How Many Online Casinos Cheat?

[winbig]

He has my vote.

Mine too. He has now achieved "nothing but crap" status. Hover your mouse over the red blocks

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[kimss]

I would say I win more than i lose at blackjack, sometimes I double up, sometimes I bust the bankroll. I go into a casino with a gambling budget. As soon as i walk in the doors I consider it lost. If I win great, if I lose, no big deal, I just head for the bar

Thanks for your reply, it would be fun to know if you would do the same in online gambling. I have also seen some incredible cards in real casinoes, especially when changing dealer, LOL. On the other hand, going for the bar in an excellent tactic!

[EasyRhino]

Wait, Theodoros, the time you lost the 198 units, you said you were varying your bets? .. how much, and how often?

[ThodorisK]

usually from 1$ to 3$, I also made a few higher bets. I havent taken it down. But I was assuming I was flatbetting, and I gave these risk of ruin analysis as an indicator only.

Yes, I know, the variance of a 2$ flatbetting is less than the variance of changing bets from 1$ to 3$ (or am I wrong?)

But shoulnd I have some big ups too? Why all the way to the bottom?

And what about my big bets losing much more than my small bets? Isnt that an additional factor that suggests cheating? Shouldnt' we take in account this factor? But how?

It might be that I had a greater risk of ruin compared to the risk of ruin I would have if I was flatvetting, but isn't this difference due to the additional possibility that the 3$ bets losing much more often than the 1$?

Too complicated. I give up for the moment. I am tired and I must do other things too besides being in front of my pc. It has been months now I am doing this.

Go on, I will read the next posts.

[GaryWatson]

Thanks for your reply, it would be fun to know if you would do the same in online gambling. I have also seen some incredible cards in real casinoes, especially when changing dealer, LOL. On the other hand, going for the bar in an excellent tactic!

LOL at changing the dealer

There seems no logical reason for it but it does seem to be the case haha.

I try not to sit at the first or end box because players crazy logic.

I hate when someone puts £100 sidebet on my box when I am only playing for £5-£10


Question : Is there any statistical gain to increasing or lowering bets online? I would assume that each new deal is automatically resuffled so I cant imagine there being any gains other than having a lucky run at the right time.

Years ago I had some software that allowed me to simulate 2 million hands plus in seconds. All you did was type your preset strategy and let the software do the work. Thats the nearest thing I could get to testing strategy. I would find a strategy that works best and stick to it. Other than checking my wins and losses at the end of a session I wont waste my time working out the stats. IMHO it seems a waste of time once you have worked out your preset strategy.

[niklas]

Question : Is there any statistical gain to increasing or lowering bets online? I would assume that each new deal is automatically resuffled so I cant imagine there being any gains other than having a lucky run at the right time.

There is no gain, however if I'm playing with a bonus WR and I've lost too much I'll up my bets to win back some or bust rather than flatbetting to recover maybe half my deposit. But then again I'm a gambler and not a robotic bonus abuser

[Sam David]

Hi All,
You're right, Many casinos cheat.
After all, casinos relate to our greed, they try to buy us with their bonuses,
and make us not read the fine prints.
But good casinos are measured by a good support team, fairness and honesty.
It's very stupid of them to lose good players because of their cheating and they always get hurt and lose money in the long run.

We should only stick to the good casinos.

Sam David

[lojo]

Hi All,
You're right, Many casinos cheat.
After all, casinos relate to our greed, they try to buy us with their bonuses,
and make us not read the fine prints.
But good casinos are measured by a good support team, fairness and honesty.
It's very stupid of them to lose good players because of their cheating and they always get hurt and lose money in the long run.

We should only stick to the good casinos.

Sam David

Sam, how do you know that many casinos cheat? How many? We know of some that do not pay, and we know of more than one brand that can change the program to reduce the odds (but if the odds aren't stated, it isn't really cheating if the house edge is no more than 50% is it?)

I agree that it's stupid of some to eat the goose that lays the golden egg, and the ones that do will eventually fail.

[ThodorisK]

Look what I just found: It seems that many players met losses far below the statistical average, at GLOBAL PLAYER.
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/...urn_Joints.htm
For me the fact that they provide single deck blackjack (with particular house rules) where the player can have an edge, is of itself a little suspicious.
They had a max limit of 1000euros in this game, and by a strange coincedence, just after I accused them of cheating by e-mail, they lowered the limit to 100euros.
One more strange coincedence:When I was playing those sessions of which the stats I mentioned in a previous post in this thread, suddently my screen went BLUE with some yellow software words. This had never happened to my pc before.
I know, nothing prooved, but just mentioning.

[ThodorisK]

But there is also another form of cheating, which is not making you lose much. They can just force you not to win much above or lose far below the statistical average. This is impossible to detect (statistically proove-indicate) by reviewing the payouts of all players or of each player. This is what I explain as REASON No3 at the thread: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-outcomes.html