should I join casinofortune.com, mapau.com (owned by sunny group)

**tomcruise3230** · 10th January 2007, 09:08 PM

In the rouge casino section this is written about them:

Software provider: Cytech?
Licensing Jurisdiction: Antigua
Added 16 November 2006

What's up with the Sunny Group?
These guys have been in business for years and are one of the pioneers of online gaming. But even so, the Sunny Group knows better. Over the past couple of months there have been a number of complaints that were submitted at Casinomeister, but the operator and his managers have remained silent. Most of these player problems concern non-payments.
(More info or customer problems in detail: http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/rogue.php)

They still accept usa players but have different software provided for usa players which is glasseye that is provided by stars software (couldn't find any info by googling). when i asked via live help where i can find info or website address for stars software they say it is down and wouldn't tell me their website address (i told them my email address so they can tell me in the future, if that ever happens..). Its like they are hidding something. When i told them about the complains from customers about non-payment and no response, they said those members didn't follow terms and condition and bonuses rules so the payment wouldn't be carried out. I don't know about that. What i want to know is should i Join one of their casinos and where i can find more info on this stars software or glasseye (provided by stars software). any Info will help!

**Pinababy69** · 10th January 2007, 09:12 PM

Given that you are already in possession of the facts, and of the opinion of this site's owner, why would you even CONSIDER playing there?

**tomcruise3230** · 10th January 2007, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Pinababy69

Given that you are already in possession of the facts, and of the opinion of this site's owner, why would you even CONSIDER playing there?

thats because they are only the few ones that accept usa players from new york. therefore can you give me more info please

**winbig** · 10th January 2007, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by tomcruise3230

thats because they are only the few ones that accept usa players from new york. therefore can you give me more info please

They're rogued. Enough said. I'm sure you can find someone else out there.

Playing there is definitely not "gambling". You'll give their money to them. If you win, you won't get a thing. If you bust, you'll probably deposit again.

Either way, they're going to keep your money.

**tomcruise3230** · 10th January 2007, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by winbig

They're rogued. Enough said. I'm sure you can find someone else out there.

Playing there is definitely not "gambling". You'll give their money to them. If you win, you won't get a thing. If you bust, you'll probably deposit again.

Either way, they're going to keep your money.

Well i want opinion from people who played with them recently if u didn't. Also, they wereone of the pioneers on online gaming since 1998, maybe this complains by customers aren't 100% true since they might have abused bonuses or term and condition (I don't know about that much since i am new to casino). So if anyone knows about them from personal experience please don't hesitate to let me know!

**winbig** · 10th January 2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by tomcruise3230

Well i want opinion from people who played with them recently if u didn't. Also, they wereone of the pioneers on online gaming since 1998, maybe this complains by customers aren't 100% true since they might have abused bonuses or term and condition (I don't know about that much since i am new to casino). So if anyone knows about them from personal experience please don't hesitate to let me know!

Go read the complaints section and PAB section regarding all of the RECENT and Legitimate players that they have stiffed. It's not like they were rogued a long time ago.

I guess I'm talking to a brick wall here. If you want to donate your money to them, go right ahead.

**Pinababy69** · 10th January 2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by tomcruise3230

thats because they are only the few ones that accept usa players from new york. therefore can you give me more info please

Intertops accept all US players, they are Microgaming, and accredited here.

Hype Gaming accepts all US players, not accredited, but the members seem happy with their games. They HAVE had some issues of late with delayed payout of withdrawals.

ClubWorld/ClubUSA accept all US players, they are RTG, and are accredited here.

That's just off the top of my head. Check the accredited list of casinos (link found at top of forum). I'm sure you can find a decent casino there that would meet your needs.

**tomcruise3230** · 10th January 2007, 09:23 PM

The thing is I want to join a casino that has roulette where you can spin without betting (ex joyland.com (don't accept usa), mahau.com, sunvegas.com (don't accept usa players from NY where i from)) then spin whenever you want later on so on (just play their demo or instant play roulette games and you will see what i mean (pyramidcasino has it, so you will know what i mean)

**jetset** · 10th January 2007, 09:36 PM

Have you googled these? It could be BS to throw you off the track.

This was a really good group at one time but sadly they have declined, screwing players around too frequently and running some ridiculously dodgy PR and marketing stunts.

Good on you for researching, but the ultimate decision is yours....and there are experienced players here offering their advice to help ensure you don't get ripped.

**soflat** · 10th January 2007, 09:40 PM

There were a LOT of complaints, and they were recent (October - December).

Search the forum for Mapau. You will see they have non-payment issues and they do not respond to players (and obviously potential players). I believe the complaints were legitimate.

Whatever you are trying to do with roulette, I wouldn't do it at those casinos.