How Many Online Casinos Cheat?

**NASHVEGAS** · 8th September 2007, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by lojo

My siggy isn't showing and it ain't no joke. Look at my avi I AM HONORING

my eyes r tired,,,,,,,,help,who r we honoring??

**lojo** · 8th September 2007, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by NASHVEGAS

my eyes r tired,,,,,,,,help,who r we honoring??

FDNY or a cop who died trying to save him

**NASHVEGAS** · 8th September 2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by lojo

FDNY or a cop who died trying to save him

Thanks, nice gesture on your part,Kudos............back to cheating casinos,sorry for derail.

**Janek12** · 8th September 2007, 12:08 PM

And one more comment: Someone wrote here at Casinomeister that some MG casinos (Fortune Lounge I think) confiscated some winnings; and most recently there was a player with the nick andjohan complaining about a Casino Rewards casino, which confiscated his winnings after he had made a profit using their bonus - that might, IMO, indicate that MG software IS PROBABLY FAIR and that some casinos panic when not making enough profit and since the software is fair and therefore sometimes the luck favours the players, they resort to such dirty tactics as to confiscate winnings and to violate their own T and C, as seems to be the case of andjohan.

But for example I had very good experience with the Casino Rewards group; each of their casinos gave me a bonus, although they are in the same group, and after busting several bankrolls (fortunately largely made from money won in their Free Play promotion) I finally won 300 USD in Casino Kingdom and they paid me promptly without any hassle whatsoever; but I must also say that I heeded the advice of KasinoKing

and did not cash in immediately after meeting the WR, etc., I am really thankful for all the advice KasinoKing provides on his website.

**Christoff** · 8th September 2007, 12:14 PM

Reckon he's from a casino?! LOL

**Janek12** · 8th September 2007, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Christoff

Reckon he's from a casino?! LOL

Sorry, I do not understand.

**happygobrokey** · 8th September 2007, 05:59 PM

how come this thread title is not in all caps anymore? did someone complain?

**thetic** · 13th September 2007, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by KasinoKing

Just one question - does it hang below the bottom of your kilt?

KK

Avatar updated just for you, unfortunatley picture taken from the wrong angle to give conclusive proof one way or the other....

**kimss** · 17th September 2007, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by happygobrokey

how do you identify "a cheating hand"? and if you know they cheat 2% of the hands, just factor that in when you solve for the expected loss. only play bonuses where you still make money when they cheat their 2% of the time. or do they cheat more if the bonus is still profitable?

What about a cheating spin on a slot? It would be very easy to set the payout for the slots way to low, say 85-90% and then control when the high wins appear. When the payout is to low, hey.... You get a 400x win which makes you happy again.

The same teqnique can easily be applied to all other gaming types.

**ThodorisK** · 11th October 2007, 06:07 PM

CASINO CLUB (Boss Media)

I had very suspicious results in Global Player and Casino Club in the past at the single deck blackjack where the player has an edge of 0.1-0.15%.
So today I wanted to make sure if they cheat or not. So I deposited 50 euros and decided to play as long as it takes. Fortunatelly, it didnt take long and I finally know with certainty now: THEY DEFINATELLY CHEAT.

In 479 hands flatbetting 1 euro, I lost 48.5 euros.
The risk of ruin probability for these values (according to the calculator: http://www.card-counting.com/blackja...culator-c3.htm)
is 4.8%.

But not only that: With a starting bankroll of 50 euros, during these 479 hands, the highest point my bankroll reached, was only 51 euros! So, what happened had much less than 4.8% to happen.

This is the most pleasant 50 euros I have ever lost. The certainty-knowledge it gave me will save me and others much more money.

And not only that, but taking also in account my previous results at Casino Club and Global Player and Pharaoh's casino at single deck blackjack (which again this 5% happened and my sample was more than 10,000 hands), and considering my results at the other casinos, I can finally be more than 99% certain: THEY CHEAT.

WAKE UP. ALL ONLINE CASINOS CHEAT
or as they like to call it: "they adjust the payoff", something which I think is supposed to be applied only regarding slots.

It's a miracle I made profits from the sign up bonuses. But I ended up far below the expected value in most casinos. But there is also another very probable explanation: Bonus hunters, beware of the monthly bonuses: The software remembers how much you have won in the past (that's exactly what an "adjusted payoff" means), and they are waiting for you to come back for a monthly reload.

Actually, if they cheated a little less, it would be hard even for me not to doubt if they cheat or not. That's what they would do if they were more clever, as in this way, they would leave no statistical evidence for their cheating. But fortunatelly, their greed exposed them.