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[kreome]

They decided they ignore the Federal law but to obey the State law in the USA. Do they really believe the new federal law only concern banks and online payment firms ?!

You decide to accept US players, then accept all of them. Accepting only part of the USA does not make any sense.

Look at Bellerock group. At the beginning they convinced themselves like you that this new law is not concerning online gaming firms and all the ...

Then they figured out, well, it would be useless to continue with odd policy and then they opened all States. Do the same, you are going to make way much more money, and US player will be able to get the better odds online gaming offer.



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[KasinoKing]

Look at Bellerock group. At the beginning they convinced themselves like you that this new law is not concerning online gaming firms and all the ...

Then they figured out, well, it would be useless to continue with odd policy and then they opened all States. Do the same, you are going to make way much more money, and US player will be able to get the better odds online gaming offer.

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Are you saying the Belle Rock group now accept players from ANY of the USA states?

That would be very good news if true!

 

[Simmo!]

Are you saying the Belle Rock group now accept players from ANY of the USA states?

That would be very good news if true!

Interesting indeed...but are you sure? I assume Belle Rock still use the Microgaming backoffice banking system and was under the impression that it was Microgaming who enforced the ban on the 11 States via the software?

 

[BingoT]

Blocked U.S states:
Here is the list of U.S states that are currently blocked from playing
Any new changes on any of them.
I see mre than 11 here.

South Carolina,
South Dakota,
Alaska,
Colorado,
Connecticut,
Illinois,
Michigan,
Missouri,
Nevada,
New Jersey,
Oregon,
Washington
Arizona,
Arkansas,
Delaware,
Florida,
Iowa,
Louisiana,
Maryland
Montana,
Tennessee,
Vermont.

 

[classymom]

I wasnt aware Florida is one of the blocked States. I live there and play @ Lake Palace. I thought Florida was OK ??

 

[BingoT]

I wasnt aware Florida is one of the blocked States. I live there and play @ Lake Palace. I thought Florida was OK ??

I guess I was wrong.
I got this list from a very well known Webmaster

 

[dominique]

Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, Michigan, New York, New Jersey and Wisconsin

As far as I know all Micro except intertops follow this rule, and it is soundly based on the law.

 

[BingoT]

Thank You Dom
I knew I should of asked you first.and I come to you for alot of help too.
I'm going to blast that person for telling me the wrong info.
And we all know this stuff could change weekly.

 

[dominique]

These are apparently the states that clearly state so. There are others that are ambiguous.

But we are talking about microgaming policies here and not politics, so that's the states.

The whole law is an ambiguous mess and I don't presume to understand it.

When the US government figures out what the actual law is, they will hopefully let us know.

 

[jas2587]

Blocked U.S states:
Here is the list of U.S states that are currently blocked from playing
Any new changes on any of them.
I see mre than 11 here.

South Carolina,
South Dakota,
Alaska,
Colorado,
Connecticut,
Illinois,
Michigan,
Missouri,
Nevada,
New Jersey,
Oregon,
Washington
Arizona,
Arkansas,
Delaware,
Florida,
Iowa,
Louisiana,
Maryland
Montana,
Tennessee,
Vermont.

I am in FL
an play at the Belle Rock Group an Fl


Cindy

 

[BingoT]

I am in FL
an play at the Belle Rock Group an Fl
Cindy

Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, Michigan, New York, New Jersey and Wisconsin
As far as I know all Micro except intertops follow this rule, and it is soundly based on the law.

Hey Cindy Lou Dom told us.
I only got this list from someone.
We all make mistakes I guess.

These are apparently the states that clearly state so. There are others that are ambiguous.
But we are talking about microgaming policies here and not politics, so that's the states.
The whole law is an ambiguous mess and I don't presume to understand it.
When the US government figures out what the actual law is, they will hopefully let us know.

This is so true too what Dom said.
It's a mess day in & day out.

 

[kreome]

I remember someone said on the winneronline.com promotion forum "accept all US now" reg Bellerock, It was an affiliate not a player...

Well, I was wrong but still , dont you think it is funny and stupid to obey the State law while you don't obey the federal one ??? It is the stupiest policy for me, and dont tell me the new law is ambigious I read it and it is not. Bellerock also in charge of the money issues by some companies transfering the funds to them.

If you are breaching the law and any casino that accept US player is, Dont tell us stories about obeying some unimportant State laws

We all know the American way, once they arrest one of the big managers there and he will tell them about the casino policy they will laugh at him all the way to jail.

If you are a criminal then be one to the end.

Dont understand me wrong, I think this whole law is a big sign of hypocracy , American players wont get the best odds in sportsbook and comps online casinos give, it is a shame

 

[The Dude]

Hi kreome,

Perhaps you are not understanding the laws fully and that's why it seems confusing. Actually, I don't believe there is any actual federal law that prohibits online gaming. The DoJ feels that the wire act (a federal law) includes online casino gaming, but so far no one has been arrested unless sportsbetting was involved. But since the Federal climate is so anti-gambling (unless you deal with state lotteries or horse racing), most of the public gaming companies have pulled out of the US market 100%.

States have the right to enact their own laws - and those 11 states all have laws that prohibit online gambling.

For further reading, please refer to Prof. I. Nelson Rose's website. Lot's of good info there:

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[maxd]

For further reading, please refer to Prof. I. Nelson Rose's website. ....

Just a footnote to add that Nelson Rose has been doing his "Gambling and the Law" thing for many years now. The guy is not the most entertaining writer in the world but he has been around almost since the beginning and he knows what's what. As B said, lot's of good info to be had there.