Has anyone heard of Slots Alley Casino?

**worldtraveler** · 22nd October 2003, 02:31 AM

They are being promoted by www.gamblersonnet.com. (anyone had experience with this site?).
They are offering 300% unlimited sign-up bonus, and it's not a sticky bonus. Wagering requirements: 20 times purchase and bonus. I did a search on this board and found nothing. That offer looks to me to be too good to be true, even though as a BJ player, BJ does not count towards the wagering requirements.

**Casinomeister** · 22nd October 2003, 09:09 AM

I've never heard of them, nor do I recognize their software. I did a few searches on Google for text and game names and came up with nothing. The whois information is very vague as if they are hiding something.

I'd say you're drifting into uncharted waters here. Good luck!

**jyde** · 22nd October 2003, 09:13 AM

Questionable software run from Israel. Not only is the software a Microgaming rip-off - but I simply don't believe in their progressives. They have jackpots worth $1,5 mill and still they post like shills on Winneronline :yes: .
http://www.winneronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006477.html
They hardly advertise anywhere and noone has anything good to say about them.

Check out the Progressive Aces and Faces. The jackpot starts on $25K ($ - NOT coins) - and you just have to hit a Royal. Currently it's almost $50K. What would the payout be on such a game if it wasn't rigged? Someone with a full version of Win poker could calculate it.
A Royal normally pays 4000 coins - $25K minimum payout with 50 cents coinsize means a Royal pays at least 50000 coins. Currently it's $54K or 108000 coins

Unless you're a slotlover I wouldn't touch any of their games.

**jyde** · 22nd October 2003, 09:30 AM

I bet Gamblersonnet is their own "portal" used to spam their casino. They've been spamming with Slotsalley since July.

Slots Alley also have their own '3rd party auditing firm' - Fairgaminglabs.com

Don't know where Fairgaminglabs are supposed to be located - but the site is hosted in Israel - just like the casino.

**jpm** · 22nd October 2003, 05:56 PM

I've been getting spammed by this outfit for a couple of months now. When I got the first spam I checked them out and did not get a warm fuzzy feeling from them. It all seemed way too good to be true. $25K for a plain old royal on A&F should be a huge red flag. I'd say either you'd never hit one or if you did, you'd never see the money. There would be some excuse or loophole used to void the win. I'd stay far away from this bunch.

**jyde** · 23rd October 2003, 12:42 AM

A friend of mine did some calculations and verified that their software can't be for real.

As mentioned above the Aces and Faces progressive pays out waaaaaaay to much on the Jackpot to be random. A random game with such payout would kill the casino in no time.

They copied the software from Microgaming - Microgaming Aces and Faces pays 99,25% - which I believe is normal for the game.

Assuming this is a real VP game and not a slot - the progressive Aces and Faces on Slots Alley pays 129,99% when the Jackpot is reset to $25K (50000 coins).
Currently the Jackpot is 108800 coins ($54,4K) and the payout (if not a slot) is 174,22%!!!!!

Needless to say this IS NOT VIDEOPOKER - IT'S ANOTHER SLOT

I wonder if all their games are like that? Probably.

Needless to say that Fairgaminglabs is a scam (well - we already guessed)

Check out this crap from their site:

News and Updates

Fair Gaming Labs is currently in the process of testing a new casino software scheduled to be released early next year.

As a service to the online gambling community we are currently compiling a "whistle blower" newsletter, in which we will list various casino software applications we have tested. This should be very enlightening reading material as the companies involved are those that so called "watch dog sites" NEVER speak out against.

**love2vegas** · 27th October 2003, 01:27 PM

I have played at SLOTS ALLEY CASINO. Tried several times with various amounts and came up empty. While playing the ACES & FACES multihand, I ended up with duplicate cards a few times (like 2 J of clubs!) One time, I even got a five of a kind! (Which should be impossible since it is not a bonus game. I sent my concerns, as well as a question about how they could offer such huge jackpots. The casino rep- Natalie Stone wrote back promptly and said there had been a glitch in their software, which sometimes showed the incorrect card. They had been guaranteed by their software provider that it had been straightened out & that a check of my play showed that I had achieved average or above (even though I had lost my stake & the bonuses!) One thing they do & it is not clear, is they ADD wagering requirements onto your intial 20X. So, for example, when they "give" you an added bonus of say 20% for using neteller, they will add an extra 5X wagering requirements. So your wagering requirements may add up to 25-30X or more!
In addition, they do use FAIR GAMING LABS as they "guarantee" that the games are fair. WHile most places use an accounting firm, they chose not to. Fair gaming labs uses a mathematical statistical analysis of what you should get paid, not an actual pay-out. When I questioned the bonus amounts, she said they add more per hand then most sites (obviously) and that they have fewer players, so the amounts tend to get higher. It just doesn't add up to me. While playing, the system just didn't feel right (besides the card errors!). A flush seemed extremely rare, though that can run in streaks. I wish it could be verified as being an honest, true site. At another casino rating site, when I asked about anyone winning, a person said she had won $1,000 and had to wait a few extra days for payment, but claimed she did get paid.
This may be one of those "too good to be true" sites? :rofl:

**jpm** · 27th October 2003, 04:17 PM

I've played alot of A&F and NEVER got 5 of a kind, and I've got at least one of every hand on the pay table! You must be an incredible player to have pulled that one off. :yes:

I'm curious, what did that hand pay as? 4ok or something else?

Obviously this software is NOT to be trusted one little bit.

**love2vegas** · 27th October 2003, 11:25 PM

I always dreamed of getting a five of a kind- you know- you're dealt a 4 of a kind and it seems such a waste that you can't improve your hand with the throw-away! So, imagine my surprise when it actually happened. All they paid was as if it was a 4 of a kind. When I wrote to them, I said I thought I should get an extra bonus for getting a 5 o.k., but I guess they didn't think so!