SlotOCash, slot configured to 65% payout

[Zoozie]

So how are the payouts altered, weighted reel stop, changed reel strip or least likely changes to the payout table?

The standard way is just to change the reel layout. And I am certain this is how
Rival does it as well. It is also the easiest way in fact and of course doing anything else would mean it was not a video-slot you were playing by definition. (That is SlotLand etc.)

In my slotsimulator you can see two different version of Cleopatra, only the reels are changed, same paytable.

[nisosbar]

No matter what I do, I can not get Slotocash to install - it shuts down and gives me an error code every single time, in the middle of installation. I contacted support which asked me all this detailed information, I gave it to her and she said she'd forward it to technical support and have them get back to me. They never did. Then I tried to contact the rep here sloto but he isn't replying to messages.

Advice?

[chuchu59]

If you are getting this kind of customer service why bother installing them.

[rubyroyal]

Definitely a typo, our game description displays the payout as 95%.

It is the new ISlot Psychedeilic Sixties that was released a few weeks ago.

I feel a little cheated because when this slot was released I played it for some time and it gave me a good turnaround (lost deposit eventually). At that time the payout was published to 95%.It felt like a medium variance slot which gives some decent playtime for your money. However in the last week I have made 4 deposit and money was gone like never seen before. (No feature in 4 deposits!).

I do know quite a lot about luck and variance of slots and bad runs so I believe I just had a very very bad run. But then I checked the help page. It is configured to 65% payout. I like Rival software because they publish payout% for each slot, very fair software.. However I believe SlotOcash got a little too greedy with this configuration. Also it is unethical to change the slot so drastic without any notification since people believe they know what they are playing. 65% payout is even illegal in many juristictions (and it should be!)

Check last line in the screenshot

[deucebag]

Definitely a typo, our game description displays the payout as 95%.

Can Rival operators configure the slots payback, or is it all the same across all Rival casinos?

I find this "typo" explanation worrying, if it alows the casino to set the software to a certain percentage payback, and write something else on the help page.

I like the fact that Rival publishes the payback, but it is a little pointless if we can't trust whether it is accurate information.

[rubyroyal]

Rival operators can absolutely NOT configure the payouts of any of its games. All the operator can change are the bet limits per a game.

To me, its obvious this is a typo/mistake, a slot actually paying out 65% is ludicrous and would not go un-noticed . I have seen it before with some of our games where there was a typo within the game description files and its just a matter of correcting the text..

Can Rival operators configure the slots payback, or is it all the same across all Rival casinos?

I find this "typo" explanation worrying, if it alows the casino to set the software to a certain percentage payback, and write something else on the help page.

I like the fact that Rival publishes the payback, but it is a little pointless if we can't trust whether it is accurate information.

[Boris303]

Rival operators can absolutely NOT configure the payouts of any of its games. All the operator can change are the bet limits per a game.

To me, its obvious this is a typo/mistake, a slot actually paying out 65% is ludicrous and would not go un-noticed . I have seen it before with some of our games where there was a typo within the game description files and its just a matter of correcting the text..

Thanks for the update, but can i just say i would have thought given the amount of updates this casino software seems to introduce on a very regular basis, that one of them would include an update on this obvious typo?

[KasinoKing]

Thanks for the update, but can i just say i would have thought given the amount of updates this casino software seems to introduce on a very regular basis, that one of them would include an update on this obvious typo?

This is an old thread - it was updated ages ago.
Though they now say the return is 95%...

KK

[nisosbar]

If you are getting this kind of customer service why bother installing them.

Actually, I sent the rep here an email, and she got back to me pronto - I followed her advice and got the software up and running. Apparently, the file I downloaded initially had been corrupted and when I tried to install it, it blocked every subsequent installation which I would attempt. I had to manually delete some of these files, and this solved the issue and got it working.

[vinylweatherman]

Yes, the Rival casino-managers can do that. So it is very useful that the software reveals the payout%. Even at slotocash I have seen same slot very often switch between 93,94,95 and 96%. (Scary Rich). In the start the payout
was published with 2 digits as well as 94.23% etc.

How can this be if:-

Rival operators can absolutely NOT configure the payouts of any of its games. All the operator can change are the bet limits per a game.

To me, its obvious this is a typo/mistake, a slot actually paying out 65% is ludicrous and would not go un-noticed . I have seen it before with some of our games where there was a typo within the game description files and its just a matter of correcting the text..

Just WHO is CONSTANTLY messing with the Rival slots

As for 65% obviously being a typo because otherwise someone would notice.

Well Zoozie noticed something, which prompted this thread in the first place.

I feel a little cheated because when this slot was released I played it for some time and it gave me a good turnaround (lost deposit eventually). At that time the payout was published to 95%.It felt like a medium variance slot which gives some decent playtime for your money. However in the last week I have made 4 deposit and money was gone like never seen before. (No feature in 4 deposits!).

Could the "typo" have been an erroneous setting of the SLOT to near 65%, rather than the wrong figure in the rules. This may have been noticed by Rival (we'll never get away with this), and corrected soon after.

ANY software brand that CONSTANTLY alters the RTP of EXISTING games leaves itself wide open to these kinds of accusation, since players CANNOT trust that the slot they played today, will be the same game in terms of design tomorrow, and so they will be forever looking for signs that the slot has been "tweaked", and will quickly come to the conclusion that ANY bad run is due to the slot having been changed to a lower RTP, rather than simply being the result of unusually bad luck.