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    Confused?

    How Can the Admin ban a Legit User?

    I have been notified that she posted and was banned?

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    Well, I logged in and got this message!

    You have been banned for the following reason:
    spammer - bye

    Date the ban will be lifted: Never

    That is embarrassing and bs if you ask me. > I don't think I said anything bad. I guess they thought I worked for your casino. LOL I didn't post a link or anything so I don't see what the problem was. This is some crap! Sorry they did that. Now I know why I stick to this forum. lol

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    Read this one as well!

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...585-hello.html

    Sometimes mistakes are made but there are a lot of spammers around and I think Bryan saw something at her registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSM View Post
    How Can the Admin ban a Legit User?
    I have been notified that she posted and was banned?
    You have just been sent a personal message by bonusroundplease on Latest Casino Bonuses.
    IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.
    The message they sent you was:
    Well, I logged in and got this message!
    You have been banned for the following reason:
    spammer - bye

    Date the ban will be lifted: Never
    That is embarrassing and bs if you ask me. > I don't think I said anything bad. I guess they thought I worked for your casino. LOL I didn't post a link or anything so I don't see what the problem was. This is some crap! Sorry they did that. Now I know why I stick to this forum. lol

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    I have to agree with you. It was said "spammer - bye", but not "unfortunately, we are suspecting you are going to spam our message board, so we are closing your account forever". Anyone feel the difference? If she was going to spam, so it was ok to ban her, but if she wasn't - don't you think this comment is rather insulting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSM View Post
    How Can the Admin ban a Legit User?
    I have been notified that she posted and was banned?
    Obviously the Admin/Moderator in question didn't think the person was a legit user.

    And just out of curiosity how would you know about the posting and banning so promptly? I'm not familiar with the details but on the surface of it it all looks a bit suspect: you casino rep, they post about your casino and it gets zapped, you know about it PDQ ... see what I mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlotMonster View Post
    I have to agree with you ... don't you think this comment is rather insulting?
    I'm curious about one thing, two things actually: The first is that I am a Moderator here and I don't even know the story here yet, in either case. How is that that you do and are thus able to be casting judgments on what was done and how it was done? Please enlighten us if you know the details. And if you don't perhaps a polite "what's up?" might be in order as opposed to this "oh yes, hurm hurm, very nasty" thing you seem so quick to post.

    Second thing is why do you question every spammer-banning that comes down the pipe? On several occasions that come to mind you've made similar "why ban the spammer? unfair!" type accusations where I've pointed out to you what was done and why. You simply say "oh, sorry" and then we do it all over again the next time. WTF?!?

    Sooner or later I would hope that you, and others, would see that the VAST majority of the time this kind of action is taken it is for a very good reason. So if you have a question about a particular case -- hopefully not every one that comes down the pipe as currently seems to be the case -- you might want to PM us and say "are you sure?" or somesuch. This constant "unfair! discrimination! wolf!" stuff is getting real old, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maphesto View Post
    Read this one as well!

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...585-hello.html

    Sometimes mistakes are made but there are a lot of spammers around and I think Bryan saw something at her registration.
    Yes I understand that there a lot of Fake posters and Brian may have seen something he didn't like etc etc part of the game what confuses me is that as soon as something nice is said about a Casino then its assumed its a plant or the Casino is getting up to no good but when there is a negative thing said its taken that that's what expired and the Casino is always wrong? we are all trying to get some positive feedback from players so when something nice is said and posted that's seen as a major win for us and positive exposure . its just demotivating to see that when an honest person posts something nice they are seen to be rogue how are we to get good posts if they are going to be banned?

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    This player is a Forum user at another forum she posted a message to me to say she was banned and could i do anything its as simple as that no conspiracy here if you like visit the forum in question and check her history shes been around way longer that Ive been working for this group ..that why i responded so quickly I do it all the time when my players are concerned and respond always

    Quote Originally Posted by maxd View Post
    Obviously the Admin/Moderator in question didn't think the person was a legit user.

    And just out of curiosity how would you know about the posting and banning so promptly? I'm not familiar with the details but on the surface of it it all looks a bit suspect: you casino rep, they post about your casino and it gets zapped, you know about it PDQ ... see what I mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSM View Post
    ... what confuses me is that as soon as something nice is said about a Casino then its assumed its a plant or the Casino is getting up to no good ....
    That's completely rubbish as I'm sure you are well aware. Shall I email you the hundreds of "love my casino!" posts we get? How many thousands will you require before you start to choke on such a ridiculous statement?

    I'm specifically not speaking for Bryan here but from what I've seen fraud, spamming, shilling and other crappy forms of behaviour have reached epidemic proportions in the last year or so and we've proven time and time and time again that when we call "foul!" on something we are almost always right. Sooner or later it comes out in the wash and the vast majority of the time it's pretty much exactly as we call it.

    Care to guess why? Because we are the experts! Having seen so much fraud and dirty tricks for so many years we can usually smell it a mile away. And if the stink doesn't give it away then the details usually do. We've seen it thousands upon thousands of times and you get to know the MO after a while.

    Are mistakes made? Sure, once in a while, and that's why I say a friendly "are you sure?" thing is not out of turn every once in a while. But automatically jumping up on the soapbox and banging away at the "how can you do this? how can you do that?" stuff is, frankly, insulting and tiresome. Show some respect!
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    Freedom of Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by maxd View Post
    Obviously the Admin/Moderator in question didn't think the person was a legit user.

    And just out of curiosity how would you know about the posting and banning so promptly? I'm not familiar with the details but on the surface of it it all looks a bit suspect: you casino rep, they post about your casino and it gets zapped, you know about it PDQ ... see what I mean?



    I'm curious about one thing, two things actually: The first is that I am a Moderator here and I don't even know the story here yet, in either case. How is that that you do and are thus able to be casting judgments on what was done and how it was done? Please enlighten us if you know the details. And if you don't perhaps a polite "what's up?" might be in order as opposed to this "oh yes, hurm hurm, very nasty" thing you seem so quick to post.

    Second thing is why do you question every spammer-banning that comes down the pipe? On several occasions that come to mind you've made similar "why ban the spammer? unfair!" type accusations where I've pointed out to you what was done and why. You simply say "oh, sorry" and then we do it all over again the next time. WTF?!?

    Sooner or later I would hope that you, and others, would see that the VAST majority of the time this kind of action is taken it is for a very good reason. So if you have a question about a particular case -- hopefully not every one that comes down the pipe as currently seems to be the case -- you might want to PM us and say "are you sure?" or somesuch. This constant "unfair! discrimination! wolf!" stuff is getting real old, IMHO.

    My point is what happened to Freedom of Speech or Innocent until proven Guilty ? as a Mod surely you should give people the benefit of doubt first and not shoot from the Hip .. I am only upset at the fact that something nice was said about our casino and it was put up in lights for everyone to see only to be removed becuase she was seen to be spamming yet she had never posted anything before this to make her guilty of Spamming Like i said if you don't believe me Visit the other forums shes a member and ask them ask the admin there ask there members about her get some history from them then make a decision that's all she wanted shes been a long standing member there way before i was even in the gaming industry surely they too would have banned her? and I did also mail the admin about this issue when i saw it before i posted ..

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    AFAIC I'm all for a tough line on spammers, who imo show no respect for the members on a forum with their sales hype and spamming runs, mostly executed in a clumsy and dishonest fashion.

    No-one has a beef with giving credit where credit is due, and I have seen many genuine players here offer bouquets as well as brickbats to online casinos.

    But the acid test is whether the bouquet is genuinely motivated by real customer satisfaction, or is some BS post designed not so much to acknowledge good service as to pull in players at any cost.

    Most of the members here are sufficiently experienced to see almost immediately whether a post is genuine or an attempt to get a plug in through stealth. Spammers don't seem to realise this.

    I have rarely seen the moderators here make a mistake in misidentifying spammers, who imo deserve to be treated with the same lack of respect that they show the members by peddling their wares.
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    Your Decision Stands

    last statement on this issue ...Its your decision you made it so both she and us will need to stand by it and we will .She stated shes happy where she is anyways and as I am the Casino Rep I wanted to bring it to your attention which I feel I am 100% in my rights to do look after a players reputation and have done and can see by the negative response that your opinion is the only correct one . My point was that I think you've over reacted and had you just done a Little research or even Googled her you'd have seen shes been around more yours than most casinos that's my point and i am hoping any more good news that posted may stay there in future ---- MODs Decision is Final and Accepted


    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSM View Post
    My point is what happened to Freedom of Speech or Innocent until proven Guilty ? as a Mod surely you should give people the benefit of doubt first and not shoot from the Hip .. I am only upset at the fact that something nice was said about our casino and it was put up in lights for everyone to see only to be removed becuase she was seen to be spamming yet she had never posted anything before this to make her guilty of Spamming Like i said if you don't believe me Visit the other forums shes a member and ask them ask the admin there ask there members about her get some history from them then make a decision that's all she wanted shes been a long standing member there way before i was even in the gaming industry surely they too would have banned her? and I did also mail the admin about this issue when i saw it before i posted ..

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