Joyland Casino: Problem withdrawal request

[Annorax]

Originally Posted by qazwsx (not really)

Hi, I'm having a bit of an identity crisis. I think I'm a Joyland supporter, and I'm irrationally and wrongfully calling hundreds of people thieves. Or maybe I'm a Joyland shill, I don't know. Click here to do the right thing with me!

Fixed your post. Can we get an IP check on this guy?

[jetset]

If q-whatever is a Joyland person it would be evidence of incredible ineptitude or maybe even criminal stupidity to try to mount a defence at Casinomeister in this manner.

Yet the poster does seem to know way more about the casino side of this disgraceful incident than the rest of us, which makes me suspicious.

And this reference to a "bug" in the Playtech software frankly bugs me, because it seems to me that there are strong indications that this was a casino employee error (on the comp points) for which the casino now seeks to transfer the cost to its players. Not a sensible or responsible strategy in my view.

John Galt's post really goes to the heart of this distraction, and the questions he raises remain unanswered by Joyland.

Was this a software fault for which Playtech is answerable, or was it a human error on the casino side?

Why were the transaction logs tampered with (and incidentally, if BW expunged their posts on this issue, it is a little rich for Joyland to be calling them on it in protesting their own innocence - the pot calling the kettle black)

How does q-whatever know who was and who was not penalised by Joyland's actions, or is this just a guess on his or her part?

The casino seemingly screwed up on its comp points over a surprisingly long timespan that could indicate negligence as well as incompetence, yet they are castigating the player community for their own mistakes.

[qazwsx]

John Galt who in no way supports the joyland protesters has even taken exception to his post in that it is suspect

ROFL

The same John Galt that spends 23 hours a day posting at bonuswhores? The same John Galt that may not have been involved, but has a dozen friends that are owed five figures?

Yes, he is uninvolved and unbiased </sarcasm>

[qazwsx]

Originally Posted by jetset

If q-whatever is a Joyland person it would be evidence of incredible ineptitude or maybe even criminal stupidity to try to mount a defence at Casinomeister in this manner.

Yet the poster does seem to know way more about the casino side of this disgraceful incident than the rest of us, which makes me suspicious.

And this reference to a "bug" in the Playtech software frankly bugs me, because it seems to me that there are strong indications that this was a casino employee error (on the comp points) for which the casino now seeks to transfer the cost to its players. Not a sensible or responsible strategy in my view.

John Galt's post really goes to the heart of this distraction, and the questions he raises remain unanswered by Joyland.

Was this a software fault for which Playtech is answerable, or was it a human error on the casino side?

Why were the transaction logs tampered with (and incidentally, if BW expunged their posts on this issue, it is a little rich for Joyland to be calling them on it in protesting their own innocence - the pot calling the kettle black)

How does q-whatever know who was and who was not penalised by Joyland's actions, or is this just a guess on his or her part?

The casino seemingly screwed up on its comp points over a surprisingly long timespan that could indicate negligence as well as incompetence, yet they are castigating the player community for their own mistakes.

Promo log entries for Playtech partners are not the responsibility of Playtech. I defy any of these "victims" to present one altered play log regarding actual wagering on games.

Why would the casino alter anything that reads

500-red
500-black
50-zero

This is their proof, not something that would be altered. Regardless, for the record, this site can't alter play logs. Why can't you people see you are being manipulated by greedy people that are BAD for online gaming and future online bonuses?

Correction, the people see it. Only those repeating themselves here are the ones arguing. That's because they are the sour grapes morons who got caught and can't understand why they are thieves to begin with.

[jetset]

Once again qazwsx claims a surprisingly detailed level of knowledge about a poster here in his *expose* of John Galt, and then follows it with more insulting comment and detail from the casino perspective.

Come on Q - 'fess up - how close are you to Joyland or Playtech?

And what makes you believe that the player community should pay for Joyland's mistakes?

[The Gunslinger]

Originally Posted by qazwsx

Promo log entries for Playtech partners are not the responsibility of Playtech. I defy any of these "victims" to present one altered play log regarding actual wagering on games.

Why would the casino alter anything that reads

500-red
500-black
50-zero

This is their proof, not something that would be altered. Regardless, for the record, this site can't alter play logs. Why can't you people see you are being manipulated by greedy people that are BAD for online gaming and future online bonuses?

Correction, the people see it. Only those repeating themselves here are the ones arguing. That's because they are the sour grapes morons who got caught and can't understand why they are thieves to begin with.

Hahahahahaha.

500 Red
500 Black
50 Zero.

First off it's "Green" when refered to in this context, second off that's not a "Zero Sum Bet" as you previously refered to.

However, your tactics are again blatently obvious.

First you come into this thread and make all types of assertion beyond what a player would typically know in your position, then when someone mentions it, you shoot back with comments that plainly seem ignorant. The above mentioned quote, along with your general comment regarding altering of what you now seem to believe are game logs, whilst the whole time everyone has been saying it's the modification of transaction histories, and what is even more rediculous is your asertation of break even betting, which players on this thread (at least 1 in every 10,000 lol) have said they played video poker, one player must've even been playing $5 coins. I've busted out $5,000 balances before playing Video Poker with $5 coins, it's not exactly a break even kinda stratagy.

So my inclination is to say that you are either someone slanted for the casinos who has come on this thread trying to stir the pot, you said more than you should, and is now trying to backpeddel by slipping in inconsistancies and plainly wrong assertations. OR, you could be a player who thinks that posting anonymously is doing more good than hard by trying to misrepresent the casino side of things, which would be a highly misguided view.

Of course there is a possibility you are who you say you are, an affluent member of the BW community, but then why exactly would you be doing what you are doing. My only reason for mentioning that is the train of logic is simple.

If you are not who you say you are (which is highly likely the case,) then you found it nessisary to lie about who you are, so if you found it nessisary to lie about who you are, you are obviously someone who does not want their views tied to their identity.

The only question is ... why?

The Gunslinger

p.s. I saw the irrelivant shot you took at John Galt for being a member of BW. Obviously I've made no attempt to conceal my identity, as niether has he. I have no money whatsoever tied up in Joyland, and my only interest in this thread is to see that this precident doesn't get set that casinos can refuse payment in the event of essentially what turns out to be nothing more than the player winning. Anyway, I'd appreciate you not bringing BW into this regarding me as I do not in anyway represent BW, nor perticularly the same views as it's manager, infact Jek and I have found eachother at odds a couple of times. I just duely find it troublesome that you would launch an attack on John Galt based only on information you were able to ascertain because he's straightforward enough not to conceal himself as you have plainly done. The attack is as rediculous as it comes because you yourself say you're an active member of the community, posting there as recently as two hours ago. Well, perhaps you are, in which case, I'm sure you'll recognize me, so who exactly are you? I think you're a liar, and I believe you are a shill.

[qazwsx]

which players on this thread (at least 1 in every 10,000 lol) have said they played video poker

You are trying to portray intelligence, yet you are completely ignorant to the scam, OR are a misleading participant.

These high wagers in a near 50-50 game were made possible by the simple activation of the spin because of the comp dollars generated. Play enough $100, or any value spins, and there will be paytable scores due to expected hits. Hits = more play time, more play time = a money tree.

500 Red
500 Black
50 Zero

Take your grammar naziism elsewhere. You knew what I meant.

As far as the transaction logs, they were not altered in ANY way. They were corrected.

What do they owe You ?!

Smarten up Sally.

[qazwsx]

Of course there is a possibility you are who you say you are, an affluent member of the BW community, but then why exactly would you be doing what you are doing. My only reason for mentioning that is the train of logic is simple.

I play sanctioned Poker Bonuses that sites condone, and find them there. Also, i find useful strategy there every now and then.

Pretty insidious stuff, huh ?

I am taking the approach I have because of the deception to THIS community by a small number of thugs, smearing a casino making an innocent mistake makes me sick especially when all innocent players were paid, and the sheer gall that some of you have makes me angry.

[Vesuvio]

Originally Posted by qazwsx

As far as the transaction logs, they were not altered in ANY way. They were corrected.

Now there's a quote worthy of Joyland

[raol]

Originally Posted by qazwsx

As far as the transaction logs, they were not altered in ANY way. They were corrected.

Nice way of putting it! How is it "correcting" to delete a requested withdrawal from the log? The proper thing to do if the casino wants to decline it, is to mark it as "declined". Totally unacceptable to remove it from the log.