The whole PAB system is broken in my opinion

[Simmo!]

That's a major generalization - every day there are a LOT of people who are members here who have contrary viewpoints to iNetBet, they're not gagged unless they become abusive about it.

Excellently put. Most of the major issues here could be dealt with quickly and fairly but too many posters either deliberately or unknowingly post abusively/confrontationally or with a lack of respect. That in turn riles others and human nature automatically puts those who feel attacked on the defensive or less willing to co-operate.

This thread is a good example. As the OP states, it was partly motivated out of bittereness and as the PAB service is a free service, obviously those that provide the PAB service are going to be a tad annoyed. I'm not saying the topic shouldn't be discussed but just read the thread and you can see many posts which will upset other people either accidentally or deliberately.

On the Original Topic:

As with 90% of the world's problems, ineffective communication is either the root of the problem or makes a problem worse. But as Max and others state, you can't give out information that might make fraudsters more aware of how they get caught. It's not just the casino's problem either. Every legit player here is a suffering because of fraudsters - sounds like Nothappy has too but sometimes innocent parties will get caught in the net. IMO people shouldn't be attacking the processes put in place to deal with these selfish people, they should be attacking the fraudulent players themselves (metaphorically, obviously!).

[Casinomeister]

I hope that the readership here is starting to put things together. How certain posters seem to complain about the same issues.

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. This goes for a few participants in this thread. Just food for thought for the weekend.

[chayton]

Just a quick look at the PAB summary for 2010 shows that in 2010, out of 276 cases, only 13 were flagged as fraudulent players, and 33 casinos were rogued or pending rogue. If Bryan is siding with the casinos over the players, he's not doing it right.

Total value of resolved cases 2010: $242K and change.
Total value of resolved cases 2009: $459,512
Total value of resolved cases 2008: $450K

That doesn't seem broken to me.

[Westland Bowl]

To me, it's simple. Just regulate the card drawing to third-party government agency to ensure truly random results. I like land casinos better because you can see the cards and those cards aren't moving around by themselves in the shoe in response to my betting strategy. I don't trust online casinos with hidden cards.

[chayton]

Greasemonkey had a question I'd like answered as well. It's the term "collusion" - I understand if you're playing multiplayer table games, but how does that relate to slot play?

Every time I log into a casino they have somewhere a link or banner that says "REFER your friends!" and so they want you to tell people you know. But then if someone you know signs up and you say, "I played such-and-such a game today and I was getting tons of features" and then they go play that same game and win, does that classify as collusion?

I remember awhile back, MG had just recently added that Pharaoh game (name escapes me sorry) where you get the three scarabs to get the feature and then you have to pick the correct sarcophagus to continue on. I saw on some forum somewhere that someone said there was a specific order that you could pick them to guarantee that you'd reach the end. Well I guess that people who were reading that forum were trying it and some people were complaining that their accounts got closed. This is just hearsay - I didn't know any of those people so I don't know if it was just talk.

I suppose if it was true, if there was a bug that someone found out about and exploited and told others how to do it, then I can understand collusion between slot players. But if there are no bugs and the games are truly random, I don't get it.

[brucake]

Greasemonkey had a question I'd like answered as well. It's the term "collusion" - I understand if you're playing multiplayer table games, but how does that relate to slot play?

Every time I log into a casino they have somewhere a link or banner that says "REFER your friends!" and so they want you to tell people you know. But then if someone you know signs up and you say, "I played such-and-such a game today and I was getting tons of features" and then they go play that same game and win, does that classify as collusion?

Why is the whole inetbet situation being A) unanswered and B) swept under the rug?

I have just read all of these posts and it is just unfathomable how much they are being protected by this site. It is MADDENING that they are being given the green light and all the pointed questions are ignored. What the???

Some pretty basic questions are going completely ignored. That is just odd. The inetbet thread was locked. Now people are asking about the alicek situation in particular and it is being ignored and brushed aside. Yes, the PAB is free but it is a big reason that people come here and bryan can charge casinos to advertise here. That being said, it certainly appears that there is some sort of collusion with inetbet as they were proved to be falsifying things that they had said and fraud is nonsensical in the alicek situation, she wasnt even using a bonus and she sent in docs verified by gambling grumbles. So we just ignore this? We also kick alicek out of the forum before she can post and lock the thread?
If alicek or any other person can be guilty just because it could possibly look like someone could/might/chance to be fraud with no proof then certainly we are free to say that inetbet and this site have a collusion. The evidence leans more towards that then alicek being fraud. By not answering the questions, brushing off the fact that they falsified information and minimizing that then locking the thread it sure makes one think that way.

All of these threads would be avoided if the questions were addressed directly and not sidestepped and hidden then left to have the members here forget about it.
Just answer the questions or say that you can't. Ignoring just makes it look worse.

[brucake]

I hope that the readership here is starting to put things together. How certain posters seem to complain about the same issues.

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. This goes for a few participants in this thread. Just food for thought for the weekend.

instead of innuendos like this why not just answer all the questions being asked on the threads about some things that seem very suspicious? This does nothing more than bury the situation and make people frustrated with lack of answering.

[maxd]

Why is the whole inetbet situation being A) unanswered and B) swept under the rug?... Ignoring just makes it look worse.

Or it could just mean that (a) the questions have already been answered and (b) see (a).

Choosing not to debate this further may simply mean we have better things to do than respond to groundless accusations and PITA innuendos.

[LaHutti]

Wow!

[maxd]

Wow!

"Wow!" what? AFAICT the guy is talking BS.