Player Responsibility vs Affiliate Marketing Responsibility

[Sassy1]

Affiliates who promote known rogues end up with - nothing, just like players do.

Can you explain that a little more in depth for us non-affiliates, please?

If a group like Virtual does a media buy with a board owner, how is it that you figure the board owner ends up with nothing?

Isn't a media buy a lump sum for advertising and thus the person accepting the media buy DOES end up with something?

[dominique]

Yep, media buys are the exception, and they work if the sum is all paid up front.

Usually it's not though, some up front and some upon the end of the contract.

And media buys are very rare in the industry compared to the other payment methods. Usually only very large sites get them. The average affiliate site never gets media buys.

So, if you go to affiliate sites you will see about as many threads about non-payment from rogues as you see here.

[WonderingSpirit]

Thank you so much for joining the discussion. I tried to push the THANK YOU button on You - but I think I ran out of THANK YOU buttons or something. LOL - so --- THANK YOU!

You're right - it's probably not "MORALLY" ethical to promote a casino that you know is probably not going to make good on their wins, etc.

HOWEVER - don't you think it's up to the people who are playing to do more research before purchasing a product?

I mean - look - let's take guitars for example...

OK?

I'm a music store...

I have 10 guitars.

8 of those guitars are top of the line Fender, Gibson, Yamaha, etc.

But 2 of the guitars are cheapie, fall apart brands...

A customer comes in and wants a good deal.

I show him the 10 guitars.

I say - Here's a GREAT Guitar --- it's 2000.00

Here's another guitar - and it's only 20.00

You're gonna get the same play out of the guitars...

Now the customer buys the cheap guitar - THERE IS A NO RETURN POLICY.

The guitar breaks in one week because of poor craftsmanship.

Now - since I've had those guitars in my shop - I know there is a 50% chance that the guitars are gonna fall apart fairly quickly... Which is why they are OBVIOUSLY ---- ONLY --- 20.00...

Should I feel guilty for selling them?
NO.

Should I tell the guy - Hey - buy that guitar and it might fall apart...

Probably - but - what if I really only care about the money?

I mean - isn't that an ETHICAL question?

And aren't ethics really about personal choices?

I mean - I gave the dude options right? I showed him NICE guitars for 2000.00 but he CHOSE the 20.00 guitar.

Now - let's take that scenario into the gambling realm.

Nice casinos mostly offer lower bonuses --- sometimes none at all.
But shyster casinos often offer too good to be true bonuses.

Right?

So here is the player - looking at BONUSES - and well - the player wants bonuses for FREE - and wants the best possible bonus.

And well - they take the bonus that is the biggest - even though there are casinos that offer smaller ones...

But without the bonus - the casino "technically" costs more to play at.

So the player chooses the HIGHER bonus offers - and goes to town playing.

Now - who am I to tell the player NOT to play the high bonuses?

You catching my drift?
Ethics are a personal choice.

To me... The bottom line is this:

WEBMASTERS should PROBABLY promote only decent casinos... HOWEVER the player should be a responsible player - and whatever they choose to do with their money is their responsibility.

I DO believe better morals should be all around the world - however - who am I to tell a webmaster who and what to promote and not promote?

my 2 cents:
That example is worthless.

You did offer me a 20$ guitar. That part is right. But the comparison ends here. Because what you are telling me, is that the 20$ guitar actually is a better choice than the 2000$ guitar. You get a lot more for your money,and as I am a newbie and have no prior guitarlessons, and want to turn pro like Jimi Hendrix ( or Vinylweatherman), I trust you. You run in the music( gambling) business.

About the FBI thing:
Simmo mentioned in another post go for the source. Yeah, Right. The source that hides outside FBI's jurisdiction? Hiding in Malta, Costa Rica etc?
Only way to try to deal with sources are bannings in the U.S ,which has happened and that several countries are considering doing.

Im not to sure about laws regarding affiliates, but isnt the worst case scenario that Roanan and other ripped off players goes for the affiliate for promoting something illegal, and that it all ends in a new law banning advertising from affiliates based in the US.


To OP:You talk about advertising and Oil of Olay. Now since gambling is illegal in the US , you should compare it to advertising Marijuana.

[WagerWitch]

To OP:You talk about advertising and Oil of Olay. Now since gambling is illegal in the US , you should compare it to advertising Marijuana.

Oh my gosh - never thought of that. LMAO!

[WagerWitch]

I'm not that great about putting examples out - they are only the things that cross my mind as I'm typing...

Not always perfect - but they seem to fit as I'm thinking...

Or is it that I'm having a fit while I'm thinking... Oh I dunnno... LMAO!

Anyhow - AGAIN - great comments guys - thank you tremendously for participating.