Club Player Casino is charging me $3,000+ to withdraw my winnings

[acepedro45]

Club Player Casino is at it again. Not content with robbing me of a year's worth of interest on $160,000, they are attempting to impose a grotesque $75 dollar fee on every player withdrawal. In my case, the fees will add up to more than $3,000! It is beyond belief to me that the casino would attempt to confiscate $3,000 of my winnings in light of the history I have with them, but that is exactly what they are doing.

With hundreds of dollars in fees already assessed and 39 remaining payments at $75/ea., I have been complaining unceasingly to Club Player, but told monotonously that there are no exceptions to their fee schedule. Cynthia Wilkins, winner of CasinoMeister's prestigious Worst Casino Manager award, informs me that bank wire transfers are now the casino's sole option to pay U.S. players.

I protested to no avail that if the casino not wasted an entire YEAR with their childish delaying tactics, the balance would be retired by now and there would be no need to resort to costly wire transfers.

For those who haven't heard the incredible story of my original enormous win at Club Player and my battle to collect my winnings on this forum, here's the link:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-350-20-a.html

It's especially distressing to me to resort to the forum after many tranquil months with Club Player. Since they were Rogued and then restored to the site's good graces back in August, my payments have been timely and the casino has responded respectfully and professionally to all my queries.

It just goes to show you can take the casino out of the Rogue List, but you can't take the rogue out of the casino.

[acepedro45]

Hello Cynthia,

I wanted to let you know that I am not going to accept the casino's imposition of a $75 fee on every withdrawal from this point on. With the amount of money you owe me, the fees will add up to over $3,000. I ask that you refund the fees that you have deducted so far, and provide free withdrawals until the balance in my playing account is retired.

The online gambling community simply will not tolerate such outrageous fees from your casino, especially given my playing history with your casino. Tomorrow, I will publicly make my case on the Casinomeister forum and your casino will again suffer from a backlash of negative publicity. I predict that ultimately Club Player will capitulate and end up refunding the fees.

To recap, let me spell out your options for you. You can:

A. Refund the exorbitant withdrawal fees to my account.

or

B. Force me to publicly humiliate your operation and then refund the exorbitant withdrawal fees when the public outcry damages your reputation (and bottom line).

Since in either case, you will likely end up refunding the fees, let me make a suggestion: save me the aggravation and save yourself the damage to your rep. Why don't we solve this issuer privately, constructively, and profitably instead of thrashing it out on the forum?

I look forward to hearing from you.

[Swede]

Horrid. $75 is more than a door-to-door overnight delivery to and from everywhere in the world.

[silcnlayc]

The online gambling community simply will not tolerate such outrageous fees from your casino,

I beg to differ on this, for I would happily pay these fees to receive my winnings in the amount of $160,000.

If , as you say, they already have been rogued once, what makes you think that your threats would worry them, especially in a forum? Do you think they care what is said about them when they have been on the list once, that just showed they don't already.

To receive $160,000 as you state, for a $3000 fee is NOT outrageous. What would be outrageous is paying 28% - 33% taxes (which comes to over $50,000 to the government) on this win, that you say you won. Now THAT is outrageous and we , in America do it every day when we win anything over $600 for a $1 bet or $1199 for a $2 bet...getting the picture? And you being in the good ole USA KNOW this and yet your screaming over a lousy $3000????

If they indeed have been paying you in installments, then I say, good for you, but to come here and bash them over such a small fee for such a large sum of money to be transferred on a regular basis and to keep the installments coming, it takes a lot of paperwork and manpower and cost in these transfers. I pay anywhere from $25-$50 doing business transfers every day, so it is not unreasonable.

I would be screaming if the installments had STOPPED, not because I was charged such a small fee....geezes...talk about shooting yourself in the foot with the post like yours...

[mikepipe]

>I ll try to bring you to an alternative idea:

Why dont you just wait, until you have been paid out 100% and then report that club player casino has done its duty.
Please: Seriously- - dont mention these fees.
It smells ridiculous to most of the forum members. (I am quite sure).

[acepedro45]

I invite you to read as much of my story as you can stomach from my previous thread. You might also find Bryan's webcast from July instructive. He discusses my situation at the 25 minute mark.

As CM and many other respected posters on this forum have agreed, Club Player's conduct during this entire ordeal has been deplorable. Only the intervention of the CM and the traffic on this forum has kept their operation from essentially stealing $160,000 from me in the first place (by paying at such a slow rate the value of the $160,000 would be diminished to a small fraction of its net present value).

These people didn't win the Worst Casino Management by accident. They treat their players like dirt. I realize that because I had such a huge win, I run the risk of sounding ungrateful when I complain about the speed of the payment.

But let's make one thing clear: the casino is not doing me a favor by paying me the money they owe me. I am not asking for anything outrageous when I ask for the money on time and without these strings attached.

As a side note, overseas wires are monitored pretty closely in the US, especially in post 9/11 conditions. I have owned up to all of my gambling income on my tax returns.

[phynqster]

I am sure the casino would compromise with players on fees. Instead of getting lets say 2500 per week with a 75.00 fee each week, what if the casino just sent a single 10000 monthly payment with 1 single fee. This way the player saves on fees and the casino still is paying out the same monthly amount?

[sdaddy]

acepedro,

Don't be deterred by the naysayers. You were absolutely right to come here and complain about this latest outrage by Club Player Casino. First of all, as you pointed out, it's their own damn fault that they wasted the opportunity to pay by less costly methods when they were still available. The player, especially one that's been put through the hell that you have, should not have to pay that price. Second, the interest they already collected on your unpaid winnings should more than cover any costs to pay your bank wire installments.

This is pure and simple just another money grab by these clowns. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

[siriuscirrus]

I understand where you are coming from Pedro. It's like adding salt already to the wounds.

[siriuscirrus]

I am sure the casino would compromise with players on fees. Instead of getting lets say 2500 per week with a 75.00 fee each week, what if the casino just sent a single 10000 monthly payment with 1 single fee. This way the player saves on fees and the casino still is paying out the same monthly amount?

In a perfect RTG casino paying world would that ever happen. These casinos will do whatever they can to stall or use other tactics.

I believe these casinos have the money to do that and could probably payout everything in one lump sum. Never will happen and never will.