Affiliate Questions, et al

[AussieDave]

I believe these type of thread get heated because:

• Players have been scammed by dodgy affiliates
• Players have been scammed by rogue/dodgy casinos
• The majority of players see all affiliate as only caring about how much they make, not about players.
• Reputably affiliates who care about players are tired of rogue/dodgy affiliates given them a bad name.

As a reputable casino affiliate webmaster, if I see a casino affiliate doing stuff or promoting a clip joint which ultimately is going to shaft a player, then I will say something.

Ultimately it affects my reputation as a a casino affiliate. Which affects my business.

If casino affiliates don't like people standing up for players, which means coping flack over promoting clip joints. It's easy don't promote them.


Cheers



Dave

[NASHVEGAS]

Wager Witch you are one who keeps harping on and on about Tradition and how you are being ganged up on and your rights and freedom as a webmaster. Geez woman, no one is wanting to burn you at the stake. You've worked yourself into quite a tizzy over not much of nothing.

I started a different thread asking a question, you took it personal, I should have changed the title of my thread in hind sight and now Max merged the threads which makes it a little more confusing. Nash wasn't picking on you, he would have said that to anyone who is defending Tradition/Rival. He does have a bone to pick with Rival and yes he has a right to. Nash was just speaking typical Nash speak.

Stuff like this makes me wonder why I even post..........or care.

Totally agree

Thanks for the new siggy,classic

[WagerWitch]

Wager Witch you are one who keeps harping on and on about Tradition and how you are being ganged up on and your rights and freedom as a webmaster. Geez woman, no one is wanting to burn you at the stake. You've worked yourself into quite a tizzy over not much of nothing.

I started a different thread asking a question, you took it personal, I should have changed the title of my thread in hind sight and now Max merged the threads which makes it a little more confusing. Nash wasn't picking on you, he would have said that to anyone who is defending Tradition/Rival. He does have a bone to pick with Rival and yes he has a right to. Nash was just speaking typical Nash speak.

Stuff like this makes me wonder why I even post..........or care.

OK - maybe I'm sensitive - but I read between the lines and it comes out just like that.

Nash is being sarcastic towards me - whether he admits it or not - and he's being rude. NASH - I personally FEEL that you are being rude to me.

Are you?

Your bone to pick with Rival isn't my bone.

So you shouldn't put me down because I happen to like them.

A lot of people liked them - and some still do.

I believe in the good of people - and the CHANCE at REDEMPTION.

But actually - reading between the lines - watching the wording and the forum play - the bumping of threads... Come on - tell me you don't see it? If it isn't meant - why aren't those people saying: Hey - I'm really sorry you took it that way - I didn't mean it that way... Like you did?

I mean - when I screw up - I'm right there with an apology - and I MEAN that apology... Yanno?

I've had a couple of people asking me why I even bother because this is standard operation for the casinomeister forum.

I told them - because there are some really good people here...

They said - yeah - they're great as long as you agree with them - or until they get bored and need drama.

So - you can take from that what you will. But show me a post where NASH has used that posting style before.. Show me where he has said those kinds of things before... Show me the links and the proof..

And if Nash says he wasn't being sarcastic and rude and not personally attacking me - I'll try very hard to believe him.

Until then - I think he was...

[Webzcas]

Seriously it is NOBODY's Business to tell OTHER people what to do.

I think - and this is JUST my humble opinion: Affiliates should maintain their sites with HONOR.

True or not true?

This should be done on their OWN - and not because someone TELLS them to.

Hi Wagerwitch,

I agree to an extent. However CasinoMeister does get a lot of traffic and by linking to a site from a forum account using the signature facility, does ensure a good number of clickthrus - especially if you are an active member here.

If an affiliate that posts here actively promotes casinos which are rogued on CasinoMeister yet links to their portal/s from their signatures - Then forum members IMO have every right to call the actions of that affiliate webmaster into account. This is predominately a players forum and is not the GPWA.

This is my opinion.

[bb28]

OK - maybe I'm sensitive - but I read between the lines and it comes out just like that.

Nash is being sarcastic towards me - whether he admits it or not - and he's being rude. NASH - I personally FEEL that you are being rude to me.
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I read the 2nd line of your post and I busted out laughing and Nash may kill me for saying it, but my first thought was Nash IS sarcastic, to almost everyone, so you aren't special in that respect. You shouldn't take it personal.
Oh and Nash.......don't get pissed at me for speaking the truth.

I'm going to bed, not reading the rest of this post either...........night all.

[WagerWitch]

Hi Wagerwitch,

I agree to an extent. However CasinoMeister does get a lot of traffic and by linking to a site from a forum account using the signature facility, does ensure a good number of clickthrus - especially if you are an active member here.

If an affiliate that posts here actively promotes casinos which are rogued on CasinoMeister yet links to their portal/s from their signatures - Then forum members IMO have every right to call the actions of that affiliate webmaster into account. This is predominately a players forum and is not the GPWA.

This is my opinion.

Thanks much - I understand - but PLEASE.

LISTEN UP PEOPLE

for goodness sakes READY???

NUMBER ONE:
The Tradition issue is FAIRLY recent - right?

NUMBER TWO:
No one has come out and just nicely PMd me and said - hey - did you know?

NUMBER THREE:
THIS THREAD WASN"T ABOUT ME HAVING TRADITION ON MY SITE...

NUMBER FOUR:
This thread has been comletely derailed into something monstrous and screwed.

NUMBER FIVE:
I CANT TOUCH MY SITE FOR A WEEK.

You guys are acting like the freaking MAFIA...

I mean - what are the other forum rules about DERAILING POSTS?

Hmmm?

You want to stick to that one?

Or how about PERSONAL ATTACKS???

Hmmmmm

Or are rules ONLY good when they serve YOU?

[Webzcas]

To be fair, I haven't seen anything that I would class as a personal attack, but please PM if I have missed something, or report the post in question.

With regards thread derailment. I wouldn't call this a thread jack as such, just a natural progression, threads do naturally morph into other areas.

I agree with you that the Tradition issue is recent. However let me put this to you. If one of the programs you had promoted for years without any problems suddenly stopped paying you your commissions and did a Grand Prive, would you pull them immediately?

This is not a leading question BTW. My reasoning being, that webmasters IMO should keep up to date with what is happening in the industry, they owe it to their players. Also, if you are active on this forum, you should also be up to date with what is happening.

[AussieDave]

This is predominately a players forum and is not the GPWA.

Oh for those that don't know... In a nut shell I told the GPWA to stick my private and public membership on Saturday and I'm no longer a GPWA member. But not before I told them...if I find any casino affiliate promoting rogues and clip joints they're listed on my affiliate rogue list...Man that started a riot...lol

The catalyst is...I'm sick of hearing the usual BS of "you can't tell me what to do with my site crap", from GPWA members (or affiliates in general) who promote rogues and known clip joints. The GPWA is crawling with GPWA Sealed sites but a percentage of these promote rogues.

And 95% (estimate) of GPWA private members agree that any affiliate can promote who they like. Go figure


Cheers



Dave

[WagerWitch]

To be fair, I haven't seen anything that I would class as a personal attack, but please PM if I have missed something, or report the post in question.

With regards thread derailment. I wouldn't call this a thread jack as such, just a natural progression, threads do naturally morph into other areas.

I agree with you that the Tradition issue is recent. However let me put this to you. If one of the programs you had promoted for years without any problems suddenly stopped paying you your commissions and did a Grand Prive, would you pull them immediately?

This is not a leading question BTW. My reasoning being, that webmasters IMO should keep up to date what is happening in the industry, they owe it to their players. Also, if you are active on this forum, you should also be up to date with what is happening.

1) Nash's first post to me is in direct relation to the post I did in the Funeral's one on 3dice frustration.

2) Right now I wouldn't pull a thing (couldn't would be a better word... but in about a week I should be able to... )

3) Realistically - I don't know that answer... I kinda try to believe in the good of people - until they walk all over me. If they stopped paying the commissions, first I would want to find out why - what was going on - and if I found out that it was never going to get paid, and they were crooks completely and PROVEN - without human error - but with ABSOLUTE intention, then I would absolutely pull them.

4) 99% of the people who use my site are NEVER going to deposit.

5) My site is for most people to have fun - and I don't really make that much...

Which was the main reason for the ORIGINAL question...

I am trying to keep up with things - not perfect at it - and never claimed to be.

It would have been nicer to get a PM from someone instead of a PUBLIC roast.

Webczas if you don't see the direct roast - then you didn't read Funeral's thread - and then this one - and how this thread got moved - another thread created - then put back together - then the comments on the 4.4 rule... and so on - in the progression it was placed in.

Sorry - maybe I'm being overly sensitive - but somehow - since it has happened to OTHER people here - I don't think so - yanno? If it was just me - I'd be all ok - cool - just me... But it's happened to several people...

I have even posted some probable not so nice posts myself - but I do learn from my mistakes somewhat (sorry long winded posts are something that are a very part of my foundation - won't be losing those....)

But at least I try.

[johnsteed]

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And if not this permits a gang up action on the forums against affiliates... which truthfully is no ones business and each person should already be acting on their own concious and honor.

They should probably not be forced by ostrization from the masses.

Okay, I'd also like to play in the land of make believe.



No, no one ever gangs up on anyone here. It's a figment of your imagination. You think it's happening, you see it with your own eyes, your best bet is to ignore your intuition, because it's all a mirage. When someone points out 'Forum Rule 4.4', they're doing so with only the best intentions. When people thank each other in the same thread, like 20 times, it's not that they're working together and simply thanking each other and then reading what the other has said later on - if at all - it's that they're promoting the right way of doing things. They're showing you their ethical superiority. They know they're right, so they have the green light to stick it to you. What you can't always see, is their hearts oozing with kindness.

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If it appears that when one of these stacks of pancakes makes a post, and the same bottles of maple syrup are constantly pouring themselves over that stack of pancakes, so much that it's dripping over the side of the plate, just be content with the fact that they're loving it.








Steed


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