Class 1 Casino don't pay my winning!

[bb28]

Would a player who had a real legitimate complaint threaten this kind of dirty deed?
I don't think so...........
Quote:
Hi,

I have prepared for my DDoS-Attack against your Web- and Game-Server. I want to point out that banning the IP-Address of my ISP is not going to provide you any safety against the DDoS (Distributed Denial-of-Service) attack. I have hundreds of servers with a strong connection at hand. Your Web- and Game-Server will breakdown under the burden of hundreds of thousands of requests per second. The attack will start not later than in 48 hours and will last for 3 consecutive days. After that I will give you another chance to pay your debt of €1065. In case of further denial I will continue with the attack. If you are ready to pay your debt right away, I will refrain from the attack.


Markus Leonhardt

[RobWin]

Winbig & Sdaddy already said what I was thinking on this matter regardless of any threating letter or not, the letter has only secondary relevance. I want to see answers from the casino rep to Winbig & Sdaddy...

[jetset]

I agree with SDaddy and Winbig's thought on posts 4 and 9 here - there's way too much use of the lawyer's "we can do what we like and our decision is final" instead of properly framed T&Cs.

If the player gambled within the T&Cs, then pay him and then ban him - don't take his money and then try to wriggle out from the casino obligation when he wins by screwing around with this ridiculous "bonus abuser" scam.

But Herr Leonhardt should be careful in making the threats that he has allegedly made - cyber-extortion, intimidation and terrorism are taken very seriously by European authorities and he could well find himself in a world of you-know-what just for threatening to deploy this sort of criminal activity.

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by suzecat

Bryan, our resident German-speaking expert............., just for chits and giggles, would you tell us if the translations above are accurate? Not that I believe they are bogus, I'm just a skeptic

The German text is correct German apart from a couple of typos. It is clearly not a computer translation. If this stuff genuine, then this guy must be a graduate of the Adolf Hitler School of Diplomacy.

[chuchu59]

Peter@CIC,

For a start stop spamming me. Over the past few months, I have been spammed literally every day asking me to register there and in several languages too. Even if I could play at Playtech-powered casinos, do you think I would bother with a casino who has sent me more than 200 spam mails?

[Edward D. Wood]

any updates here?
i would be more than curious what happened with the planed DDOS attack.
markus, just be careful...

after reading this whole story. Hmmm..YES, he is right. the problem is (when he is a serious one. and not a bad-boy-bonus-somehting). what can he do to get his money/winning??

let them eat their own tactics. i have really no mercy with those crooks.
sounds rather brutala and subversive, but pfffff...what about stealing money from customers?

just my 2 cents.

[me_and_ed]

I know this is an older thread however it really chokes me when rogue casino's change there name, formerly Maxima which was known to pull these tactics and had ridiculous bonus terms prey on uninformed people and continue to steal money without any form of penalty whatsoever. Tell me on this earth what other businesses can operate and get away stuff like this. It is such a leap of faith depositing these days.

[Jasminebed]

I am sick and tired of casinos singing the Bonus Abuser song. If you open a duplicate account, that is clearly against every T&C I have ever read.

Casinos are more than free to ban a player from further promotions, or even block their accounts if they wish, but should not be free to DENY winnings based on play allowed by their rules and by their software.

As for Bonus Hunters, I don't have to hunt far...I get lots of spam email offers.

Casinos spend a lot of time, effort and money promoting their bonuses, paying affiliates and seeking high search engine listings to promote these bonuses. Bonus "hunter" is a joke. If there is only one bonus per group, fine, list them clearly. Check a new player against your database before granting a bonus.

Do not accuse a player of "hunting" for something you make so easy to find.

[1819]

this all can be avoided by simply lowering the bet limits when a bonus is being used. it is the fault of the casino. they took a 1/3rd bankroll bet and the player got lucky. they would not refund his bet if he lost. fraudster or not the casino took a legitimate wager and should make good. if you want to close the account for multiple accounts, or some other decent reason, then that is fine. that is not the reason given. the "we dont like your play style" is crap.

[Markus]

I still didn't get my winning. I also didn't perform any kind of DDOS attack, but it is true that I have made this threat. I know now that making this threat wasn't a very good idea, but at this time I felt so helpless and thought this would be my only chance to get my money.

If I had known earlier about the PAB service, I would have chosen definitely this way instead of making threats. But I suppose now it's too late for a PAB, because too much time has passed since this event, isn't it? Furthermore I have only little hope that a PAB would help me here, because in the past Maxima Casino seems always to ignore the Casinomeister.

It's too bad that Casinomeister's Rouge List isn't completely up-to-date, because I have always checked casino blacklists like this before I have signed up at any casino. This isn't meant as criticism but if Class 1 Casino would there be listed as a rebranded Maxima Casino I would have never played there.