RTG slots absolutely BRUTAL

[debbiek]

I played at two RTG casinos tonight and the slots were absolutely terrible. There were constant losing spins and No Bonus rounds whatsoever.

I played multiple games including Aztec Treasure, Crystal Waters, Sunken Treasure...it didn't matter. One bonus round after hundreds of spins in Aztec treasure that paid nothing. I've seen it when the slots were cold, but it was just ridiculous. Hope nobody else experienced this as it was totally unenjoyable and i feel "ripped off". Be careful.

 

[SnowKatt]

I'm on the same RTG cold streak. And it doesn't seem like it matters where I go to play anymore. :sob:

 

[heatherad]

I've experienced the same since after Christmas.
Only recently did I have one or two nights that the playtime was good.
Who knows whats going on....certainly not me

 

[LaurieJim]

they do have and no one can tell me or make me beleive that they dont have hot and cold streaks!!! i have played on less than 50.00 and hit a r/j betting 1.00 and have lost a ton playing higher bets on a much larger deposit. it seems unfair until we hit something nice and then its back on that yo-yo streak again.....laurie

 

[lauram]

I played at 2 idif rtg yesterday and i had same prob. Mind you i had hit many free spins but the results from those wasnt more then a few dollars. I did notice also,
same idea if a scatter for free spins landed on first second last 3 reels just stopped. few spins was also weird the screen would flash and spins would all stop. Yet last week i played and withdrew from both so maybe off day, but it is frustrating as i feel i dont depend on having withdraw every time i deposit but
would be nice if they gave you a bit back so your play time lasted a lil longer
got free spins at both site on incan golden glove lions lair who knows what today will bring.

 

[babs7262]

Ive been trying something at a certain RTG and my $10 (ok, you can stop laughing now) lasted me over an hour!! Hubby right next to me for proof. Started at 6pm ended at 720pm. I played 40 cents from $10-$6, started on 20 cents and got bonus after bonus after bonus with retriggers. Got up to over $23 from $6 BUT...when I get to $20, I do $1 spins, when I get to $15, I do 40 cents and once I get to $6 20 cents again, bonus after bonus. It went like that back and forth BUT I couldnt get anywhere because I was betting too low so I ended losing because I no longer could take betting 20 cents lol

 

[SnowKatt]

Favorite & Least Favorite slots

I tend to stick with slots who's bonuses have the best chance of gaining more spins throughout the feature. My two favorites in that respect are Achilles and Enchanted Wench (garden). I dubb that game Enchanted Wench because of all the times I yell ''Co'mon you enchanted wench! Land on the line already!!'' lol....

If you can get her to hit, she can sometimes keep that feature going and going for a long time with the continuously added spins. I had the feature going for like 15 minutes one time. Rewards over $1000.00. Though, it's been awhile since that's happened! :icon_evil

During the feature I'll occassionally click the spin button to disrupt the variation a bit. The bonus seems to last longer than if I just let it run it's course on it's own.

My least favorites would be the ones that you have to have 5 of a kind to trigger the bonus. Like fruit frenzy. And the bet amount on FF is higher too. Ugh..

 

[SnowKatt]

Ive been trying something at a certain RTG and my $10 (ok, you can stop laughing now) lasted me over an hour!! Hubby right next to me for proof. Started at 6pm ended at 720pm. I played 40 cents from $10-$6, started on 20 cents and got bonus after bonus after bonus with retriggers. Got up to over $23 from $6 BUT...when I get to $20, I do $1 spins, when I get to $15, I do 40 cents and once I get to $6 20 cents again, bonus after bonus. It went like that back and forth BUT I couldnt get anywhere because I was betting too low so I ended losing because I no longer could take betting 20 cents lol

Yeah, I noticed that many times the feature will miraculously trigger once you've gotten to almost nothing, and are betting peanuts. Bah!

 

[ugaboga]

RTG has been great for me, can't stop winning at either Las Vegas USA, Club World or King Solomons.

Only Inetbet with no luck, large deposit and not a single feature. Must be that 40k winner

 

[SnowKatt]

Which games are you playing?? I want in!! lol

 

[ugaboga]

Which games are you playing?? I want in!! lol

Whichever ones have the large Random Jackpot

 

[lnspin]

Played the other night at a rtg . had 4300 in my account and played from $5 - $20 spins . Took almost 2000 spins and did not hit 1 single feature . went down to $0 in my account .

 

[SnowKatt]

My experience is that 1. RTG Slots only seem to let you get so far up before it starts taking it away, and then it takes it ALL if you dont cut and run. 2. I've decided to adopt the phrase ''the more you bet, the less you get''. Due to the fact that if I bet anything higher than $5, the features have low pay outs. I remember being pissed when I got a feature with a $10 bet and the feature did ZILCH. I yeilded like a buck and a half. On a .40 cent bet I hit a feature and yeilded $175 smackers. Far as having features produce 200-500.00 , the $2.00 bet has yeilded the best result. Just my experience. Although NOW, nothing's hitting squat for me... so i'm laying off depositing for a bit. lol

 

[debbiek]

funny someone mentioned Lasvegasusa casino. That's one of the places I played at last night. Started with $450, bet $5 spins and not one feature. Constant losing spins, money was gone in about 20 minutes. The other place was Coolcat casino. Started with $1200 (including 200% bonus). That place was just as bad as lasvegasusa casino.

When these slots are ICE COLD, it's best to get out and not play that night. The only slots are think are sometimes OK when bonus features don't come up are Aztec Treasure and Crystal waters. I only say this because if the Aztec King connects with other higher paying symbols (e.g. tiger, princess) you can do OK on the line. Same is true with Crystal water dolphins, but only if dolphins or king comes up on 2nd and 3rd reels. If these patterns don't present themselves, the slots are really bad.

 

[bryand]

Played the other night at a rtg . had 4300 in my account and played from $5 - $20 spins . Took almost 2000 spins and did not hit 1 single feature . went down to $0 in my account .

Ouch! I would be on cnn breaking news if it happened to me.

 

[SnowKatt]

Deb why are you playing at coolcat? lol....run away!!!! run away!!!!

 

[winbig]

Deb why are you playing at coolcat? lol....run away!!!! run away!!!!

Don't bother, she's content with them...I, among others, gave up trying to help her see the light.

 

[ugaboga]

Don't bother, she's content with them...I, among others, gave up trying to help her see the light.

Content with Coolcat? :



She must be the 1% of players they actually treat well....

 

[bryand]

Content with Coolcat? :



She must be the 1% of players they actually treat well....

But they treated me like royalty! Until I tried to cash out

 

[ugaboga]

heh..

Well, I do find an issue with people like Debbie and others who continue to use rogues like CoolCat and praise them openly on the forums. They are simply patronising a bunch of crooks.. They're giving them some legitimacy, which they don't deserve.

I believe rogues should be left alone to wither away, once you start patronising them, no matter how little you do, it gives them that small amount of legitimacy to rip even more people off....

 

[winbig]

heh..

Well, I do find an issue with people like Debbie and others who continue to use rogues like CoolCat and praise them openly on the forums. They are simply patronising a bunch of crooks.. They're giving them some legitimacy, which they don't deserve.

I believe rogues should be left alone to wither away, once you start patronising them, no matter how little you do, it gives them that small amount of legitimacy to rip even more people off....

But, that's exactly why they pay a small percentage of their players...they need someone to go around and promote them.

 

[DemonUK]

Why would people who are not messed about and paid by a casino, criticize that casino. As far as she is concerned she is quite within her rights to praise a casino who she clearly does not have a problem with. There are plenty of casinos not rogued on here that regularly 'rip people off' as you say, I bet you even play at some of them. Since Sept/Oct 07 I have now had 10/11 withdrawals paid and not one declined from 'rogued casinos'.

Maybe the one thing I have had in my favour is I am not from the USA as the bulk of the complainants seem to come from that area.

From further up this thread I woud argue that if they only paid 1% of their clients they would quickly wither and die. One has to ask the question why haven't they withered and died, there is not an endless supply of clients out there, and as rumours spread surely life must get harder to the point it is not even cost effective to try and rip the one or two players remaining clients.

Don't forget, you don't always get the whole truth off the posters on here either when they have a complaint.

In the free world everyone has opinions and the reason it stays free is that only a minority tries to force its opinions on others. Stating your opinion is fine, ridiculing/belittling someone for theirs be it well founded or not is bullying.

 

[SnowKatt]

No one's ridiculing anyone. Given the statistics based on the rogue habits, people still getting good customer service and payouts should be aware that they are still taking a risk as that could change at any time. Deb can play where she likes as long as she's treated good. But I wouldn't feel like I did anyone a service if I didn't express my opinion on the risk involved.

 

[ugaboga]

Why would people who are not messed about and paid by a casino, criticize that casino. As far as she is concerned she is quite within her rights to praise a casino who she clearly does not have a problem with. There are plenty of casinos not rogued on here that regularly 'rip people off' as you say, I bet you even play at some of them. Since Sept/Oct 07 I have now had 10/11 withdrawals paid and not one declined from 'rogued casinos'.

Maybe the one thing I have had in my favour is I am not from the USA as the bulk of the complainants seem to come from that area.

From further up this thread I woud argue that if they only paid 1% of their clients they would quickly wither and die. One has to ask the question why haven't they withered and died, there is not an endless supply of clients out there, and as rumours spread surely life must get harder to the point it is not even cost effective to try and rip the one or two players remaining clients.

Don't forget, you don't always get the whole truth off the posters on here either when they have a complaint.

In the free world everyone has opinions and the reason it stays free is that only a minority tries to force its opinions on others. Stating your opinion is fine, ridiculing/belittling someone for theirs be it well founded or not is bullying.

There are ample reasons as to why these casinos are rogued at CM.

I believe they're rogued when the amount of complaints for each casino reach a certain number and the casino shows no interest in resolving these issues. Ie, no transparency whatsoever.

Let's not forget that many of these rogues are based in Costa Rica, the funny thing is they claim to be "Licensed in Costa Rica", where as Costa Rica has no licensing authority; basically anyone can setup shop in Costa Rica, there are no requirements whatsoever. (Licensing fees, software testing, security deposit etc)

So whose going to help you when an issue arises with these Costa Rican rogues? No one in Costa Rica with, CM can't because these rogues don't care.

It's as simple as not paying winners. When people win big, they won't pay. I'm sure they'll payout a few people small cashouts here and there, but it's the big winners who ultimately get stiffed.

No one is bullying Debbie, I'm also giving my opinion as to the dangers of praising these rogues publically.

 

[winbig]

Why would people who are not messed about and paid by a casino, criticize that casino. As far as she is concerned she is quite within her rights to praise a casino who she clearly does not have a problem with. There are plenty of casinos not rogued on here that regularly 'rip people off' as you say, I bet you even play at some of them. Since Sept/Oct 07 I have now had 10/11 withdrawals paid and not one declined from 'rogued casinos'.

Maybe the one thing I have had in my favour is I am not from the USA as the bulk of the complainants seem to come from that area.

From further up this thread I woud argue that if they only paid 1% of their clients they would quickly wither and die. One has to ask the question why haven't they withered and died, there is not an endless supply of clients out there, and as rumours spread surely life must get harder to the point it is not even cost effective to try and rip the one or two players remaining clients.

Don't forget, you don't always get the whole truth off the posters on here either when they have a complaint.

In the free world everyone has opinions and the reason it stays free is that only a minority tries to force its opinions on others. Stating your opinion is fine, ridiculing/belittling someone for theirs be it well founded or not is bullying.

Nobody's belittling anyone here...

They make their money from the uninformed players that keep patronizing their site. As long as they have an endless supply of those players, they won't wither away and die.


How about the player that won 6 figures from the Virtual group, and it took over a year to get part of their money; and recently they simply locked their account and basically stole 5 figures?

References:


Locked account, $50K stolen:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...g-deposit-and-not-pay-you-as-they-said.14776/

Wanting to charge the player $3,000+ to withdraw 6 figures worth of winnings:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...rging-me-3-000-to-withdraw-my-winnings.16966/

Original complaint:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/club-player-owes-me-134-350-20.13415/

 

[SnowKatt]

If i would have joined CM a measly month sooner... *sigh*

 

[debbiek]

i play at both accredited casinos and some rogue casinos listed on this site. The point of the thread was that the slot games in either casino was equally terrible. Obviously I have been paid by Cool Cat or I wouldn't continue to deposit there.

It's just that the situation for US citizens is so difficult due to the limited selection of casinos to play which offer RTG games. Personally, I would switch to Playtech or other software (e.g. like Intercasino or GetMinted games), but don't have a choice. I just try to find a place where I have a chance of winning, slots seem fair and will get paid.

 

[SnowKatt]

i play at both accredited casinos and some rogue casinos listed on this site. The point of the thread was that the slot games in either casino was equally terrible. Obviously I have been paid by Cool Cat or I wouldn't continue to deposit there.

It's just that the situation for US citizens is so difficult due to the limited selection of casinos to play which offer RTG games. Personally, I would switch to Playtech or other software (e.g. like Intercasino or GetMinted games), but don't have a choice. I just try to find a place where I have a chance of winning, slots seem fair and will get paid.

Deb, I'm sorry the thread made that kind of turn. I have a couple questions for you though about your over-all experience. I'll send you a pm.

SnowKatt~

 

[dirtydealin]

Getting back on topic....

I am now offically done with RTG. I made a $50 deposit yesterday, it lasted all of 20 minutes at $.40 spins. Obviously I hit no features, but that was not the disturbing part, getting a single line win every 8-9 spins was. I believe this Casino, has lowered it's payout to cover a HUGE line win about a week ago.

I don't expect to win on every deposit, what I do expect is to get decent playtime with a $50 deposit. At least 2 hours, when low rolling. Hell, MG gives me a day of low rolling per $50 deposit, on average.

Anyway, i'm gonna cash in my comp points, lose that money in about 5 minutes then uninstall. For now I'm gonna stick with Rival and MG, at least I can get playtime on my deposits.

DD

 

[SnowKatt]

Which one's you been playing?

 

[dirtydealin]

Which one's you been playing?

INET is the only RTG Casino I have played at. I have had some luck with them in the past, but recently thier slots are as tight as a frogs ass. I'm sure my comp redemption won't last more than 5 minutes, after they are gone, so am I.

On a side note, I redemmed 8 comp points at TIV. I hit the feature on Scary Rich 2 times in around 20 spins. Cashed out $55 off comp points. That's why TIV and Simon Says will get my business.

DD

 

[Audioz]

I made a $50 deposit yesterday, it lasted all of 20 minutes at $.40 spins.

I believe you that, because if i play only with $ 25 and 20 cent bets (it's the same one) i also can't play a long time with them and you must be very lucky to get a bonus round, because i've experienced, that you must always lose some money in all RTG Casinos, before you get a big win.

I could experience this on difference casinos, that i've lost at the beginning even $ 50 with a 20 cent bet, without any bonus round/free spins, but after that i get a big win, or some bonus rounds in a row, but that's certainly random

 

[ugaboga]

Bodog is the worst!!!

I deposited $1000, and won approximately $55 worth at $5 bets... One feature. All winning lines included in the $55.

Awful, nothing would hit on the lines and the triggers for the feature would maybe show up one in 15 spins!!

Bodog ugh.... Used to be good, last time I played there, many months ago.

 

[SnowKatt]

I had a good beginning with Bodog back in November. Lasted a few weeks, then the play went from good to nothing short of horrible. Can no longer play there anyway, due to not having all the old gift cards I use to use as deposits... but even if i could, I wouldn't.


It's getting to where no RTG wants to pay anymore no matter where I go. When I start depositing anywhere again, it will be much less than what I use to.

 

[Audioz]

Last week i deposited $ 150 @ Bodog and could withdraw about $ 600, but i played only with $ 1 bets, so maybe you've really more chance to win big, when you play with lower bets?

 

[debbiek]

i believe the statement about betting lower leads to bigger payout. I've noticed that at the Mainstreet group of casinos. When you play $5 or up, it won't hit. I've even done an experiment in the play mode in betting $20 per spin. As soon as you change to this denomination, you'll get blanks.

The features at 20/spin pay less than any of them at $5 or $10. They definitely did something with the settings/programming with this software. When alot of playtech casinos switched to RTG, they really paid well. Not anymore.

 

[heidisue76]

"Random Jackpots"

Hello,
I have been playing at various RTG casinos through the years. I can't complain really, but I've never won anything huge. I sympathize with all of the hundreds of spins without a bonus round, and when you do get one, it amounts to nothing. I can't say how many times I've played my favorite game, Crystal Waters, and have gone from $20 to $1000, but also from $1000 to nothing. Anyway, my curiosity is with their random jackpots. Does anyone ever really win those? I've spun thousands and thousands of times on various games, and have never seen one.
Heidi

 

[ugaboga]

i believe the statement about betting lower leads to bigger payout. I've noticed that at the Mainstreet group of casinos. When you play $5 or up, it won't hit. I've even done an experiment in the play mode in betting $20 per spin. As soon as you change to this denomination, you'll get blanks.

The features at 20/spin pay less than any of them at $5 or $10. They definitely did something with the settings/programming with this software. When alot of playtech casinos switched to RTG, they really paid well. Not anymore.

Agreed. Ive constantly had $2 features pay more then $10 features....

 

[winbig]

From what I've noticed is if you hit multiple features in a small amount of time on any given slot, the payouts always suck...never once will you have a big feature win.

 

[mandyjoi]

Random Jackpots are real............

I have noticed the same thing...............none of the RTG are paying squat. I won quite a bit at the miniVegas group casinos in September, October, and November...............but I think I can count on both hands the number of bonus rounds I've hit since then. I have won at club USA last summer. Rushmore and Bodog didn't even give me crumbs.

I did hit the random jackpot at INET last March for $1,800.00 while playing Aztec Treasure. I have several friends who played there on a regular basis and we had just been discussing if anyone ever hit them. I had deposited my last $15.00 of playing money for the month. I then lost my internet connection so I had to log back in at which point I discovered that I am locked out of my account. I was already pouting because it was my birthday and I now I can't play...........I immediately sent them an email. I didn't get the matter resolved until the next day. I logged in and hit it on my second spin with a .40 bet. A strange story, with a cool ending............

 

[debbiek]

in my opinion, these casinos have turned into places strictly for low rollers (definitely not $5 or over and certainly not $10/spin anymore). They almost seem "scared" to pay anything. If you wager $2 or less, you may hit something, but maybe they're not properly funded because they can't seem to tolerate the larger wagers and possible payout.

if you go there for fun and don't mind losing 75% of the time, that's the experience anymore. It's ashame because RTG slot games used to be enjoyable and there was always a chance of winning something substantial.
Lack of competition will always make the consumer pay the higher price.

 

[debzy]

Interesting - I thought I was just having a bad losing spell but it would seem we're all in the same boat. I have a really hard time depositing to anywhere but inet so I've been playing there almost exclusively but I have noticed that no matter where I go or what I play, I can't win. This was the first month in recent history that they didn't give me a manager's bonus too. Very unlike inet - and the fact that I keep depositing and can't make the money last more than 5 or 10 minutes is discouraging as well. Maybe it's time to take a break and find something else to do with my money...

 

[lnspin]

Just went another 1421 spins without a feature at $10-$20 spin , got feature and paid 9x's bet , then went another 689 spins and ran out of cash .

Well time for me to quit again . Just not fun anymore , i know im going to lose before i even play

what im pissed at most is the hundreds of thousands of spins , and countless dollars and i never got a random Jackpot

 

[hippo925]

In my recollection, at least once every year there will be a 1-2 month period where everyone gets drained pretty badly at the well known rtg's. It always seems to be widespread enough that the threads will get huge with similar experiences. I remember mine were at bodog a few years back where i was getting those 1000+ no bonus spins on cleo's gold consistently. I distinctly remember how the games played so drastically different. Of course this could have all been in my head but i have been fairly rtg free for a while because of these experiences (inet once in a while, but very few deposits.) Getting extremely bad streaks on very high variance games is one thing, but the same type of streaks on low and medium variance games makes you wonder more about the payouts being changed than anything else...

And this is not scientific by any means, but in my experience from a while ago, the lower bets did pay out better. i tended to play sessons guaranteeing a certain number of spins, $200 at $1 bets, $400 at $2 bets, etc. so i tended to notice that you get more play at lower bets though theoretically they should all be similar. But then again, some of the winner ss show to the contrary.... so who knows?

My point is that this isn't the first time many players experienced the same thing during the same period, but it's hard to say how much of it is psychological. Back in time, i certainly thought it was very odd and took it seriously.

 

[slafs]

Just my 2 cent

I think it actually is random if you hit a big feature or not, the only problem is that you see way more features rolling $.20 or even $1 than you do rolling $20 a spin, simply because the variance is killing you that much faster. Loose 5 bet sizes of $.20 and you're down a buck, do the same playing $20 and you're down $100.

I have been playing some serious RTG slots, mainly Aztec, and have been hitting several blank bonus rounds betting $1, while hitting a nice 450x+ times bet playing $20 per spin. You just need some serious luck, that's all.

The human brain always seems to remember the best and the worst, leaving all the OK's dusting in the back..

 

[footdr]

I AM TAPPED OUT-LONGEST LOSING STREAK IN 4 YEARS

Basically I have to quit. Too few places to play and you just can't keep winning by playing same couple of casinos over and over. If it is random you should be able to have same chance each time you play, but I don't think that is true.

2 rtg casinos basically wiped me out!

I am currently deleting casinos from my computer!

Guess thats it. Hate to quit on losing note but enough is enough!

 

[Marlow]

I have made several deposits at Inet in the last few weeks with the same results. Features are few and far between and paid shit, line wins never more than 2 or 3 symbols. My deposits and bonuses gone within 1 hour. Nowhere near clearing the wagering requirements.

Yesterday,after my last deposit ever to INETBET, I emailed the casino manager to voice my concerns. I received a nasty, arrogant email in return. My account is now closed. I will not be treated like that by any online casino ever again. My online casino days are over.

 

[debbiek]

I just sent an email to the security dept from lasvegas usa casino (another loser RTG). After losing another deposit there, i requested to see the payout percentages from all casinos involved in the mainstreet group. i requested this before and they didn't respond (no wonder).

I have accounts at 4 of their casinos and will be closing all of them in the near future. I don't like what's going on at all and how they are obviously taking advantage of the U.S. situation. I really don't believe that they are not properly funded, but rather extremely greedy.