Roguish PKR revoking bonus for no reason.

[topoor]

My son and I are not using the same account and have never used the same account. My son has been involved in the complaint with the AGCC as my representative and nothing more.

This is obviously PKR's latest stunt to justify their actions following our recent exchange. My identity has been confirmed and verified by PKR and Moneybookers.

[maxd]

Originally Posted by topoor

This is obviously PKR's latest stunt to justify their actions following our recent exchange.

On the one hand I see PKR trying to go through the difficult process of changing their policies to better accommodate their players and on the other hand I see you firing off unsubstantiated and inflammatory things like this. Not quite sporting is it?

I'm not saying that you haven't been wronged here, but I am saying that you can either move forward towards a fair resolution of your issue or you can continue to bang the war drums and slag off PKR. Your choice which way you go but I can't see much point in the latter.

[topoor]

Excuse me? The only unsubstantiated piece of information as far as I can see is your comment that my son was using my account! A comment I might add that I would have expected you to discuss with me privately as it obviously relates to the PAB we have been discussing.

I believe I have been more than "sporting" with PKR and given them every opportunity to behave in a professional and fair manner. It is obvious that they have fed this unsubstantiated nonsense to Moneybookers and it is this unsubstantiated claim that is the subject of my legal action.

Were you aware that PKR accused me of not being who I claimed to be because I wanted communciations in writing? They quickly dropped that line when I telephoned them!

I am very disappointed that you have chosen this line.

[lots0]

topoor,
I think what Max is trying to say is that you should follow your attorney's advice and not say anything at all in public. No matter what is said to you or about you.

Max is trying to deal with this poker room for you. But if you make comments here in public that make pkr management angry the chances of getting your money goes out the window.

The only reason PKR will pay you off is because they want to the bad publicity (and you) to go away... If you make them angry you may never get your money.

[GOCC]

[QUOTE=maxd;248365]On the one hand I see PKR trying to go through the difficult process of changing their policies to better accommodate their players and on the other hand I see you firing off unsubstantiated and inflammatory things like this. Not quite sporting is it?
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With respect what do you expect her to do? A casino has tried to defraud her of her money and now claim someone else is using her account so thats the problm.

[maxd]

Originally Posted by GOCC

With respect what do you expect her to do? A casino has tried to defraud her of her money and now claim someone else is using her account so thats the problm.

There's another way to look at those same details: an issue that was seemingly unresolvable is now quite resolvable because a casino has changed it's policies (do you know how rare that is? especially in the middle of a dispute, in a way that could help the player get their money?) _and_ the casino has clearly specified what they see as the last stumbling block that needs to be cleared away in order to make everyone happy. What else should they do, send chocolates?

Guys, the point is that PKR is trying to correct past mistakes, clean the slate here, and move forward. What's the point in pissing on them for that?

[thelawnet]

Originally Posted by maxd

On the one hand I see PKR trying to go through the difficult process of changing their policies to better accommodate their players and on the other hand I see you firing off unsubstantiated and inflammatory things like this. Not quite sporting is it?

That seems more than a little harsh. I don't see that players should be required to grovel simply to get what is legally theirs, viz. their money.

The fact is that the player has been severely inconvenienced and has had a large amount of her time wasted for no valid reason.

Paying players is hardly a 'difficult process', and describing paying ones debts as being done to 'better accommodate their players' seems like a euphemism too far.

[GOCC]

Originally Posted by maxd

There's another way to look at those same details: an issue that was seemingly unresolvable is now quite resolvable because a casino has changed it's policies (do you know how rare that is? especially in the middle of a dispute, in a way that could help the player get their money?) _and_ the casino has clearly specified what they see as the last stumbling block that needs to be cleared away in order to make everyone happy. What else should they do, send chocolates?

Guys, the point is that PKR is trying to correct past mistakes, clean the slate here, and move forward. What's the point in pissing on them for that?

So because they have tried to turn the player over but now, following pressure from a highly regarded website they are now going to do the right thing you are saying we should be happy. Are you for real?

Remember when some lefty do gooders in England had the bright Idea of letting burglars meet there victims "To help the offenders reform." Sod the thoughts of the victim but hey, if it helps the poor thieves attone their ways then brilliant.

PKR tried to screw the player and by the sounds of it, took on more than they could chew. Do you REALLY believe if it hadnt been for the fact casinomeister got involved she would have got paid? I really am struggling to understand how you can actually be sticking up for them just because they are righting a wrong. THEY SHOULDNT HAVE DONE THE WRONG IN THE FIRST PLACE

[maxd]

Originally Posted by thelawnet

Paying players is hardly a 'difficult process', and describing paying ones debts as being done to 'better accommodate their players' seems like a euphemism too far.

Ugh! Enough already! When a casino steps up to the plate to correct it's ways and make right on past mistakes that's a good thing and should be welcomed with some amount of grace. Constantly sniping about the past or trivial peripheral things is petty nonsense, as we've seen too much of in this thread of late. If you guys would rather intentionally misinterpret or make the worst of every little word ad nauseum then ... well, don't! CM is better than that and there are other places to do such things.

[GOCC]

Originally Posted by maxd

Ugh! Enough already! When a casino steps up to the plate to correct it's ways and make right on past mistakes that's a good thing and should be welcomed with some amount of grace. Constantly sniping about the past or trivial peripheral things is petty nonsense, as we've seen too much of in this thread of late. If you guys would rather intentionally misinterpret or make the worst of every little word ad nauseum then ... well, don't! CM is better than that and there are other places to do such things.

Yes, but like I said they shouldnt have done the wrong in the first place and if you cant take onboard peoples views that may be the opposite of yours then its time to pack it in.

What are the trivial and peripheral things. The fact they tried to screw the player. Yes it is great shes going to get paid but the fact is SHE WOULD NOT HAVE GOT PAID IT IF HADNT BEEN FOR THE SITE. If she hadnt come here, she would have been another disgruntled player