How Many Online Casinos Cheat?

[happygobrokey]

the 98-2 might just be a strange way of saying they take some data from an external source like those described, and then transform it, in a ratio of 49 times as much transformation as the original data gathered? but even the revelation of this could be sensitive information?

[spearmaster]

the external data is used as a seed for the RNG - the process you described has nothing to do with an RNG at all. Any calculation of any sort comes *after* the RNG spits out a number, it cannot happen before.

The use of "external events", again, is merely to provide a seed. Anything which has a discernable pattern is not useful for creating this seed - when Paradise Poker was beaten it was because the seed was discovered to be tied directly to server time. This is essentially what was referred to as "CPU-related".

Daily/hourly weather forecasts are unlikely to play any role because there are only so many degrees that are likely to occur... even values from the stock market have limited value in use as a seed.

In order to achieve any reasonable degree of randomness the seed would have to fall in a range of millions, if not billions, of possible results.

[pokeraddict]

Reputation Points: -113

Is this a record for a non spammer?

[GrandMaster]

Yes. He must be going for the most annoying poster of 2007 prize.

[ThodorisK]

I will not say anything more in this thread about the randomness of RNGs. If someone starts a new thread with the title "Do RNGs produce random outcomes?" or something like that, perhaps I will reveal my discovery there, and discuss all this matter. Anyway, whatever method they use, the results cannot be random because ...
Let me know when you start the new thread, by posting its link here.

I will only discuss cheating in this thread.

[GaryWatson]

Originally Posted by dealer wins

I play a lot of BJ online and most seems fair.

The one that really sticks out to me as being well dodgy is paddypower flash BJ (not sure what software as its not a downloaded casino).

I have played loads of sessions (over 50) and I can honestly say I have not had one decent session where I have done well. Yes a couple of small wins here and there, but not 1 really good, dealer busting, hitting 10s on double down, sort of win. (And I have had loads and loads of very bad, even HIDEOUS sessions out of those 50 sessions believe me).


Even when I get to normal land casinos every few trips will net me one or two good wins on BJ, and the same goes for most online places, but I can honestly say at Paddys something just isnt right.

(I am quite loyal to Paddys because its my local bookie and I have been betting there for 15 years) ... stupid me hey

Yeah paddy's flash software sucks. A bit unreliable. Im like you, I am fairly loyal to paddys because of their sportsbook section. On the games site I prefer gin rummy. The rake is a bit heavy. Sometimes the traffic is poor so I end up playing their bots. If I skin them a few times, they tend to play like grand masters. I dropped about 50 over the weekend at paddys, was even playing the deal or no deal game. Yeah I suspect the software is a little rigged but i enjoy playing rummy, expect to lose my deposit & just take it as a bit of fun. Rigged or not rigged I consider them like fruit machines

I play blackjack regularly live. Im not keen on playing online, not because I think it is rigged but because it is against a computerized dealer. TH.... if in doubt, dont play the game. No one is forcing us to play. Im not even going to suggest poker to you where the dealer doesnt have an interest on who wins the hand

[kimss]

Originally Posted by ThodorisK

Let me know when you start the new thread, by posting its link here.

Here is the link,
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-outcomes.html

[kimss]

Originally Posted by GaryWatson

I play blackjack regularly live.

Just a question, not to start any fires, only since you mentioned it. Do you feel that the cards delivered online matches what you get in a landbased casino? Do you have the same experience? I just wonder, not often you catch people accually gambling in real life in here.

[pokeraddict]

Originally Posted by GrandMaster

Yes. He must be going for the most annoying poster of 2007 prize.

He has my vote.

[GaryWatson]

Originally Posted by kimss

Just a question, not to start any fires, only since you mentioned it. Do you feel that the cards delivered online matches what you get in a landbased casino? Do you have the same experience? I just wonder, not often you catch people accually gambling in real life in here.

Well as each hand is presumably randomly shuffled I feel it takes away any possible advantage other than players trying to stay ahead of a bonus. I have not really played too many blackjack games online to give a real opinion of value. Any bonus I get is usually tied to my poker games so I dont really get the benefit of collecting through my blackjack.

Could online blackjack be rigged? Yes, as it is against the house.

Is it? I couldnt say either way.

Playing live, I have hit some ridiculous runs of bad luck where the dealer seems to land 5 card 21's continuously against my 2 face cards, it works the other way as well. people seem to forget the winning hands because they chase their previous losses & increase their bets until they lose the lot.

My strategy is that i rarely bust my hand
I use splits & double downs only when they are advantagous
When a lot of high cards have come out, I lower my bet a little
when the low cards are out, i raise the stakes a little.

I would say I win more than i lose at blackjack, sometimes I double up, sometimes I bust the bankroll. I go into a casino with a gambling budget. As soon as i walk in the doors I consider it lost. If I win great, if I lose, no big deal, I just head for the bar