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Old 20th June 2008, 04:44 PM
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Geesh your all telling me they can see my puter screen i guess i best get rid of all those movies and music im downloading LOL
Can anyone prove they can do this. Is there a way to test if player to player can read what we have up and open (now guys dont take that the wrong way)
if so someone pm you can try and read my screen lets see if it does work.
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Geesh your all telling me they can see my puter screen i guess i best get rid of all those movies and music im downloading LOL
Can anyone prove they can do this. Is there a way to test if player to player can read what we have up and open (now guys dont take that the wrong way)
if so someone pm you can try and read my screen lets see if it does work.
To do this would need them to install a piece of software on your PC, and then have them given the ability to switch it on from their end.

Windows supports this, and there is proprietry software available for this. With a DOWNLOAD casino, it is simple for this functionality to be included within the client, I am not sure about non-download casinos though, as it would either have to download something to the PC, such as an ActiveX control, or have some code embedded within the website itself that uses the Windows screenshot function, and send the results back.

Since Betfair state they cannot provide playlogs, it will look pretty bad for them if their defence turns out to be based on in-depth analysis of these non-existent logs.
If they are based in the EU, they could be in breach of the Data Protection laws by denying that they have playlog data available if indeed they do. There is also a formal procedure that will legally FORCE them to divulge ALL data they hold about a player, not just playlogs.
Here in the UK, we have to send a legally fixed fee of £10, and can demand to be sent a copy of ALL personal data that a company, or government entity, holds about us. There are strict regulations that govern how these formal requests are handled, which don't apply if the request is made informally, and the entity has something to hide.

All we really need to do is show that it is possible for Chartwell software to easily compile a playlog suitable for sending to a player, then ask RedArmy for an explanation.

If Betfair have a good case, sending playlogs to the player will only serve to help their position, as hopefully the truth will come out, and onlookers will see that Betfair had nothing to hide, and were 100% confident of their position.
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No response from RedArmy for several weeks now. What do you guys think I should do now?
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No response from RedArmy for several weeks now. What do you guys think I should do now?
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And I'd have some screen shots of the their bonus T&Cs, in case they get edited later.
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I agree with sdaddy. You have to submit a PAB. But the strangest thing is that there is no reply from RedArmy
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