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Eurolinx removal from Accredited List

The Dude

The artist formally known as Casinomeister
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Just in case you were wondering what I've been pretty much focused on the past week or so, there was a PAB that I was dealing with (that was played out at the 2+2 Forums) and it didn't turn out so well for either player or casino.

You can read one of many threads here:
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I've removed Eurolinx from the Accredited Section and Microgaming is looking into this. Just so you know.
 
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Bryan, I would assume that it's the poker room you are talking about and not the casino (unless it's the flash version in the poker room) since you stated that Microgaming would be involved. The Eurolinx casino is not powered by MG.

Correction: I visited the site just now and the casino is now powered by MG. Funny, I never received any notice from them on the change in software for the casino since joining them several months ago.
 
Bryan, I would assume that it's the poker room you are talking about and not the casino (unless it's the flash version in the poker room) since you stated that Microgaming would be involved. The Eurolinx casino is not powered by MG.
Eurolinx is a MGS licensee, and MGS are already looking into this.
 
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Eurolinx

Bryan, I would assume that it's the poker room you are talking about and not the casino (unless it's the flash version in the poker room) since you stated that Microgaming would be involved. The Eurolinx casino is not powered by MG.

Correction: I visited the site just now and the casino is now powered by MG. Funny, I never received any notice from them on the change in software for the casino since joining them several months ago.

The issue is not with the poker or casino part, but the ability of the site to process payouts.

MG is involved because they are the licensor for the poker software, which is integrated with a casino portion.

Cliffnotes: Eurolinx has TWO casino provider, one for a download version (MG), and a Java version (Net Entertainment, I believe).
 
The issue is not with the poker or casino part, but the ability of the site to process payouts.

MG is involved because they are the licensor for the poker software, which is integrated with a casino portion.

Cliffnotes: Eurolinx has TWO casino provider, one for a download version (MG), and a Java version (Net Entertainment, I believe).

Since you are here, I wonder whether you can explain why you offered a percentage of your money to the casinomeister if he ruled in your favour. That may be too naive a question though.
 
This issue has finally inspired me to open an account here. I'm a mod over at 2+2, and the massive threads on the issue there have led me here. I'd like to thank CM for taking the time to post an explanation at 2+2.

I'm curious as to the reasoning behind CM's decision to take EL off their accredited list. I'm assuming there's a good reason for it, but I didn't see much in the "ruling". Is there something more to the story, or is this decision based solely on what CM posted at 2+2?
 
This issue has finally inspired me to open an account here. I'm a mod over at 2+2, and the massive threads on the issue there have led me here. I'd like to thank CM for taking the time to post an explanation at 2+2.

I'm curious as to the reasoning behind CM's decision to take EL off their accredited list. I'm assuming there's a good reason for it, but I didn't see much in the "ruling". Is there something more to the story, or is this decision based solely on what CM posted at 2+2?

Bobo,

Hi there!!!

Are you stalking me?

:confused:
 
I like to share the wealth.

:lolup:
@ BigRounder

2+2 has their own forum, and it's great for you to be able to post freely and spew whatever you want to spew over there. But when you bring the spewage over here - I need to remind you - you are on my turf.
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For everyone else:

I removed Eurolinx from the accredited section because they did not provide me with evidence that these wires were processed. I don't believe the wires were initiated. This is an issue that I've requested their software provider to look into since it's beyond my realm.

But why did I step away from this issue like I did? It's because of the player's actions that I found to be inappropriate and down right unethical.

The player manipulates the truth to his own means. There have been several times that he has been caught in a lie. For instance his initial complaint:

On March 24th, I requested a wire withdrawal of my balance of $145,000. I was told the wire would take 2-7 business days, and received an email confirmation from Lydia, the VIP manager, that my wire would hit my bank on April 3rd. Nothing arrived on April 3rd, and the Owner and CEO of Eurolinx, Jo Remme promised to "put a trace" on it (which he did not). He then emailed me early Friday morning and advise me that "there is a slight delay or 1-2 days", which would mean the wire should arrive no later then today (Monday, April 7th).

On Friday even, Jo Remme, offers to "advance" me and credit my poker account $245,000. Hmm, strange, has anyone else ever received an "advance" from any MicroGaming site, especially in the amount of 1/4 of a million? I accepted, and in a matter of 12 hours lost the entire amount.

Here is an excerpt from a chat session:

[21:21:52]
info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
[21:21:58]
info: You are now chatting with 'Jackie'
[21:22:02]
Jackie: Hello. How may I assist you?
[21:22:07]
bigrounder: im gonna nend 65k more please
[21:22:36]
Jackie: One moment please.
[21:23:09]
bigrounder: ASAP
[21:23:18]
bigrounder: that'll be 145k, the amount of the wire,
[21:24:20]
Jackie: Ok, done.

Bigrounder says this is "doctored" or perhaps it's not "badgering" since that is a subjective term. How about "demanding". Perhaps that's a better way of describing his behaviour. :rolleyes:

Bigrounder feels his criminal past has nothing to do with the present - it has everything to do with it. Especially when truthfulness and veracity play a major role. Bigrounder is no Wesley Snipes - you can not downplay this incident as a case of tax avoidance (like he has at 2+2):

Removed court documentation

You may wonder why this has anything to do with his case with Eurolinx - it has everything to do with it - he has set a pattern with his behavior.

When I agreed to take this matter on, I told this player to quit posting in the forums. He disregarded this request and continued to post freely - including posting our private messages. I should have dropped the case right then and there.

He also decided to try and cut a deal with the casino without my knowledge - stating he I was about to rule in his favor. I had not given the player any indication that I was about to make any ruling in his favor. But he decided to contact the casino with some bullshit:

Visitor: ok, here's the offer, good for today only. I will accept a wire from you in the amount of $100,000 (a discount of $45,020) to be sent on Monday, to be received no later then Thursday.

Visitor: The meister is about to rule in my favor, and if that is still up the air, after I provide additional info that I have obtained, it will be indisputable.

Manager: Please stop wasting my time

He also went further to impersonate the casino operator via a yahoo email account and contacted the bank. It was at this point that I made the decision to pull out of this mess.

I don't feel that this player can grasp what the real problem is here - it's his greed. If he hadn't demanded that the casino front him cash advances so that he could foolishly gamble it away, he wouldn't have this problem.

I've spent an incredible amount of time trying to assist both player and casino on this matter. The player has proven to be a thankless person who is only concerned about himself. At least the casino operator had the fortitude to apologize to me in private.

@Bigrounder - why not wire the 100k to a charity located here.
https://www.casinomeister.com/donate/

And then get off the message boards and contemplate what the hell you're doing with your life. Thanks!
 
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Forget candidate, we have our 2007 Evil Player award right here.

and:

Originally Posted by chuchu59 View Post
Since you are here, I wonder whether you can explain why you offered a percentage of your money to the casinomeister if he ruled in your favour. That may be too naive a question though.

Apparently he tried to bribe Bryan as well...:rolleyes:
 
Awesome, I was waiting for the next beefy issue to happen, the last was AP poker and we had a dry spell where everyone was playing nice but give it a few weeks and you get a nice juicy story like this to read.

I feel bad for Bryan, us regulars know how much time and effort you put into your work and to have this wanker treat you like he has would really piss me off.
 
Awesome, I was waiting for the next beefy issue to happen, the last was AP poker and we had a dry spell where everyone was playing nice but give it a few weeks and you get a nice juicy story like this to read.

I feel bad for Bryan, us regulars know how much time and effort you put into your work and to have this wanker treat you like he has would really piss me off.

Wow, I'm truly humbled that my situation can be compared to the "Great Ripoff by AP in 2007.

BTW---I applied for superuser accounts at both AP and UB, but was denied, as I was told I don't have enough crook experience.

PS--Bryan, I'm sorry I offended you, if you would like me to send a reasonable donation to a charity of your choice in your name (for a reasonable amount, not $100k, around $10-20k, please PM me at 2+2).
 
Forget candidate, we have our 2007 Evil Player award right here.

and:



Apparently he tried to bribe Bryan as well...:rolleyes:

Yes, i did try to bribe Bryan (ok, you'all happy I used to word "bribe" instead of "contingency fee").

Bottom line, I personally felt, I had an extremely strong dispute with Eurolinx, and I was in the right, but as Bryan wrote in his decision on 2+2, "a debt is a debt", which I knew and strongly suspected the decision would come down based on this premise.

I don't like to lose, so I felt an incentive was not fully out of the realm.

I am a bit saddened that issues that are way out of context have been brought out in the matter.

BTW--I'm actually a worse guy then I appear to be, I cheated on a math test in 10th grade, and I even had pre-marital sex with my fiance (once).
 
Yes, i did try to bribe Bryan (ok, you'all happy I used to word "bribe" instead of "contingency fee").

Bottom line, I personally felt, I had an extremely strong dispute with Eurolinx, and I was in the right, but as Bryan wrote in his decision on 2+2, "a debt is a debt", which I knew and strongly suspected the decision would come down based on this premise.

I don't like to lose, so I felt an incentive was not fully out of the realm.

I am a bit saddened that issues that are way out of context have been brought out in the matter.

BTW--I'm actually a worse guy then I appear to be, I cheated on a math test in 10th grade, and I even had pre-marital sex with my fiance (once).


That's funny, I had pre-marital sex with your fiance too!
 
Yes, i did try to bribe Bryan (ok, you'all happy I used to word "bribe" instead of "contingency fee").

Any way you want to word it, offering any sort of compensation for someone to rule in your favor is still a bribe. If you tried that with a judge, you'd be in jail by now.


@Yoda: This isn't grade school....
 
Admin note

Removed the specific US Fed court documentation to protect the player's identity.

Side note - if you want to stay anonymous in Cyberland, stay off the message boards.
 
I removed Eurolinx from the accredited section because they did not provide me with evidence that these wires were processed. I don't believe the wires were initiated. This is an issue that I've requested their software provider to look into since it's beyond my realm.
Do you expect to hear back from Microgaming on this issue, and if you do, will you be reporting anything back here?
 
Hmmmm, Eurolinx giving players the run around again... Might be something to watch for.

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Have you come here because of the recommendation of the last poster to that thread on twoplustwo?

I had a look, and it seems that players are getting paid, but those delays are HUGE, and looks very much like they are juggling their cash.

Given MGS's "you're on your own" approach to the TUSK poker skins, the behaviour of Eurolinx in refusing to communicate about this issue is going to cause them problems.
If they have that MGS casino, that would be less of a worry.
 
I am the last poster :).

This is just concerning to me as some of my bankroll is at this site. They need to say larger xfers may take longer or something to that effect instead of giving the run around to the players.

Lydia or someone at Eurolinx has always come through for me before when I had problems though. I assume it is just liquidity problems, but like you said after the whole MGS thing one never knows.
 
I am the last poster :).

This is just concerning to me as some of my bankroll is at this site. They need to say larger xfers may take longer or something to that effect instead of giving the run around to the players.

Lydia or someone at Eurolinx has always come through for me before when I had problems though. I assume it is just liquidity problems, but like you said after the whole MGS thing one never knows.

You could try PM'ing her through here, but she hasn't been here since May 8 by the looks of it. I seriously hope all you guys get your money, that's alot of cash we're talking about (I glanced at the 2+2 thread). If the issue carries on with no resolution or contact, I would suggest that those waiting for payment use the PAB service here, and see what Max and/or Bryan can find out.

Link to Lydia's member page:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/
 
You could try PM'ing her through here, but she hasn't been here since May 8 by the looks of it. I seriously hope all you guys get your money, that's alot of cash we're talking about (I glanced at the 2+2 thread). If the issue carries on with no resolution or contact, I would suggest that those waiting for payment use the PAB service here, and see what Max and/or Bryan can find out.

Link to Lydia's member page:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

This is the worry. They should be all over this issue before it blows up in their faces, yet at such a time of strife, it seems all persons responsible for communication have gone missing.

Unfortunately, the MG casino is a "casino within poker", rather than a stand alone casino, otherwise I would have suggested this (may be useful in future).

Transfer everything into the MGS CASINO, leaving the poker skin empty. So far NO PLAYER has lost funds in an MG CASINO that has gone bust, but as shown in the TUSK case, this does NOT apply to poker skins.

In the TUSK case, the CASINOS were transferred to Casino Rewards, and players eventually got access to 100% of what they had in the casino, however, poker players may only get a fraction back, and may have a long wait even for this.

If Eurolinx are NOT doing any "juggling", or having liquidity problems, they really should start communicating with players, affiliates, and forums where they have a presence.
 
Eurolinx Lydia informed me via PM (on 2p2) she no longer works for Eurolinx.


That is really bad news Blue Control. Thanks for updating us. Bryan is on holiday right now, but hopefully we can remember to update him on this as well.

How are your mates at 2+2 coming along with their cashouts...any progress? Or are things still stalled? Please remind anyone who is still having problems that this site offers a PAB (Pitch A Bitch) service, free of charge. Just ask them to read the rules before they make any posts, etc.
 
Eurolinx Out of Business---Turns out to be HUGE SCAM

Amazing how Eurolinx goes from a top rated, accredited casino (here on the CM site), then downgraded, after my fiasco in 2008, to turning out to be a full blown Ponzi scheme.

The irony of it all----I win the 2008 Evil Player award for my interaction with this highly touted and well respected site, and, the 2009 Evil operator, IMHO, should go to Eurolinx.
 
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Many casino go from good to bad over time (change in management, change in policies, etc). Some even go from bad to good. What a casino is today doesn't necessarily have much at all to do with who they were a year or two or ago, hence the downgrades.
 
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hi there,
i won a seat in the microgaming tourney "grand slam" through linx casino but it looks like its shut down the seat is worth $150 how do i get it transfered or not??
 

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