Joyland Casino: Problem withdrawal request

[Johnny Empire]

I have resolved this dispute with Joyland Casino to my satisfaction and I'm happy to continue playing on Joyland Casino.

[Jay]

I have resolved this dispute with Joyland Casino to my satisfaction and I'm happy to continue playing on Joyland Casino.

... Unfortunately, since that time they've gone on the "Evil Casinos" list here, so I've now changed my mind based solely on this new info

Just curious whether the people who are obviously being required to say that they're "happy to continue playing on Joyland Casino" have actually gone back and continued playing.

[nafanny29]

Just curious whether the people who are obviously being required to say that they're "happy to continue playing on Joyland Casino" have actually gone back and continued playing.

My guess would be no way in a million years!!. Always brings a smile to my face when I read those posts

[GrandMaster]

Excellent post Jetset. Believe me, this will be brought up in Vegas since I am scheduled to meet with several key people next week.

And here is my "two cents".

For operators:

Do not lie or skirt the truth:. You will be caught out and busted. Never forget that reputation is everything. The ball is in your court 95% of the time, it's up to you on how you want to deal with this.

If you make a mistake in public - admit it in public. If you want to BS your way out of a bad situation, you should be willing to suffer the consequences; this industry revolves around truthfulness and fairness. And not all of your players are post-teen college students playing with daddy's money who are meant to be jerked around. Some of the players here are University professors, Artisans, Engineers, and successful businessmen and women - and they are watching you.

Admitting one's mistakes is an honorable thing, and I tried to explain this. But perhaps there are cultural differences or other reasons that prevented the casino to see the logic behind this.

It's going to take a lot of effort on Playtech's part to move on. They have lost a lot of face with the players with this casino episode.

I would add one more thing: refunding the winners' deposits and keeping the losers' money is theft and is unacceptable.

... Unfortunately, since that time they've gone on the "Evil Casinos" list here, so I've now changed my mind based solely on this new info

Just curious whether the people who are obviously being required to say that they're "happy to continue playing on Joyland Casino" have actually gone back and continued playing.

There was somebody who was forced to publish an even more grovelling apology by Connect To Casino in order to get paid.

[jetset]

My guess would be no way in a million years!!. Always brings a smile to my face when I read those posts

Same here - it's yet another indication of how irretrievably dumbass this Joyland management is!

[ElDuderino]

Here's my plan:

1) See if Bryan learns anything from Joyland/Crown at the CAC in Vegas this weekend.

2) Correspond one more time with Joyland/Playtech and see if I can get a reasonable settlement.

3) Unleash the fury to Empire, and let them know what kind of operation they're buying. I generate $100,000 of rake a year at Empire. If they buy Joyland and operate it, I will go to another Party skin.

[uscblackjack]

Agreed. Playtech software really should be put into "not recommended." And any casino related to Joyland should be rogued.

I really agree with the above. If the oversight isn't there, then trust is already partly gone. How can players really be expected to trust a no name with no oversight?

Playtech really should step in and make things right. No way paying late is ok, and this is not paying at all.

Poker sites pays winnings in like 2 hours, and a lot of these casinos take weeks. That is bs, too.

USCBlackjack

[ElDuderino]

I really agree with the above. If the oversight isn't there, then trust is already partly gone. How can players really be expected to trust a no name with no oversight?

Playtech really should step in and make things right. No way paying late is ok, and this is not paying at all.

Poker sites pays winnings in like 2 hours, and a lot of these casinos take weeks. That is bs, too.

USCBlackjack

I agree. There is empirical evidence (physical address, e-mail sent from Club Dice accidentally) that JOyland is related to the others... they should all be rogued. If not, then why was I bonus banned at Monaco Gold?

[The Gunslinger]

I agree. There is empirical evidence (physical address, e-mail sent from Club Dice accidentally) that JOyland is related to the others... they should all be rogued. If not, then why was I bonus banned at Monaco Gold?

I tend to agree too. I think it's important to send a hard line message to casinos who work themselves into this situation. Of course this kind of decision is all up to the meister, and perhaps he has a good reason for not roguing the whole group. Who know, I'd be interested to hear it though.

The Gunslinger

[ElDuderino]

Joyland, Enron, same thing:

A city boy, Kenny, moved to the country and bought a donkey from an old farmer for $100.00. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day. The next day the farmer drove up and said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the donkey died."

Kenny replied, "Well then, just give me my money back."

The farmer said, "Can't do that. I went and spent it already."

Kenny said, "OK then, just unload the donkey."

The farmer asked, "What ya gonna do with him?"

Kenny: "I'm going to raffle him off."

Farmer: "You can't raffle off a dead donkey!"

Kenny: "Sure I can. Watch me. I just won't tell anybody he is dead."

A month later the farmer met up with Kenny and asked, "What happened with that dead donkey?"

Kenny replied, "I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $898.00."

Farmer: "Didn't anyone complain?"

Kenny: "Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back."

Kenny grew up and eventually became the chairman of Enron...