Playing at one of the rogues...

[chayton]

Only from playing poker I'm way ahead, and that's from coming second in a million dollar tourney.

Wow, that's incredible...how much did second pay?

[4 of a kind]

Just finished reading the whole thread about the Lauriejim and Mystic issue with a Virtual casino back in 08. Very interesting and sad.

Once again I would like to remind the cm family here, that I am a new member.

When I started playing online poker in 1998, I eventually started to play at online casinos probably around 2000. Before 1998 and to the present I still am a frequent visitor to land based casinos. With the endless hours and money I invested into online poker and live action, along with the endless grind of waiting for long-term, good play to be rewarded, it was becoming boring just trying to keep my bankroll above water and in the green. Yes, I did come in second in a million dollar tournament online and won $117,000.00 dollars. (11/26/06) at party poker. I’ve concluded what’s best for me after 11 years of playing online poker, that cash games online unless being played for crazy dollars, the long-term expected outcome requires way to much time to be effective. Making an occasional visit and having a great time with a couple hundred bucks is one thing. But to really try and squeeze out a profit from cash games is a huge task. If I were working for someone and getting paid for the amount of hours invested in online poker, I would be way ahead. This of course relates to the cash table grind. After spiking the big bucks in a tournament, I now only concentrate on playing big purse tournaments, and satellites trying to get into them for cheap. In two and a half years after my win, I have given back to online poker about 22k, which also includes several smaller wins between 2k and 6k. Trying to win another big online tournament is also a huge task. I will give it another two and a half years, willing to lose the same amount I already lost before I pull the plug on this strategy. This strategy requires a big bankroll to try, and thanks to my lucky win I can give this a shot. Hopefully spiking a big pay seat in a big tournament once in every five years, should keep anyone way ahead.

Being a new member, I just wanted to give some of my background here and do understand there is a separate place for poker chat. So now I’ll get back to the online casino stuff.

During and between the years of 2000 to 2007, I became a vip player at 3 well known casinos. Never once experiencing problems with cash-outs from any of the three casinos I played at, other then some taking longer then others. But always received my money and never had a reason to pursue new sites. Was happy with the three sites and had no problems. After the new U.S. law in 2007, two of the three casinos I was playing at withdrew from the U.S., including my favorite poker site Party Poker. Of course leaving me with one VIP site, which turns out to ROGUE.

Had I not been searching for new U.S. accepting sites recently, I still would have never known that where I was playing was ROGUE.

Although I read the ROGUE list here and saw the casino I play at listed, I wasn’t sure what to make of it. I obviously missed all the bad news posted about this site, and certainly wasn’t reading anything about it as it is old news here to the veterans.

This thread I started was just sharing my present experiences with the site, and after reading what’s really up with them of course I will pull the plug their. It’s obvious I get paid from them, because the long-run is good for them. But if I catch the big one, how could I expect to get paid after reading all this crap.

Becoming a member here has no doubt saved me allot of heartache in the future, when I probably would have been thinking I finally got them.

Thanks for your input.

P.S. Pinababy69 – you need to chill a little……

[spearmaster]

Ok everyone... chill.

No more warnings - just vacations.

Thanks.

[Casinomeister]

Hi 4 of a Kind - and welcome to the forum.

As you have found out, some of us get riled when we see good money being thrown to the bottom feeders, but you're a new member here, and admittedly didn't know what was up in rogue-land.

At least you didn't name the casino, that was a good move on your part since you'd be hammered by the members for being a shill. Now that would be an experience you'd want to forget.

Since you're new, please check out the "Spot the Rogue" section, and please peruse the "Accredited Casino " section which lists casinos that are US friendly. And pleeeease subscribe to our newsletter so you can keep up to date on what's happening in Casinomeisterland.

And in defense of Pinababy - sure, she gets riled up at times, she's one heck of a fire-cracker, but her postings are the outspoken ying to our mellow yang. You'd be missing out on a lot of good content by ignoring her - she's really in touch with what is going on in the players' realm and has a lot to offer here.

[skiny]

I played at a few rogue casinos before I knew what a rogue casino was. I hit a $4000 jackpot at one once and was paid in two installments. Of course I didn’t receive the first payment until I hounded them on a daily basis every way I knew how for about 6 weeks. The second didn't come till quite a while after that. I think I quoted their payment policy to them so many times I learned it by heart. They were politely being jerks about the whole thing but I can be a bit of a jerk sometimes too. And when someone owes me money I can be endlessly stubborn as well. Getting my money from them had become sort of a hobby.

Do yourself a favor and just use the casinos in the accredited list. At least if there’s a problem you won’t be sitting alone in the dark. At the very least you won’t be the only one looking for an answer. If you have a problem with a rogue casino all you’re going to get is “I told you so.” (If you're lucky.)

[Jasminebed]

I played at a couple of rogue casinos with no idea they were rogues. Never won (just like many legit casinos) so never had any big hassles. Just a spam legacy.

Now, I'm not saying everywhere you play needs to be on CM's accredited list, but there are always good reasons casinos land in the rogue pit.

You don't have to make every mistake for yourself, you can learn from other peoples.

You've been very upfront about your deposits being larger than your withdrawals. Mine are too. But a rogue casino will bite you in the behind if you get lucky enough, or get smarter about the cashout button.

Chances are the platforms you like to play at are at a CM accredited casino as well.

Good luck, and welcome to the forum. We can all learn from each other.

[GGW Laurie]

This is really my first real post in awhile as im in the midst of moving and without a computer and using the public library.

To the original poster, i cant stress how much Pina makes sense and she is right, i used to be one of those peeps and wished i would have followed so many other wise peoples advice on here , including Pina's, its your money granted but there are hundreds of newbies that read about someone winning at a rogue casino and they get hook , lined and suckered into spending money, by any means possable including over the top bonuses ect.

I ask that you sit back and reflect on what you want out of gaming online? If its entertainment with getting paid if you should win, then you need to play at casinos listed under C.M Casinos.

If one person is spared from losing their ass at a rogue casino, cause Pina ruffled someones feathers, so be it. I wish she would have been harder on me in the distant past...................laurie

[Markus]

I also play in a few rogued casinos regularly because they have good bonus offers and always pay me. And in all of them I'm ahead, so they don't only pay be because for being a losing player.

I think the Casinomeister Rouge List is a good orientation but it is not perfect. There are IMHO dangerous casinos missing and there are casinos on this list I wouldn't call roguish.

Same thing with the Accredited Casino List, most of these casinos are really good but with a few of them I already had some smaller problems.

[Pinababy69]

I also play in a few rogued casinos regularly because they have good bonus offers and always pay me. And in all of them I'm ahead, so they don't only pay be because for being a losing player.

*heavy sigh*

Please shoot me now....I give up.

So as long as they pay you......who cares if they screw over 100 other people right?

[Markus]

*heavy sigh*

Please shoot me now....I give up.

So as long as they pay you......who cares if they screw over 100 other people right?

Where is the problem? I don't harm anyone else if I play in a casino labeled as a rogue. I'm the only one who is taking the risk.

I'm not even support these casinos by giving them my money it's the other way round because of my advantage play.