, either webs corner or industry threads. You would probably get a better chance at replies, too.

Thanks - but I'm not sure about that - due to the fact that it is the casinos running the affiliate sites - and the casinos reporting the information.

There isn't just an affiliate mosh pit - so I posted it in here - if Max or someone else has a better place to move this to, please do... I just felt that this was the more appropriate place.

Cause I'm not sure that there IS something wrong - just more watching the numbers getting sickeningly low - but seeing the activity - then seeing it drop like a hot potato massively.

[KasinoKing]

Do you guys find that you make a LOT of money at the beginning of the month - only to have it wiped out near the end of the month by wins?

One possibility: Your stats look good at the start right after the players have deposited (this is shown as casino gain), but if you have slow players like me they may not finish the WR and withdraw until days or weeks later which would make your stats drop dramatically.

Lately my affiliate sites have been bringing in close to NOTHING.

That's normal.

I'm really curious as to whether this is something happening with others as well..

Any ideas?

Here's my idea; Do what I do. I don't check my stats during the month - I wait until after the end of the month. Then I never get any surprise disappointments like you, but occasionally I get a very pleasant surprise!

KK

PS: I had a quick glance at your site & see you still have Tradition on there. Did you know they have been labeled "Not recommended" by CM and also they are ripping-off affiliates who signed up before mid-March?

[WagerWitch]

One possibility: Your stats look good at the start right after the players have deposited (this is shown as casino gain), but if you have slow players like me they may not finish the WR and withdraw until days or weeks later which would make your stats drop dramatically.


That's normal.


Here's my idea; Do what I do. I don't check my stats during the month - I wait until after the end of the month. Then I never get any surprise disappointments like you, but occasionally I get a very pleasant surprise!

KK

PS: I had a quick glance at your site & see you still have Tradition on there. Did you know they have been labeled "Not recommended" by CM and also they are ripping-off affiliates who signed up before mid-March?

Not that I didn't know. I haven't updated in the last month. So should probably do that...

Not recommended is not Rouged yet - and haven't seen the final answer to the situation on there.

Just as an FYI - I've only had ONE person sign up and deposit thru them in MONTHS - and the depositor only deposited like maybe 300/500 - or something like that... ahem.... So you can guess what that meant I got... in the end.

Sigh...

I'm waiting to see what the final end take on this tho guys - I'm always willing to believe in people... Although - that belief is wearing a BIT thin..

If they get rouged - I will notify and or remove.

[WagerWitch]

Hey didn't know they were ripping off affiliates - you gotta link I can see?

I am waiting on outcome of rogue/ish etc. here before actually pulling - yanno?
But would like to see anything regarding affiliates being ripped off.


I'm upset with the BJ situation - but I will wait to see the action they take.

[dcpam39]

WW, i an not sure you mean to imply this, but it seems from your post that your concern regarding tradition is predicated more on whether the affliates are paid vs whether the players are cheated.

In some ways, understandable, because the affliate business is based on player's losses, but still hard to hear, see in print or understand.

Pam

[WagerWitch]

WW, i an not sure you mean to imply this, but it seems from your post that your concern regarding tradition is predicated more on whether the affliates are paid vs whether the players are cheated.

In some ways, understandable, because the affliate business is based on player's losses, but still hard to hear, see in print or understand.

Pam

NOPE.... NOT AT ALL.

Sorry you took it that way - or if my words came across that way (I'm trying not to be so VERBOSE)

Anyhow - I am willing to give a chance to both.

A) IF it was a human error - and Tradition does the RIGHT thing and goes back over their records (which could LITERALLY take weeks) and provides a decent repayment - then they are straight shooting from the hip.

I mean - YOU all must remember Mega Moohlah --- right? Stuff happens.

B) If Tradition decides - OH well - too bad - so sad - then *POOF* they are gone.

1a and b) If CM rouges Tradition - then again - usually most of us webmasters toss rouged casinos.

However - a lot of things must be taken into play. I've seen Tradition work individually with people - and sorry - I have seen some good stuff from them.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt FIRST - then jump ship later if they prove me wrong.

POINT 2 About Affiliates:

I've NEVER heard ANYTHING about Tradition concerning "screwing over affiliates" I got paid... but - I asked for a point in the direction.

Those are just my thoughts on it right now - about Tradition.

However - this discussion is NOT meant to get derailed to JUST Tradition... It is to talk about ALL platforms.

I'm seriously seeing a trend:

About 700 or more in my favor or more around the 20th of the month in supposed real time - then -----sploooooooosh ----- down to 21.00 by the 30th...

Yanno?

Not just once - not just twice - but many times - and across MANY platforms.

I don't hear of people winning... Not much anyhow...

So - this is where my questions are going.

[dominique]

Here you go: http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...ight=tradition

They are apparently the ultimate prototype of indiscriminate cheating of players and affs. It stands to reason - cheating anyone means a lack of integrity, and if they cheat their cleaning lady or any other party, chances are you'll get cheated too if you do any business with them.

Re. lower income for affs:

I always keep an eye on how combined winnings compare to combined deposit amounts at any specific casino or group, and if it sinks below a certain threshhold I look at player forums and drop the place if I see complaints. If there are no complaints, I move it to the bottom listing until it improves or drops off the list. If I don't see a good percentage of winners I smell a rat. If all the winners are bunched at the end of the month I smell a different kind of rat.

So, from what I see, winners are about the same as always, but I see the bad economy having an impact - lots of people are cashing out a lot more than they used to. Usually, depending on the size of the win, people will cash out a part and keep playing with the rest. Last year I saw a lot of people cash it all out and stop playing til the next month. This year, so far, the trend has started reversing a little bit, very slowly.

[NASHVEGAS]

Not that I didn't know. I haven't updated in the last month. So should probably do that...

Your business, no rush, now if the affiliates are getting the shaft as you and Pam conclude (your posts, not ours), maybe you will update sooner

Not recommended is not Rouged yet - and haven't seen the final answer to the situation on there.

Typical affiliate spin BS and as usual incorrect

Sigh...

Rightbackacha

I'm waiting to see what the final end take on this tho guys - I'm always willing to believe in people... Although - that belief is wearing a BIT thin..

Typical affiliate spin BS

If they get rouged - I will notify and or remove.

If they get rogued or rouged??????????? .....Sigh,Sigh,Sigh.........Tradition is ROGUED or ROUGED.

WW, all the above said , and in your defense, I do understand how one may be confused with CASINOMEISTER'S ROGUE PIT and the number of Rogue categories. It does appear clearer though if one reads both the descriptions of the "Rogue Section" and each individual category of the "Rogue Section" in the "ROGUE PIT".........Before Mother Teresa (we both know her well, my frienemy,FML) gets all worked up, please accept my apologies for my arrogance

http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue

"CASINOMEISTER'S ROGUE PIT"
"Over the years, Casinomeister's infamous and sometimes coveted "Rogue Section" has spawned into a number of categories - each with it's own level of roguish attributes. There is the most serious level of being a straight out "rogue" operation that is clearly a rip off joint to the lesser "Bumblings, Blunders and Negligence" and "Stupid Casino Tricks."

Nevertheless, it doesn't matter whether these operations are just plain sloppy or have intentions to cheat - the operations listed within these confines need to be scrutinized by the careful and diligent player. Proceed with caution, and at times - trepidation."

"Casino Warnings
Rogue Casinos
Not Recommended Casinos
Evil Software Providers
Bumblings, Blunders and Negligence
Fake Watchdog Sites
Evil webmasters
Dungeon of Evil
On Probation"

FML