Bad members

[catrina m]

I have read both threads dealing with this issue.

Rusty was indeed a valuable member. Not just for his insights but his involvement. ( sheep quiz was time consuming I would imagine). There can be no replacement for him.

JHV, You have stated you want to be considered as a valuable member, and indeed you are.

Infighting and insinuations should not be a part of this community. I am guilty myself of taking defense if I do not feel the post's take my side.


I am but one of many that make this the BEST message board on the internet. Good or bad.

Bryan is the reason it is here and deserves respect for dedicating a great deal of his life to this. The mods here also deserve the same respect.

Members come and members go but this message board will always be here until the casinomeister says goodbye.

[JHV]

I think it's time to get over the "they banned me but not them" thing. It reminds me of the story of a guy speeding on the freeway, along with everybody else, when he gets pulled over. The cop writes him a ticket. The guy accepts this and as the cop begins to walk away the guy asks, "Say, why me? Why'd you pull me over and not the others?" The cop says, "Do you ever go fishing?" They guy replies, "Yes." The cop says, "Do you ever catch all the fish?"

So sorry we didn't ban everyone in the thread that responded to your response. Apparently, you stood out more than the others - like the guy speeding. But again, like I've stated before, your suspension was lifted - no problem. So let's move on and quit worrying about it, okay? Thanks!

Point taken.

Genuinely wasn't trying to stir the pot, more look for where I went wrong. But point taken and great analogy...!

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I try to get my friends to ask occasional policemen if he's "that guy from the Village People" but haven't found a friend foolish enough yet. Am not giving up hope though...


(Edit: I try often to Multi-Quote and never able to - yet somehow fluke it that time unintentionally.)

[KasinoKing]

(Edit: I try often to Multi-Quote and never able to - yet somehow fluke it that time unintentionally.)

I suspect I know what the problem is there;
Say you want to "Multi-Quote" 4 posts - what you have to do is hit the "Multi-Quote" button on the first 3, and then the "Quote" button on the last one.

KK

[maxd]

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Selecting the posts via "Multi-Quote" and then hitting the "Post Reply" button works too. I think that's the way I usually do it.
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[jetset]

JHV - my perception - and I could obviously be quite wrong - is that you tend to play the victim to some extent in your exchanges and occasional jokey back-offs, whereas I know Max personally as a pretty grounded character.

Anyway, that's all water under the bridge and here you are posting again - testimony to the reasonable approach taken by the guys running the show here.

Regarding alternative routes, I have productively (not always so, I admit) used direct interaction with the operator; communicating with reputable affiliates associated with the operator; 'some' of the better licensing jurisdictions; media pressure and discussion with the better software providers.

All can be successful avenues in attempting to solve individual player disputes without the complexities of expensive litigation or public chest thumping.

Trying to change corporate practices and cultures for the better is definitely commendable but probably a longer term project requiring considerably more coordination, participation and effort than voluminous posts on forums and berating other members for not sharing your activism.

The influence of this site and the direct and personal intervention of its respected webmaster alone has probably solved more issues than you are likely to encounter.

There is almost certainly common purpose with your ideals, but perhaps other members have reasons for staying within their own comfort zones and handling their own issues....and they have that personal right as members here.

I believe that people visit forums in pursuit of knowledge, social contact, perhaps to seek revenge or air a grievance, or find advice and assistance relevant to what is for most a leisure activity, and that may be why you perceive different viewpoints or a lack of response as 'apathy'.

Forums are valuable vehicles and can make a difference, and there is no doubt that timely warnings at sites like this have alerted many a player about the bad buggers in this industry and hopefully steered them away from same. That in itself is a major attribute.

But members are here voluntarily and have the right to make their own decisions and decide their own courses of action based on the information which other members and the site provides.

Persuasion often works better than zealotry.

Regarding your dilemma with upbraiding other members you perceive to be acting unethically, as a first step there is always the PM system, but a polite debate is not impossible even on such thorny issues - it's the way you present your argument that counts.