PR: NEW HOPE FOR GRAND PRIVE AFFILIATES

[Simmo!]

Affiliate involvement has been effectively severed.

Do you mean eCOGRA have been contacted and they said they don't want any assistance? Or do you mean that because eCOGRA made the first announcement everyone else is opting to sit it out Dom?

I trust Andy, but CAP's involvement, comments saying affiliates are being "sidestepped" and involvement is being "severed", coupled with one or two terms used in the PR, I'm starting to get this uneasy feeling that there is a bit of political manouevering going on here. In fact, come to think of it, why was there even a need for a PR? I hope I'm wrong.

If CAP and AGD have contacted eCOGRA and been rebuffed then fair enough. But there's only a few days left to act if the organisations are going to help each other. No good moaning after the event...the time to act if someone WANTS to act is before the 21st.

[dominique]

Do you mean eCOGRA have been contacted and they said they don't want any assistance?

This is the case.

I can't speak for Andy or Warren, but cooperation was and still is the idea.

It's about affiliates, not organizations. The goal is to create a fair solution for all affected affiliates, and nothing else.

[Simmo!]

Do you mean eCOGRA have been contacted and they said they don't want any assistance?

This is the case.

That's a shame. I would have expected them to ask for AGD/CAP to send out mass Emails/PM's to cast a wider net at least. And it sounds like AGD/CAP had agreement from Grand Prive to use their database - they shouldn't have turned that offer down.

I'll chat to Bryan and see if he can talk to eCOGRA on monday.

[dominique]

I truly hope that for once politics can be put aside and a common goal can be pursued by everyone affected, be that various affiliate organizations or GP, Microgaming and eCOGRA.

Everyone wants the same thing here - resolution of the payment issue.

This situation has the potential of setting a precendent - a very positive precedent of the industry working together towards a common goal.

Let's do it! Let's fix things instead of destroying things. It's about time we all came together when we have a common goal.

[mojo]

That's a shame. I would have expected them to ask for AGD/CAP to send out mass Emails/PM's to cast a wider net at least. And it sounds like AGD/CAP had agreement from Grand Prive to use their database - they shouldn't have turned that offer down.

I'll chat to Bryan and see if he can talk to eCOGRA on monday.

Do you think with Bryans help and the first order of biz we could get the 21st deadline extended first and foremost? I am worried for the affs that will not make the deadline.

Dom - I did get two mails in my webmaster mail from ecogra. The first was the press release and the 2nd was the claim link. Joe didn't get either. I think this is due to the fact that I had previously signed up for ecogras newsletters where joe had not. In other words, contact mails went out to only those who already were on ecogras mailing list. Not GP's aff data which is unacceptable of course. Especially with a short deadline!

Hope that helps.

[Simmo!]

Do you think with Bryans help and the first order of biz we could get the 21st deadline extended first and foremost? I am worried for the affs that will not make the deadline.

Worth asking.

In other words, contact mails went out to only those who already were on ecogras mailing list. Not GP's aff data which is unacceptable of course. Especially with a short deadline!

It sounds to me like GP have not offered this info up to eCOGRA and only to CAP/AGD. Andy: can you or Warren step in and help resolve that one possibly?

[dominique]

I don't know that it was offered, it was on the negotiating table when suddenly the eCOGRA announcement appeared. Negotiations came to an abrupt stop at that time.

[kwblue]

ok...... I'm getting a little tired of my transparency being called 'PR'. There was no press release at all and all I did was speak the truth and offer up what has taken place behind the scenes so that everyone is on the same page (i.e., Transparency).

I know that transparency is not all that common in this industry - but let's not confuse it with something it is not. It is not a political statement and it is not a press release. It is a statement of facts.

eCogra will do the right thing and contact everyone possible. I have no list to give them. But you can bet that eCogra, if they have access to 'raw data' will have that.

If they do not have access to 'raw data' then this is all a moot issue.

[RobWin]

Worth asking.

It sounds to me like GP have not offered this info up to eCOGRA and only to CAP/AGD. Andy: can you or Warren step in and help resolve that one possibly?

It does seem though that if eCOGRA wanted to do a thorough job of this by being extremely attentive to accuracy and detail then this would be one of the first things they would ask for from GP IMO...That's just good business!
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[Simmo!]

It does seem though that if eCOGRA wanted to do a thorough job of this by being extremely attentive to accuracy and detail then this would be one of the first things they would ask for from GP IMO...
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Asking for it is one thing, but getting it is another entirely.