Rome Casino - Analysis

[vinylweatherman]

I'm with Winbig on this one, it is pointless to give out a $20 freebie to play in real mode if you are not going to allow your customers to cash out if they happen to win off of this freebie !! Like Winbig said there would be absolutely no difference in playing in fun mode if this is the case...that is, unless you guys have your slot machines set up to pay out at different RTP rates in fun mode than you do in real mode ??

So what would be the point in testing real mode verses fun mode if there is no difference in the RTP rate ??

The point is that without risking a dime, you don't have to take the casino's word for it, you can run $20 worth of tests YOURSELF, and only when satisfied, would you conclude the casino are not up to any trickery with their fun mode.

The no cashout rule is really down to the "gamblers fallacy", as if they hit big off the $20 in REAL mode, they will think all the luck had been used up, and that the software now "knows" this big win happend, and that the games may now take it back - which players WILL believe if they have even the slightest doubt about the fairness and random nature of the games. This is not just a problem for Rome casino, players at MG casinos who hit really big from a limited chip, such as in those "free play" promotions or small free chips with max cashout, can believe they had hit big at "the wrong time", and have killed off the luck in that casino by doing so, but have not received the rewards from it.

Take GoWild. Because there was no Neteller option, I stuck £2000 in Guest mode (or fun mode), and turned it into £35000!
This is bad enough, but what if "guest mode" shared the SAME account as "real mode", and that in order to play my £35000 would be removed, and I would start again with deposit & bonus. I am HIGHLY unlikely to do the same again, and could easily believe that the gambler's fallacy means I have NO chance whatsoever now at this casino, and should just move on.

Unfortunately, the ND free chip has become a BIG target for "bonus whores", as it is a no risk way of making SMALL amounts of profit by simply going from casino to casino, playing the free chip, but not really having any intention of playing with their own money whatever level of service and fairness they receive.

It is probably better to avoid completely this "gambler's dilemma", and forget about this $20 and just make a deposit for the SUB and try the software this way, maybe replace "no risk" with "small risk".

[RobWin]

RobWin,

The answer to your question is that we do offer $10/$20 free bonuses with the conditions you're used to but only through specific affiliates that have a good history of not abusing them. In fact, I would be happy to give any of you that have participated so far in this thread $20 of real money to try Rome out and post your findings. However, again... only to those whom have contributed here so far.

Let me know,

JC.

Thanks Josh, as you know I did take you up on this offer to try your casino and games in real mode and I have to say that I did quite enjoy your different slot games a lot but I also agree with Rusty's assessment of them and I too would like to see more free spins offered in the video slots bonus rounds and also multipliers offered in the rounds and the main thing that I would suggest, is to change the minimum bet per line from 0.05c to 0.01c per line as this is a true turnoff to most video slot players and I would make this change ASAP...

I really liked the video poker games too but you really need to get rid of the menu screen on the right so that the card game interface can spread out and make the cards larger, there is no need for this to be displayed all the time as we could access this from a drop down menu button...you also need to add more video poker games to your selection too...

I plan on playing there at your casino now with a real deposit and I want to check out your speed on processing payouts too...the other thing that I would say you need to offer is an "online check facility" for processing deposits !!

[winbig]

I would suggest is to change the minimum bet per line from 0.05c to 0.01c per line as this is a true turnoff to most video slot players and I would make this change ASAP...

Case in point:

A year ago, a little while after Harrah's opened up their slot parlor in Chester, PA, they had the popular "Deal or No Deal" slots with a 1c coin size. They had about a dozen of these machines lined up, and people were 2 deep waiting to play these machines. To win the progressive (usually around $800-$1000 before it hit), you had to be playing max coins @ max lines.

Several months later, they increased these machines to 5c. Guess what happened? They're now empty. You rarely see anyone playing them now.

[RobWin]

Case in point:

A year ago, a little while after Harrah's opened up their slot parlor in Chester, PA, they had the popular "Deal or No Deal" slots with a 1c coin size. They had about a dozen of these machines lined up, and people were 2 deep waiting to play these machines. To win the progressive (usually around $800-$1000 before it hit), you had to be playing max coins @ max lines.

Several months later, they increased these machines to 5c. Guess what happened? They're now empty. You rarely see anyone playing them now.

You're absolutely right Win, Harrah's Cherokee also tried this and the exact same scenario that you mentioned above also happened there too and they later went back in and lowered the machines in question back to 0.01c machines !!

[pinsnpies]

*Located in Costa Rica* No thanks.
I make a habit of only playins at casinos licensed in Gibraltar, Alderney or by the UK gambling commission. Sorry Rome casino

[RobWin]

*Located in Costa Rica* No thanks.
I make a habit of only playins at casinos licensed in Gibraltar, Alderney or by the UK gambling commission. Sorry Rome casino

Some of the other accredited casinos here are also located in Costa Rica...

[pinsnpies]

Some of the other accredited casinos here are also located in Costa Rica...

Doesn't matter one iota to me sorry. If I win big and I mean big I don't want any fuss. My sister got burnt by a casino located in Costa Rica and it was painful to watch the whole sorry episode

[KasinoKing]

As far as I can tell the symbols are generated on the fly.
That is instead of having virtual reels with a set symbol layout they are completely different each spin.
This conflicts with what the player sees "spinning reels" and the natural result of this is distrust of the game.
I am unsure if you are familiar with Grand Virtual software but they work around this problem by not depicting spinning reels and using reveals in many of their games.
With virtual reels the player builds up a familiarity of how the game plays and with the help of some good graphic design this can encourage
anthropomorphic tendencies in the player which is much desired if you are a slot designer.

Sorry to take a long time to comment on this - but I hadn't read this thread for weeks!

As you probably know I play Grand Virtual casinos a fair bit, and from my experience I'm 99% sure their slot symbols are not generated on the fly. I can understand why anyone would think they are because of the way the reels don't actually 'spin', but if you play them long enough you will see patterns of the same bunch of symbols together over & over.
IMO they decided "why show reels spinning when it's just 'eye candy' on the way to showing the finishing positions anyway?", and decided to do something a bit different.

Sorry about the slightly OT post; I haven't tried Rome myself yet - but it's on my list!

[Rusty]

Sorry to take a long time to comment on this - but I hadn't read this thread for weeks!

As you probably know I play Grand Virtual casinos a fair bit, and from my experience I'm 99% sure their slot symbols are not generated on the fly. I can understand why anyone would think they are because of the way the reels don't actually 'spin', but if you play them long enough you will see patterns of the same bunch of symbols together over & over.
IMO they decided "why show reels spinning when it's just 'eye candy' on the way to showing the finishing positions anyway?", and decided to do something a bit different.

Sorry about the slightly OT post; I haven't tried Rome myself yet - but it's on my list!

I will look forward to your reel maps of oktoberfest and Cactus Jack then

[RomeCasino]

Doesn't matter one iota to me sorry. If I win big and I mean big I don't want any fuss. My sister got burnt by a casino located in Costa Rica and it was painful to watch the whole sorry episode

Hi Pinsnipes,

I actually understand your apprehension for casinos based on Costa Rica. Unfortunately, for US facing operations, you're going to have a very hard time finding one that's UK white-listed. If you're looking for a Casino with a very good reputation that is not US-Facing, I would suggest Spin Palace. I used to be the Casino Director at PrimeCasino and I can tell you that Microgaming runs a very honest ship and Spin Palace are definitely some of the best guys around and personal friends of mine. Obviously I'd like to do everything in my power to earn your business and your trust but if you MUST have a Malta licensee, again my suggestion would be Spin Palace. We've actually shifted focus and are looking to get our UK Whitelisted license from Antigua as it's just been added to the list. If you have any questions I could answer that would ease your concerns, feel free to ask me here or in private.

Kind Regards,

JC.