Rome Casino - Analysis

[RomeCasino]

Hi lots0,

I'm confused as to what you think we're being untruthful about. I have just explained the reason for sharing the same merchant account as our software provider which is what many RTG and Vegas tech casinos do. Having said that, I maintain that we have no financial connection or otherwise to RichCasino. We do, on the other hand, have the very obvious connection to TopGame which happens to own RichCasino. I'll say this once more for everyone's benefit: RichCasino is the only Casino in the group that is owned by TopGame. The rest of us are fully independent operators.

Kind Regards,

Patricia and Josh.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by lots0

then there is this....




WTF???

So your statement of having "absolutely no connection with RichCasino"
is in fact false.

When in fact RichCasino and RomeCasino
"...are sharing merchant accounts."

I think it's fair to say that the merchant processing is run by Topgame who happen to own Rich Casino and therefore the issue of payment showing up in that name is unlikely to be a fault of Rome Casino based on the previous statement that is independently owned. I could be wrong, but I think several gaming software providers provide, or have provided, payment processing solutions to their clients.

I'd hasten to add that because this thread is in this forum rather than ATB, focusing on payment solutions is probably not worth continuing here.

[mojo]

Simply, TopGame owns Rich Casino. All other TopGame Casinos are independetly owned. They all share the same processor and software as Rich Casino. Hence the terms like 'Only process payouts on Mondays'. However, TopGame has no website or any transparency for us to refer to. Also, there is no independant game check for the players.

Do I have that right?

[jetset]

Quote: RomeCasino: Absolutely. Please go back through the thread and you'll see that I provided you with all the details regarding our hardware RNG. Unquote.

I have been back through the entire thread - prior to making that post. I am referring to your comment that you had been in contact with TST. The fact that you felt it necessary to sound out TST suggests to me that the RNG testing at Top Game from the outset perhaps left something to be desired.

Rome Casino comments from post #85: Having said that, we decided that we would look to a third party auditing solution from a company called TST (Technical Systems Testing). We have been in touch with a man named Salim L. Adatia from tstglobal.com and we are now in preliminary talks about how to test the RNG. Unquote.

There are now several online casinos belonging to what you describe as independent operators taking real money action from players, and one belonging to Top Game itself, yet normal business information on this new gambling software developer is still not available on an upfront website.

I find that unusual and even unprofessional despite the general excuses offered of it being a competitive business, soft launches etc etc etc.

[Rhyzz]

Well, after a very lengthy read of this post, I think Rome are getting quite a lot of heat for no reason here...

They're a new operation, they're making the effort to discuss their business with keen gamers and as far as their T&C's are concerned, they're just covering their backs. People have to realise that ther isn't a single operator in the world that doesn't enforce a withdrawal limit, although setting this against a progressive jackpot win is a little harsh as the money should be 'in the bank' for them, and ready to be paid.

If they have indeed lifted T&C's from other sites then they're no different from anywhere else. I see copied T&C's on loads of the smaller operators, it's simply because the bigger firms have more experienced and better educated staff who know how to write legal T&C's...what is the problem?

Just because a Casino copies another one, it doesn't make them bad or 'dodgy' - they're simply learning the industry from the big boys.

I think alot of the questions and points made are valid, such as details on Top-Game...(where are they??) but they're put forward with so much hostility, it's crazy, at least give them a chance.

[lots0]

Originally Posted by Rhyzz

If they have indeed lifted T&C's from other sites then they're no different from anywhere else. I see copied T&C's on loads of the smaller operators, it's simply because the bigger firms have more experienced and better educated staff who know how to write legal T&C's...what is the problem?

Just because a Casino copies another one, it doesn't make them bad or 'dodgy' - they're simply learning the industry from the big boys.

Yes it does!
It is called copyright THEFT.
And those that do it are STEALING.

Yes, it is stealing in every sense of the word to "copy" content from one website and post it another without permission.

I don't know about anyone else, but when someone steals and then tries to justify it, by saying everyone does it... I have a problem trusting anything they say or do.

The payment processing was not the focus of my previous post. What I was trying to focus on was what was being said.

What was said was there was "absolutely no connection".
To me that means, there is absolutely no connection, not that there are connections, but we don't want to talk about them.

That was my problem, not the fact they do share payment processors with RichCasino. I am well aware of how most casino payment processing works.

I thought that maybe I was reading RomeCasino's statement out of context, but after rereading it, it still says "absolutely no connection" when in fact there are connections.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by lots0

Yes it does!
It is called copyright THEFT.
And those that do it are STEALING.

Yes, it is stealing in every sense of the word to "copy" content from one website and post it another without permission.

I don't know about anyone else, but when someone steals and then tries to justify it, by saying everyone does it... I have a problem trusting anything they say or do.

The payment processing was not the focus of my previous post. What I was trying to focus on was what was being said.

What was said was there was "absolutely no connection".
To me that means, there is absolutely no connection, not that there are connections, but we don't want to talk about them.

That was my problem, not the fact they do share payment processors with RichCasino. I am well aware of how most casino payment processing works.

I thought that maybe I was reading RomeCasino's statement out of context, but after rereading it, it still says "absolutely no connection" when in fact there are connections.

IMO, you're splitting hairs.

The way I read and understood it, is that as far as management/whatever, there is no connection at all.

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by winbig

IMO, you're splitting hairs.

The way I read and understood it, is that as far as management/whatever, there is no connection at all.

Win, I've got to agree with lots0 on this one too, it's not splitting hairs when she said in the quote below...

Originally Posted by RomeCasino

To whom it may concern,

We of RomeCasino have absolutely no connection with RichCasino, MoneyCasino, CasinoStates,7Spins or any other TopGame operator in existence nor do we maintain relationships with them. We are wholly owned and there is no connection financial or otherwise between us. Our offices are located in Israel, not in Costa Rica.

Kind Regards,

Patricia.

That Red underlined statement there was purdy clear to me...

"financial or otherwise" to me would also mean no connection between processors too...ah hell maybe I'm too used to reading the fine print and disecting it in construction contracts...

[winbig]

Originally Posted by RobWin

"financial or otherwise" to me would also mean no connection between processors too

I think people are reading between the lines...I took "Financial or otherwise" to mean that there's no connection to other casinos in regards to financial support/backing.

...ah hell maybe I'm too used to reading the fine print and disecting it in construction contracts...

[lots0]

Originally Posted by winbig

IMO, you're splitting hairs.

Maybe. Not saying I couldn't be wrong here, I could.
But it appears like an attempt at deception to me.

I have asked RomeCasino to to withdraw my affiliate application and close any affiliate account I have with RomeCasino.

I refuse to do business with anyone that steals copyrighted material or supports others that steal copyrighted material.

This will be my last post in this thread.