Questions regarding 888.COM and NETELLER

[VOTKA]

Hi,

I'm new and registered because of some information I couldn't ask somewhere else. In my culture I can't ask somebody about (online) casinos and such because it's more or less forbidden but I just have to life with it, so I'm asking my questions here.

I'm playing in 888.com's Slots and Roulette practice modes and I charged up my Neteller account with a small amount (20 €) to play for real money.

My questions are:

1. Do I need an Express Neteller account (with verified documents and personal ID sent in), in order to make cash outs through it?

2. I don't understand the bonus conditions of 888.com. Can you please explain it to me.

In the Bonus Policy it says that you get a 100% bonus, which means 20 Euros for me, so I have a total amount of 40 € on my bank. But you gotta bet 20x 40 €, in some cases 30x (in my case) and if you made a charge up with NETELLER (In my case) 50x.

WOW! That means I gotta play for 40 € x 50 = 2.000 €. This is crazy and unbelievable.

But there is one more thing. Roulette games do NOT(!) count. So I have to play slots or something else, but I prefer slots.

Did I understand something wrong? Could you please explain this to me (It's the first time I play in an online casino).

3. Any other things I should know when playing online on 888.com and Neteller things I should know?


Thank you very much in advance and I hope I'm not asking too many questions.

[Simmo!]

1. Do I need an Express Neteller account (with verified documents and personal ID sent in), in order to make cash outs through it?

It might be sensible to do this although you may find they don't insist until a certain number of transactions go through. However, if you win at 888, they will probably ask for your ID anyway, so you may as well do both if you win.

WOW! That means I gotta play for 40 € x 50 = 2.000 €. This is crazy and unbelievable.

But there is one more thing. Roulette games do NOT(!) count. So I have to play slots or something else, but I prefer slots.

Did I understand something wrong? Could you please explain this to me (It's the first time I play in an online casino).

Although that is quite hefty, because of where you live, that is what you have to do. No casino (broadly speaking) will allow you to play roulette on a bonus because players would do Red/Black or Odd/Even bets which are near 50/50 and can be used to build a bankroll more easily.

What you have to remember is that in a casino's eyes, they aren't giving you a bonus so you can win - they are giving it to you so you can try out the games but with a very small chance of profiting.

Bottom line is that a bonus, without a certain level of wagering, can effectively eradicate the house edge and down the years enough players have exploited that to put us in a position where it is very, very hard to profit from a bonus.

As a newbie, my own advice would be to play without the bonus and bet slightly less. That way, you don't have any restrictions and when you want to cash out, you can.

3. Any other things I should know when playing online on 888.com and Neteller things I should know?

Just be aware they are frustratingly slow to pay out compared to many casinos. Expect to wait around 2-3 days for a withdrawal to Neteller - and that's AFTER you have been ID'ed.

They have quite a good fun low variance slot called "Swamp of Fortune" by the way - definitely my favourite and being low variance, good for those on a small budget.

[vinylweatherman]

It might be sensible to do this although you may find they don't insist until a certain number of transactions go through. However, if you win at 888, they will probably ask for your ID anyway, so you may as well do both if you win.



Although that is quite hefty, because of where you live, that is what you have to do. No casino (broadly speaking) will allow you to play roulette on a bonus because players would do Red/Black or Odd/Even bets which are near 50/50 and can be used to build a bankroll more easily.

What you have to remember is that in a casino's eyes, they aren't giving you a bonus so you can win - they are giving it to you so you can try out the games but with a very small chance of profiting.

Bottom line is that a bonus, without a certain level of wagering, can effectively eradicate the house edge and down the years enough players have exploited that to put us in a position where it is very, very hard to profit from a bonus.

As a newbie, my own advice would be to play without the bonus and bet slightly less. That way, you don't have any restrictions and when you want to cash out, you can.



Just be aware they are frustratingly slow to pay out compared to many casinos. Expect to wait around 2-3 days for a withdrawal to Neteller - and that's AFTER you have been ID'ed.

They have quite a good fun low variance slot called "Swamp of Fortune" by the way - definitely my favourite and being low variance, good for those on a small budget.

None of this explains why Neteller deposits supposedly give more chance of making a profit, thus need an additional 20x WR added to bring the chances into line with other methods.

It's a load of bullshit, and even better advice would be to not play here at all, but at a casino that has no problem with deposits coming from Neteller.

[maxd]

It should be said that if you run into difficulties with 888 we won't be able to help you. They're on our "No Can Do" List because they refuse to discuss player issues.

[KasinoKing]

None of this explains why Neteller deposits supposedly give more chance of making a profit, thus need an additional 20x WR added to bring the chances into line with other methods.

It's a load of bullshit, and even better advice would be to not play here at all, but at a casino that has no problem with deposits coming from Neteller.

I 100% agree!
And it's NOT anything to do with where the OP lives - they apply the x50 rule to ALL Neteller deposits.

It's not surprising from a group like 888, but I was surprised to see recently that Ladbrokes apply the similar punishment to players evil enough to use Neteller!

General bonus T&C's:
1. Ladbrokescasino.com reserves the right to exclude players from this and all future promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing this promotion.
2. Customers residing in Russia, Poland and China are excluded from this promotion.
3. As a result of bonus abuse, deposits made using Neteller will be subject to a turnover requirement of 20 times the actual deposit level for all promotions. We reserve the right to recharge all banking fees on deposits which are not turned over at this level. All other payment methods fall into the turnover requirements as specified in the rest of the terms and conditions of this promotional offer.

This even applies to their one-off promos, such as the current Magic Spell one:-
http://casino.ladbrokes.com/en/magic-match/promotions

The WR for other deposit methods is Deposit x 1, for Neteller, Deposit x20...

KK

[VOTKA]

Thanks. Can you recommend some good, trustworthy online casinos with a Neteller payment option and good video slot games and roulette?

[vinylweatherman]

I 100% agree!
And it's NOT anything to do with where the OP lives - they apply the x50 rule to ALL Neteller deposits.

It's not surprising from a group like 888, but I was surprised to see recently that Ladbrokes apply the similar punishment to players evil enough to use Neteller!



This even applies to their one-off promos, such as the current Magic Spell one:-
http://casino.ladbrokes.com/en/magic-match/promotions

The WR for other deposit methods is Deposit x 1, for Neteller, Deposit x20...

KK

It's a total rip off, a mark up from 1x to 20x. Coffee anyone, £2 - oops sorry, you are from Ladbrokes, that'll be £40 please, would you like a cake with that

Hence my now annual uninstall of Ladbrokes casino, usually for piss-poor customer service, but now a different reason for a change.

What a complete load of bullshit anyway, a "bonus abuser" can abuse a bonus just as well with ANY deposit method, there is nothing magic about Neteller money that guarantees big wins everytime.

Indeed, before Christmas I made a net LOSS depositing from Neteller, and playing most of the promotions, and this was at 1x requirement. Now Ladbrokes think I'll get a fairer game if I have to wager 20x what everybody else has to - this is plain GREEDY.

Players will simply move to other deposit methods, and Ladbrokes will think they have solved the problem, only to find they have not. They will then "ban" one deposit method after another, pissing off more and more players as they go. They will also use the need to change deposit method as a means to pay more slowly. Withdrawals back to Neteller can be done very quickly, but unless you have DEPOSITED from Neteller, they will pay you by another method.