Joyland Casino: Problem withdrawal request

[scrollock]

Originally Posted by ElDuderino

This guy's mangling of grammar is EERILY similiar to the Joyland casino rep who posted in this thread and the limited e-mail contact I've had from Joyland, and I'm DEAD serious.

the numeracy is the same aswell

as posted by joyland rep:

"We had a player, who used a weird way of gambling. He was playing roulette, and his wager was Black-Red and 0 (Green) at the highest possible bet he could place. I am not sure what can be won this way, but he sure wagered enough to convert quite a lot of comp points."

Even with the benefit of hindsight, they still can't figure what has gone on, except that the points system was being too generous. (incidently this is further proof that the comp point rate was set at the level it was intended).

[qazwsx]

Originally Posted by raol

Or.. CM, if you send his IP to someone in the management at BW, maybe they can check if there is a user with this IP over there.

Hey fool! If I wanted my posting name from Bonuswhores or Casinomeister or RGP used here, I would not have made this account. I made it because I knew it was going to be 50 against 1.

I wish to use the forums in the future under my real name, especially this one, but knew I would never be able to discuss my opinion in the future without losing credibility because of this thread. You have proven this in your zeal to match the IP's.

I can't stop either Webmaster from comparing my information, but I would think that non-thieves would want to stick to the topic at hand, not my identity.

[andrew26]

Originally Posted by qazwsx

I would never be able to discuss my opinion in the future without losing credibility because of this thread.

Ha.

That's the first thing you have said that makes ANY sense.

[Annorax]

Originally Posted by qazwsx

Hey fool! If I wanted my posting name from Bonuswhores or Casinomeister or RGP used here, I would not have made this account. I made it because I knew it was going to be 50 against 1.

I wish to use the forums in the future under my real name, especially this one, but knew I would never be able to discuss my opinion in the future without losing credibility because of this thread. You have proven this in your zeal to match the IP's.

I can't stop either Webmaster from comparing my information, but I would think that non-thieves would want to stick to the topic at hand, not my identity.

Non-thieves want to know once and for all whether you're a Joyland employee, a clueless monkey, or a troll. My money's on "all of the above"

[Jay]

Originally Posted by qazwsx

Hey fool! If I wanted my posting name from Bonuswhores or Casinomeister or RGP used here, I would not have made this account. I made it because I knew it was going to be 50 against 1.

I wish to use the forums in the future under my real name, especially this one, but knew I would never be able to discuss my opinion in the future without losing credibility because of this thread. You have proven this in your zeal to match the IP's.

I can't stop either Webmaster from comparing my information, but I would think that non-thieves would want to stick to the topic at hand, not my identity.

So you have an account here, and then you created a second account solely so that you could call other CM forum members liars and thieves while you remained anonymous.

Wow, you're right, you clearly have higher morals than the rest of us. If I were running a forum, I'd ban someone who made multiple accounts like that. And then I'd warn people who run other forums about him.

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by freakin

Don't forget the Party at the Klondike. Yet another case of a casino screwup that cost them money which they paid out.

It is a great story, I read about it in Blackjack Autumn by Barry Meadows. It is surprising that it took so long for the casino to figure out what was going on. It must have been odd that that a casino where $5 bettor were high rollers was suddenly full of people betting $100, who were literally winning all the chips the casino had. Even afterwards the manager blamed a gang of card counters when this promotion could be exploited by simple basic strategy. The sad thing is that if it had been properly managed, it could have been a good promotion. For example, Harrods Casino offers promotions that if you win 5 hands in a row, you get the smallest stake credited to your account as a bonus, which gives a tidy advantage to the player, but the total bonus is capped at £100.

Joylands' management must have noticed that their turnover was vastly increased, yet they were losing money, but their only reaction was to reduce the comp rates. I have to assume that they evaluated the situation and they were happy with the new comp rate. After that point they have no right to complain.

Originally Posted by qazwsx

If you and your friend's had not pounced on it like an accident that resulted in a safe being left open at a bank, you would have no issues with this casino. Act like a criminal and you will be treated as one.

Just because they are a casino, and not a bank, does not mean they should be looted. You guys are pathetic, and the cover up after the fact was done by the portal, not the casino. Any player who hit the "convert" button every 15 minutes is a terrible thief. Terrible meaning greedy AND stupid.

If you want a bank analogy, then imagine a bank that offers 5% interest per diem, instead of 5% per annum. People large amounts and just withdraw the 5% interest every day. After a few days, management notices that the bank is losing money, so they reduce the interest rate to 3% per diem. After a week they lock the accounts and call the customers thieves.

Let me quote Barry Meadows on casino errors (Blackjack Autumn, pp. 120-121):
"The moral code in the gambling world states that if the dealer makes a mistake against you, point out the mistake immediately. If he makes a mistake in your favor - overpays you, calls a loss a push, fails to collect the proper insurance money - mum's the word. Dealer mistakes are rare, but it is gauche to tell a dealer about a mistake that helps a player. A priest who would trudge 5 miles in the snow to return a $1 bill to a supermarket clerk who gave him too much change will, at the blackjack table, overlook a $1 error in his favor. As he should. After all, it's the casinos' goal to shake every last player by the ankles to get every last penny, and they don't have much guilt over that."

I must have lost several hundreds dollars at the blackjack table at various online casinos through pressing the wrong button. No casino has ever offered to refund my money, although it must be obvious that I did not mean to hit all those hard 17s, 18s, 19s and 20s. It would be nice if I could keep my money if I win, but get a refund if I bust.

[ElDuderino]

This thread is rapidly closing in on 10,000 views. I'd guess that, what, 2500 unique people have seen this thread, minimum. Joyland is getting so many chances to rectify this situation before CM gets involved, yet does nothing. I'm just glad we have a champion in Bryan. I have NO DOUBT that after he sees how poorly Joyland is acting, he will choose to side with the players in this argument.

I'll tell you one thing. Even if Joyland doesn't GAFF about this fiasco, Monaco Gold, New York, and all the other Playtech/Crown casinos that are losing business because of Joyland's behavior will eventually force Joyland to step up to the plate. Of this I have no doubt.

[GrandMaster]

The top hit for Joyland casino on Google is the thread at WinnerOnline, the second one is the casino's own website. I am sure this is not good for business. Surprisingly, this thread is much further down.

[Bruce Hamilton]

Originally Posted by Jay

So you have an account here, and then you created a second account solely so that you could call other CM forum members liars and thieves while you remained anonymous.

No, he said he wish to, there is a difference. If you're going to stick your nose into a conversation and insult somebody else, at least get your quote right.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hamilton

No, he said he wish to, there is a difference. If you're going to stick your nose into a conversation and insult somebody else, at least get your quote right.

Originally Posted by Lying shill

Hey fool! If I wanted my posting name from Bonuswhores or Casinomeister or RGP used here, I would not have made this account. I made it because I knew it was going to be 50 against 1.

Maybe you should take your own advice.

The shill said he already has an account at BW, here at CM, and he posts at RGP too. He made a second account so he could attack people without future repercussions in his "real" accounts.