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    Online Slot stats May 2010!

    Online Slotistics May 2010

    Amazing how many of you were kind enough to send me your slot stats and logs. They have made very interesting reading and now it is all collated I am able to provide you with some very interesting stats, some you will like, others you will not.

    The RTP's are a bit lower than expected. The whole stats for May were however taken from other logs and sessions prior to the beginning of May but I decided to use them as it has given me something to work with.

    Something I did learn from the majority of logs is the popularity of certain slot machines, but more importantly when you all tend to start losing.

    Many of you tend to reach about 40-60% above your initial deposit but carry on. From what I have seen, those that do this then lose approxiamately 50% of that total.

    Simply put, player deposits $100, wins up to $140, continues to gamble, walks with $70!!

    With that 70% the majority of you then played at the same casino but at a different slot, same thing happens.

    From what I have observed only this month, it would seem logical for anyone who manages to win 40-60% above their initial deposit, to move onto a totally different casino with a different software platform. I will assume many of you play at different casinos so this is an easy thing to do, the problem is you cannot transfer your money from one account to the other.

    Hopefully you will have funds in at least two different accounts. Now CM offers quite a lot of casinos with different software platforms and I would strongly advise that you mix at least two during your play time. IE Wager $100 at RTG and then $100 at MG.

    Sessions that ended and re-started the following day looked to decrease at a slower rate of 12-17%. Therefore, if on the Monday you leave with your $140 (40% profit) you could expect to lose 12-17% of that on the Tuesday. Once that initial 12-17% is completed, the rise was slow but measured up against the standard RTP's I have recorded.

    I would recommend all players to look to change software platforms when/if reaching 40-60%. As a fail safe you may even wish to use 25%+ as a guide.

    Below are the figures I have calculated for May. A total of 832 sessions were collected. I only received 9 sessions from Boss Media platforms. Remember they are sessions I have received from the players and not what the actual software companies may or may not provide.

    I decided to change the "Free Spins per dollar" to "Free Spins per 100 spins". The same goes for "Bonus Games". Surprisingly perhaps RTG offered more free spins per 100 but even that just broke the 1 Free spin per 100. This is alarming.

    Many of those stats that I had collected showed many players to receive a lot more free spins after spinning at least 250+ during the one session, a higher stake per spin also showed to be more productive at getting more free spins and bonus games than playing at the lowest stake. I will be looking to add more to this by the end of June.

    More stats can be found on the website, please do keep sending them to me on slotistics@slotistics.com The more I have the more I can find out.

    If you like what I am doing there is a little "Donate" button on the site, all donations kindly accepted! Best of luck and will hopefully have more for you at the end of the June!

    I am hoping to provide more on specific slot machines, actual casinos, IE Rushmore versus Cherry Red, and most popular slots on each platform and the average amount of spins taken before winning free spins, bonus games and a win over $50 in one spin.

    Please remember I cannot do it without your help so please take a minute or so to jot some of your notes down!

    Thanks once again to all who sent me their's and Keep those stats coming!
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    Arghhh lol, Sorry i nominated and gave thanks to Kakata It was supposed to go to Shyguy off course Hope this can get corrected ( i managed to find how to remove this again lol, ShyGuy has now been awarded and got thanks )
    Thanks for this Shyguy great work, it shows off a bit like ive tried last week, more playtime wins on 1$ or more bets, also quite a lot freespins at RTG's but got my winnings from Microgaming etc... nice one

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    Hi Guys, Shyguy

    As much as I appreciate the initiative, and as much as I hate to be the partypooper, as a mathematician you sometimes see things that make the
    hairs on your back stand up straight. This is one of these things.

    Come'on people .. some common sense please .. here's a post that claims that on e.g. MG software, in may, there's been 0.063 (feature = freespins + bonus) every 100 games. That's once every 1587 spins. And you believe that ?

    Lets keep it real. There is no way that these numbers are correct.


    ShyGuy,

    I'm offering you my help to explain a couple of things and give you some pointers and advice. Please send me a pm asap. A pointer I need to make very clear right now is that you can not derive the type of advice you are deriving from descriptive statistics of a random event. Things like "I would recommend all players to look to change software platforms when/if reaching 40-60%. As a fail safe you may even wish to use 25%+ as a guide. " .. are completely meaningless .. its like saying you've measured lottery results, 3 got drawn more often .. and then to advice playing 3. It's random. Changing platforms will change absolutely nothing. If you take your site serious you need to be doing the opposite. Your viewers will make these types of conclusions and you would have to warn them not to do so. (e.g. please be aware that these numbers are an analysis of historical data that cannot be used to predict the future. Don't try to use these numbers to better your odds. Your odds will still be the same.).

    Please contact me soon,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Dice View Post
    Hi Guys, Shyguy

    As much as I appreciate the initiative, and as much as I hate to be the partypooper, as a mathematician you sometimes see things that make the
    hairs on your back stand up straight. This is one of these things.

    Come'on people .. some common sense please .. here's a post that claims that on e.g. MG software, in may, there's been 0.063 (feature = freespins + bonus) every 100 games. That's once every 1587 spins. And you believe that ?

    Lets keep it real. There is no way that these numbers are correct.


    ShyGuy,

    I'm offering you my help to explain a couple of things and give you some pointers and advice. Please send me a pm asap. A pointer I need to make very clear right now is that you can not derive the type of advice you are deriving from descriptive statistics of a random event. Things like "I would recommend all players to look to change software platforms when/if reaching 40-60%. As a fail safe you may even wish to use 25%+ as a guide. " .. are completely meaningless .. its like saying you've measured lottery results, 3 got drawn more often .. and then to advice playing 3. It's random. Changing platforms will change absolutely nothing. If you take your site serious you need to be doing the opposite. Your viewers will make these types of conclusions and you would have to warn them not to do so. (e.g. please be aware that these numbers are an analysis of historical data that cannot be used to predict the future. Don't try to use these numbers to better your odds. Your odds will still be the same.).

    Please contact me soon,

    Enzo
    Thanks for the input Enzo, the stats I have collected are from over 800 sessions and provide these answers and in most cases, the 40%-60% was very clear.

    I only recommend that a software platform be changed when getting to this point as the stats I have collected show that the majority of players then lost money at and around that point. Changing platforms may not be beneficial but when one starts to lose at 140% then it may be a better idea to stop play or move onto another platform.

    I am not trying to predict the future but pass on what I have collected. The free spins and bonus games are separate, 12 free spins is different to 1 bonus game. Many of the stats collected have shown that many players do not win either a bonus game nor free spins from 100 spins, hence the low ratio under 1 free spin per 100.

    I have simply collected as many stats as possible and reported what I have found.

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    Enzo, not a mathmetician but am a slot player and I can assure you that his free spin ratio seems pretty good to me. Let's see, deposit $100, play at $.40 per spin and never get a free spin. That would be 250 spins with no bonus. Believe me when I say, I have had those sessions. Actually more than I care to say.

    And no, not pointing at 3Dice cause I can't play there anymore. Software issues and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Dice View Post
    Hi Guys, Shyguy

    As much as I appreciate the initiative, and as much as I hate to be the partypooper, as a mathematician you sometimes see things that make the
    hairs on your back stand up straight. This is one of these things.

    Come'on people .. some common sense please .. here's a post that claims that on e.g. MG software, in may, there's been 0.063 (feature = freespins + bonus) every 100 games. That's once every 1587 spins. And you believe that ?

    Lets keep it real. There is no way that these numbers are correct.
    I agree - those figures are a complete joke and in no way a reflection of reality.

    I mean; Microgaming 0.003 bonus games per 100 spins = once every 33,333 spins.

    Sorry, but those figures are insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KasinoKing View Post
    I agree - those figures are a complete joke and in no way a reflection of reality.

    I mean; Microgaming 0.003 bonus games per 100 spins = once every 33,333 spins.

    Sorry, but those figures are insane.

    KK
    Thanks for your input KK. 33,333 is not that many spins. Split between just 100 players that is 333 spins each. One would hope that a bonus game would be included to some of those players from 333 spins. Some do, some don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyguy View Post
    Thanks for your input KK. 33,333 is not that many spins. Split between just 100 players that is 333 spins each. One would hope that a bonus game would be included to some of those players from 333 spins. Some do, some don't.
    Sorry again, but if you carry on posting stuff like that you are just going to make yourself look very foolish.
    I appreciate what you are trying to achieve with your analysis of various player's stats, and I think it would be very interesting data for everyone, including me. But the figures in the tables at the bottom of your opening post are out by a factor of around 100.
    I really think you should go back & double check your calculations because they are definitely wrong.

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