Rome Casino - Analysis

[Rusty]

Josh;
With regard to the symbol generation, I could be mistaken but I think if you try the Bingo slot, we've built something like what you've described. If you could check it out and let me know, I'd appreciate it. I think, for the most part, it's the most advanced slot we have at the moment.

I just had a very brief look.

As far as I can tell the symbols are generated in the same way as the other slots and not with virtual reels.
However because the background is represented as a bingo card ie the symbols separated by horizontal lines and not as spinning reels this is more acceptable to the player.
Also the symbols appear in a random fashion rather than sequentially so there is no pretense of this being a slot with spinning reels.
I did note that the award of free spins was the same though.

[RomeCasino]

Or the Slots, rather

Rusty,

Okay, so as I suspected, I didn't know what you meant. With respect to the virtual reels you're talking about, where can I see a really good example of this? Is this something that MGS slots do or only specific games? If you could point me to a slot that you think "does it right" I'll have my guys take a look so they can get a feel for the kind of features you're looking for. As I said, I'm having this new "exclusive" Rome slot built and now would be the perfect time to implement some of these fresh ideas. Again, I really appreciate your input and the time you're taking to review the games.

BR,

JC.

[gerilege]

I also played some of your slots last week in fun mode.
Things that I liked:
-Game tabs, although it's not a big deal.
-The bonus/cash/fun display.
-Video poker seemed to be ok.
Things that I didn't like:
-Stacked "cheap" symbols on reels. For a non-beginner slot player this tells that the mathematical model of your slots is seriously outdated.
-Very unbalanced gameplay and paytables. You have some 5-of-a kind wins that only return the triggering bet. Please don't take it as an offense, I work in a very different area of sw industry, but I could very likely create a better model and slot engine in a week or two than those. I don't have any interest in your business, but based on the slots you offer imho you should think twice whether your current development team will ever be capable of releasing a game that meets the expectations. The problem is not only the balancing, but there are serious design problems as well.
-Major problems with VP autohold, like holding two wilds and a 4 for three of a kind in deuces wild instead of two wilds only.

All in all your team did a very good job on the casino software infrastructure&framework part, but I tend to believe that they have less experience in slot design and implementation.

[winbig]

$20ND Bonus? Can't cashout any winnings from it? What's the use?

Like I mentioned to the CSR, what's the use? It's just a waste of time for both the player and the casino....and no different than playing in "Fun" mode...

..unless I'm missing something?

CSR 16:16:11
Your account has been credited with the free $20 bonus
Me 16:16:34
thanks what are the wagering requirements for that bonus, and is there a maximum cashout amount?
CSR 16:17:57
You can not withdraw the winnings from the sign up bonus
Me 16:19:04
?? I'm a little confused....if I can't withdrawal any money from the $20 bonus, what makes that different than if I were to just play with "fun money?"
CSR 16:21:00
The sign up bonus is to test our site. If you deposit you will receive a deposit bonus, you can withdraw deposit bonus as soon as you meet the wagering criteria
Me 16:22:19
so in all reality, there's no difference between the $20 bonus you just gave me and the fun money? Why go through the trouble?
Me 16:22:46
or do the games play/payout differently in fun mode compared to real mode?
CSR 16:25:41
All the games play the same. The free non deposit bonus is not withdrawable. It is a courtesy on the house. The deposit bonuses are once you meet the wagering criteria.
CSR 16:25:56
You chose if you wish to use it or not, as of a while back it is in your account.
CSR 16:26:30
Deposit options are found in the Cashier Section of your Lobby Menu.
Me 16:27:08
thanks...I just don't see why it's called a non-deposit bonus when you can't withdraw anything from it; because that's just the same as playing in "fun" mode, and just a waste of everyone's time to get it.....thanks, though

[vinylweatherman]

$20ND Bonus? Can't cashout any winnings from it? What's the use?

Like I mentioned to the CSR, what's the use? It's just a waste of time for both the player and the casino....and no different than playing in "Fun" mode...

..unless I'm missing something?

Highly unusual, but it is not quite the same as fun mode. AFTER playing in fun mode, the skeptic could use the free $20 to see if REAL mode is the same, and without having to risk a dime. The negative side to this is that they might hit big off the $20, and never ever be able to claim it as their own. This might be so offputting that they never deposit, as they may believe they had already used theit one in a million chance, and will never see the likes again.
Most casinos simply cap the max cashout, but even this can lead to problems with a really big hit.

Convincing players that slots that generate symbols "on the fly" are fair is going to be hard work. It would be better to scrap the idea and develop proper slots using virtual reels. IF these slots had proper virtual reels, the likes of Zoozie could analyze them and determine the RTP, and further see that they play fair in the software. Using symbols on the fly means the slots can be rigged, and it is impossible to tell.

By "rigged", I mean designed to "block" certain levels of payout if the slot has already paid too much previously. With fair virtual reels, such as with MG, such rigged slots would be caught out.
MG had a skeleton flushed out of the closet, as it was discovered by mathematical analysis and the reel strips that the old MG 5 reel video slots were WEIGHTED, this was completely unexpected, as MG was considered above this kind of thing. This rendered these old games pretty UNfair when less than max lines were backed.

For a new software brand, licensed only in Costa Rica, ABSOLUTE openness is the only way to gain trust. Players know that Costa Rica is NOT even slightly interested in player protection. It may be the cheapest place to operate from, and with the least "red tape", but a player has to trust the brand well over 90% to consider playing with a Costa Rican based casino.

This will be helped if Casinomeister members start trying out Rome for real, and report back that there are no issues with payment, and that the games feel "fair" in play.

There are many ideas in slot design that can freely be used without worries about patents, although this excludes the more unusual features that come from a specific development team.

Licensing branding from the likes of Eidos and Marvel should not be necessary if a really good development team is involved. Players like co-branding because they identify with the brand, be it movie, game, product, and then like to play the slot. If the games are innovative enough, players will try them irrespective of branding. So far, this does not appear to be the case with Rome casino slots.

[RomeCasino]

VWM,

Rusty has actually made a point of explaining how crucial the virtual reels are and was extremely helpful in providing me with some suggestions to take over to development. I took all of his writings and brought them directly to our project manager. She is taking Rusty's notes very seriously and will be implementing some of his suggestions. Her response, in fact, was that on our "non-production" servers, we are testing some much more advanced slots similar to what you folks are used to with MGS and RTG. These new games include the virtual reels that you and Rusty are talking about. There are many other features that will be added but TopGame has asked me not to comment on those until they are released. Having said that, they should be done before the end of the year and I will be sure to post here in detail as soon as they're available.

BR,

JC.

[RomeCasino]

WinBig,

VWM has basically beaten me to the explanation for this. The promotion may not be of interest to you but we've found it to be quite effective in getting people to try the software out in "real money mode". Having said that, I'd be happy to credit you with $20 of real money with no playthrough limitations if you'd like to test the software out and report your findings here. If you're interested, please provide me with your account information via PM and I'll have it credited today. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the whole experience, to be honest.

BR,

JC.

$20ND Bonus? Can't cashout any winnings from it? What's the use?

Like I mentioned to the CSR, what's the use? It's just a waste of time for both the player and the casino....and no different than playing in "Fun" mode...

..unless I'm missing something?

[RobWin]

WinBig,

VWM has basically beaten me to the explanation for this. The promotion may not be of interest to you but we've found it to be quite effective in getting people to try the software out in "real money mode". Having said that, I'd be happy to credit you with $20 of real money with no playthrough limitations if you'd like to test the software out and report your findings here. If you're interested, please provide me with your account information via PM and I'll have it credited today. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the whole experience, to be honest.

BR,

JC.

I'm with Winbig on this one, it is pointless to give out a $20 freebie to play in real mode if you are not going to allow your customers to cash out if they happen to win off of this freebie !! Like Winbig said there would be absolutely no difference in playing in fun mode if this is the case...that is, unless you guys have your slot machines set up to pay out at different RTP rates in fun mode than you do in real mode ??

So what would be the point in testing real mode verses fun mode if there is no difference in the RTP rate ??

[RomeCasino]

I'm with Winbig on this one, it is pointless to give out a $20 freebie to play in real mode if you are not going to allow your customers to cash out if they happen to win off of this freebie !! Like Winbig said there would be absolutely no difference in playing in fun mode if this is the case...that is, unless you guys have your slot machines set up to pay out at different RTP rates in fun mode than you do in real mode ??

So what would be the point in testing real mode verses fun mode if there is no difference in the RTP rate ??

RobWin,

The answer to your question is that we do offer $10/$20 free bonuses with the conditions you're used to but only through specific affiliates that have a good history of not abusing them. In fact, I would be happy to give any of you that have participated so far in this thread $20 of real money to try Rome out and post your findings. However, again... only to those whom have contributed here so far.

Let me know,

JC.

[RobWin]

RobWin,

The answer to your question is that we do offer $10/$20 free bonuses with the conditions you're used to but only through specific affiliates that have a good history of not abusing them. In fact, I would be happy to give any of you that have participated so far in this thread $20 of real money to try Rome out and post your findings. However, again... only to those whom have contributed here so far.

Let me know,

JC.

JC, I will take you up on that offer in order to test the water there at your casino...let me get an account set up this morning and I will private message you my user name so you can credit my $20 to my account...