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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycoon83 View Post
    Here is the full chat:

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.
    You are now chatting with 'Kanthan'
    Kanthan: Hi Chris
    Chris Tycoon: Hi, why was my account locked?
    Kanthan: How can I help you
    Chris Tycoon: I deposited $1,100 so far into it and im winning some, then its locked now
    Kanthan: A moment please while I check for you.
    Chris Tycoon: thanks
    Kanthan: I have checked for you and it seems that you have outstanding charge backs at another Casino therefore the account has been locked by our Ecash processing company
    Chris Tycoon: what? thats impoossible
    Chris Tycoon: what casino
    Kanthan: This is the information I have received. We are not able to say as this is confidential information
    Chris Tycoon: So im locked out forever?
    Kanthan: Not forever until your charge backs are paid at the other online casino
    Chris Tycoon: But if you won't tell me what casino, how will I know?
    Chris Tycoon: I hardly play at online casinos
    Kanthan: Unfortunately I do not have the required information
    Chris Tycoon: So then im locked out forever
    Chris Tycoon: if i dont have the info, you dont have the info
    Kanthan: The charge backs that you have at are another Casino. This information that you require we do not have.
    Kanthan: Once the payments are made the account will be reopened
    Chris Tycoon: Oh my god.
    Chris Tycoon: You wont give me my money will you
    Chris Tycoon: How am I suppose to know who claims I owe them money
    Kanthan: Unfortunately until the charge backs have been paid at the other online Casino
    Chris Tycoon: What casino?!
    Chris Tycoon: This is why people dont trust online casinos kanthan
    Kanthan: Unfortunately Chris we do not know this information. As it is confidential
    Chris Tycoon: you just tole my money
    Chris Tycoon: now i DO have to go to my bank
    Chris Tycoon: and inform them
    Chris Tycoon: of this chat
    Chris Tycoon: you say im a thief
    Chris Tycoon: yet you locked my account
    Chris Tycoon: with over 6 grand in it
    Chris Tycoon: whos the real thief here
    Kanthan: No not a thief. Our Ecash processing company have picked up that you have outstanding charge backs at another Casino. Once you have paid these charges your account will be reopened and payments made
    Chris Tycoon: But I have never done a chargeback
    Chris Tycoon: so hhow can i know
    Chris Tycoon: what "casino"
    Chris Tycoon: i supposdly owe money to
    Chris Tycoon: tell me that kanthan..you say I owe money to a casino, ok cool, what casino? so i can contact them
    Chris Tycoon: how much do i supposdly owe?
    Kanthan: I unfortunately do not know this information
    Chris Tycoon: so then in the end
    Chris Tycoon: i cant do anything about this
    Chris Tycoon: since you know nothing
    Chris Tycoon: and i know nothing
    Kanthan: this information is not given to me as it is confidential
    Chris Tycoon: so my account will remain locked forever
    Chris Tycoon: and you stole my money
    Chris Tycoon: then why dont you just refund my deposits
    Kanthan: Not forever. only until you settle your charge backs
    Chris Tycoon: i dont even care about the $5,000 im up right now
    Chris Tycoon: just return the $1,100 deposits
    Chris Tycoon: but there are no chargebacks!
    Kanthan: A moment please while I check for you.
    Chris Tycoon: or why cant you take the money out of my balance
    Chris Tycoon: that you say i owe
    Kanthan: Have you had any notifications from another merchant?
    Chris Tycoon: no i have not
    Kanthan: Please check as I have checked again with our Ecash processing company and we are unable to open your account
    Chris Tycoon: then why dont you just refund my $1,100
    Chris Tycoon: take the 5 grand
    Chris Tycoon: at this point, i dont even care
    Kanthan: If your account is closed there is nothing we can do at present with regards to refunding deposits
    Chris Tycoon: so i have to go to my bank?!
    Chris Tycoon: wow
    Chris Tycoon: youre the reason people HAVE to do chargebacks
    Chris Tycoon: rediculous
    Kanthan: You can call your bank yes for morer information
    Sorry for your plight, Tycoon. I will never deposit at this casino.

    Quote Originally Posted by skiny View Post
    You went through a PAB, they refused to give any details, confiscated your winnings and they're still accredited?
    Can someone tell us why they are still accredited? I surely will not deposit at this casino.
    Last edited by maxd; 27th September 2010 at 09:05 AM. Reason: consecutive posts, minutes apart, merged

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    The very fact that the OP does not want to PAB tells me a lot of information.

    1. The OP either has something to hide or is worried something is known.
    2. The OP does not want to make this matter better and would just like to rant.
    3. The OP has done wrong and didn't want to admit it but rather talk bad.

    Either way, the OP is so afraid of letting Max know about what is going on and for Max to get to the bottom of things. That would cost the OP exactly $0.00 to do and $6000+ to gain.

    I'm not a genius or something but if it was me and weighing both sides of the coin $0.00 vs $6000.00, even a kid could tell you that he's rather pick $6000 than $0. So to me this is totally stupid and the OP is not being 100% truthful at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aodat2 View Post
    The very fact that the OP does not want to PAB tells me a lot of information.

    1. The OP either has something to hide or is worried something is known.
    2. The OP does not want to make this matter better and would just like to rant.
    3. The OP has done wrong and didn't want to admit it but rather talk bad.

    Either way, the OP is so afraid of letting Max know about what is going on and for Max to get to the bottom of things. That would cost the OP exactly $0.00 to do and $6000+ to gain.

    I'm not a genius or something but if it was me and weighing both sides of the coin $0.00 vs $6000.00, even a kid could tell you that he's rather pick $6000 than $0. So to me this is totally stupid and the OP is not being 100% truthful at all.

    You can assume all you want. There will always be doubters.

    There were doubters when I won the $65,000 jackpot. But I couldn't care less about what they think.

    I have been in contact with the casino and they refused to give me answers. I have seen they did this to others, so to me, there's no point in doing a PAB. I'd rather take it to my bank at this point.

    I won't let them scam me of my deposits. Honestly, I don't care about the $1,000 in deposits, it's just the principle that they think they can get away with it. I gamble a lot more than that in a session of blackjack at local casinos. But again, it's just the principle. They won't give me answers, and it's been weeks. I actually just got an email saying they are closing my account for good tomorrow. So just more info to send to my bank.

    I don't even do online casinos anymore, which is another reason why I'm not doing a PAB. There is no group I really trust to be honest. I took my jackpot winnings and ran. I only go to B&M casinos, play in poker tournaments at live casinos. I only visit here to keep updated on things for when I have spare time to use.

    So again, I actually find doubters, conspiracy theorists, "tin foil" hat wears such as yourself entertaining.

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    Tycoon83: So again, I actually find doubters, conspiracy theorists, "tin foil" hat wears such as yourself entertaining.
    : Well dang, you just joined our group....as you say :
    Tycoon83: There is no group I really trust to be honest
    Welcome to our club! I think I was put in the "tin foil", conspiracy theorist group for a while until eyes started opening...but then again, maybe I am still in it...

    But then again, if you can walk away from this amount of change without looking back or fighting for it...that does say something..IMO too...
    Tycoon83: I'd rather take it to my bank at this point
    Please tell me you are not meaning what I think you are meaning ?? As in "chargebacks" ??

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    The attitude the OP has tells me he isn't innocent like he would want us to think rather someone that did do chargebacks at another casino at one time and now is getting called out on it. I don't agree with how the casino handled it though. At the very least they should give him more information regarding those chargebacks so he could take care of them and be paid his winnings or at the very least his deposits refunded and account closed. I do believe most of his story however and I just started playing at Villentio a few weeks ago and like it but I will no longer deposit there. I have uninstalled the casino and they will no longer get my business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asianeyes View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skiny View Post
    You went through a PAB, they refused to give any details, confiscated your winnings and they're still accredited?
    Can someone tell us why they are still accredited? I surely will not deposit at this casino.
    This has been addressed, skiny's post was incorrect and misleading: see http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post385257
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    I can only speak for myself, but Villento is the only online casino where I still play and deposit. I've always been paid exactly on schedule (24 account flush, but at least I get paid) and have never had any issues I would consider dishonest. I've been playing online over 10 years and have seen about 1000 different casinos come and go (unfortunately, playing at most at least once), so I think I'm fairly good at spotting the bad places and my experiences with Villento have not even approached bad whatsoever. If they did, I wouldn't still be depositing there after about 2 straight years as a customer......just my personal experience, has nothing to do with what anyone else did or did not experience...

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