Jackpot won at Partycasino (?)

[theriver]

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Hello guys, first of all sorry for my bad english, I'm from Germany - Hamburg.

Here's the deal, my best friend has won a jackpot on Partycasino, almost 1 million dollar!

Nice uh! Problem, they wouldn't let him cashout in once, because he i'sn't a VIP!
He only has a bronze level, so they let him cashout 25k a month! That's 4 years for all....

My friend really got a gambling problem so the money is going to be lost at the casino for sure.
They told him that if he would get 100k points he can cashout 75K that month!
Another 100k points for the next month etc...

So he started plaing like crazy, already dropped 200k!! On a VIP machine, 2k dollar per spin!!

What you guys think of this? ofcourse it's stupid for him to play but when you ship a jackpot you should get it immediately right??

[KasinoKing]

What you guys think of this? ofcourse it's stupid for him to play but when you ship a jackpot you should get it immediately right??

I think that if these limits are clearly spelled out in the T&Cs, then you have to accept it.
Of course, no-one expects that they are going to win such a huge amount, so most people probably wouldn't give such terms a second thought when they start playing.

I think most people here would be absolutely delighted to be getting $25K a month for 3 years - I know I would!

The problem here is not the casino, but your friend and you really need to try to persuade him to do the right thing. I would suggest he needs to completely stop all gambling and may even need counselling to help him with this problem. I don't even know the guy but I am very concerned for his future well being.
CasinoMeister has a very good section about problem gambling, you both should read it: http://www.casinomeister.com/quit_gambling.php

KK

[Seventh777]

Well, if what you are saying is the truth then this is wrong, when a PJP is won the software provider pays the casino where it was won, so it`s a stalling technique so they milk the interest (I take it this win was a PJP yes?).

[theriver]

Yes it was a partycasino jackpot.

Offcouse I agree that it is his own responsibility to play or not to play it. But when they hold the money, offer you a 'deal' where he can cashout more if he plays more, don't they trigger him to play?

I know for sure he isn't going to make the 4 years! Luckily he probaply get 100k points so he can cashout more this month but that isn't the solution.

Nobody expects to win such a jackpot but when you do, you have to get patience and put your gambling feelings away for a long time.
For some people thats hard to do.

[Seventh777]

Yes it was a partycasino jackpot.

Offcouse I agree that it is his own responsibility to play or not to play it. But when they hold the money, offer you a 'deal' where he can cashout more if he plays more, don't they trigger him to play?

I know for sure he isn't going to make the 4 years! Luckily he probaply get 100k points so he can cashout more this month but that isn't the solution.

Nobody expects to win such a jackpot but when you do, you have to get patience and put your gambling feelings away for a long time.
For some people thats hard to do.

A rogue casino with nearly $1 million of someone`s cash in their bank, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we can all see where this will go, I would tell your friend to seek legal advice asap.

[chuchu59]

If your friend can afford a downpayment for a house/flat obtain a mortgage and have the money paid to the mortgage account to coincide with the instalment dates. This way the bank deducts the money immediately and your friend will not have access to the funds.

[Simmo!]

But when they hold the money, offer you a 'deal' where he can cashout more if he plays more, don't they trigger him to play?

Seriously? They really did that? In writing?

I totally agree with KasinoKing - he needs some help before he wastes it all but only he can really take that step. I agree too that if it's the T&C's then that's not unfair. IGT also pay out jackpots in installments. I think it's wrong myself but those are the rules they set out and players have the choice not to play there.

[vinylweatherman]

What is clearly rogue here is that they are trying to entice the player to play loads more and they will then TRIPLE his monthly allowance. If they can pay 75K under these circumstances, they can damn well pay 75K WITHOUT the player playing away their big win.

Firstly, it needs to be made clear to this friend that this is 100% a tactic concocted to screw him out of the vast majority of his jackpot, and that he should resist playing their game that lets them hide behind the rules and claim they were acting "honourably". He should tell them that he agrees that 25K/month over 4 years is a great idea, and that he has been told this by a "financial advisor" who thinks a payment plan would make him spend the windfall more carefully. He will then need the help and support of his friends to resist temptation to log back in and blow the lot.

This will put the casino over a barrel, as they will come to realise that they face 4 solid years of close scrutiny by CM members, and had better keep up the 25K/month payment without any "monkey business", such as trying to cut alternative deals in the style of Joyland casino (who tricked a Canadian player into giving up $2Million of a $4Million jackpot in order to have this $2Million paid right away).

The terms also need to be checked VERY carefully to see if they are ALREADY trying some "monkey business" over the current payment plan, and in particular the offer of a deal to speed things up.

[theriver]

It's just so sick guys. I mean this isn't some shady casino, this is Partycasino, some of the biggest in the world!

He was told over the phone that he couldn't cashed out in once and was noted on their T&C, so yes we checked them right away and it mentions the 25k pay out each month by his vip level at the time of winning.

I am going to visit my friend tonight, hopefully I can talk into him to stop playing but it's going to be tough. Maybe change his password or somethinh with him.
He already dropped some money again.

I don't think that he has any rights because it's in their T&C right? last thing he wants is an argument with them, maybe they can confiscate overything?
what if I loses a lot? no way he can make a case of it because it is his own responsiblity....

[naththo]

Hi,

Unfortunately yes, it is part of term and condition. Every casino have different rules set out. So there is not much you can do about. You just have to accept the installment payment per month. Although he really need help with serious gambling problem.

If he kept playing after jackpot then its a real serious gambling problem. So he will need to see Dr (GP) to get referral to see counselling with mental health care plan. I hope this way should work for him. He has to be responsible for it, plus he must think about his family and future which is the most important, if you gamble away, you gamble away the family and future and your screwed. Thats what it will happen. NOT if, but, etc no excuse. He must not make excuse, just go and get help at once for good then thats great, its a great live saving.

You must help your friend. It is your choice. But it is good idea to try encourage him. Don't let him get away with poor excuse. If he did get some help, its a win win situation. If you keep gamble, you keep losing, not win at all. If you stop gamble and save up the money, you win all the time. Also tell him that Casino make a HUGE massive profit. So there is no need to give away money to casino to help them keep running. Casino is designed to be supposed to play for fun and entertainment.

Every casino website has gambling awareness too as well. If any casino didn't have gambling help/hotline or any awareness, then casino is in rogue pit instantly if it was the case. Its the law that every casino must have those feature too. Anyway good luck guy! I hope you be able to manage to get him to get help.