Mansion - bogus affiliate complaint

[AK-]

Congratulations Alan, that's two threads at PAP forum that you've managed to get shut down.

By the way, there's just one more thing. It's only little but it's really buggin' me..........Pall.....PALL!?

IT'S PAUL - You rob Peter to pay PAUL!

If you're gonig to continue to make these accusations at least spell-check!

I would rather have poor spelling then to be a thief like you Anthony. I don't think its very funny either on how your making this thread to be a laughing stock for You and Mansion when actually these are very serious accusations. Myself and the rest of the posters here at CasinoMeister are asking you why your a thief and You have yet to answer the questions brought to You.

[AK-]

Manison reps. your a jerk...and your company that stole my winning $5000 from me shows what business you are !!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Frank,

Please post more details regarding your story regarding these clowns will Ya?

[HodgeyBoy]

What questions have I failed to answer?

AK - Not paid, only 3 QA's; needs 5

GooderPoker - Did have payment Issue, but was resolved and funds were transfered to his play account 5 days before you started this thread and he withdrew at the end of March

Yoshiii - Not Paid, Fraudulent Activity, see page 4 of thread

Jackpot13 - Still has not contacted me with his Mansion account details so I can't proceed, but sounds like the issue I outlined further on page 4(Alan, you still haven't posted the URL of where you found jackpot13's post - if you do I'll have a better chance of helping him)

RamChip - PM'd me and his issue is being resolved, the solution appears to have been a very simple one

Frankensite - Have PM'd him to ask for more details

Alan, what did I miss? - What more do you want to know?

With the exception of Frankensite who has just joined the thread, all of the above information was contained in previous posts.

I agree that the accusations you continue to make are very serious, that is why I am persevering with this thread.

You made an accusation about your own account and I responded with Mansion's official position on the matter. You didn't like the answer so you go on repeating yourself. You've brought in others with payment issues, either directly or by quoting their posts, and I've responded with an explanation for each case.

I don't honestly expect you to like what I have to say about your case but to continue to pursue this so rabidly and to suggest that it is my actions that are a turning this thread into a laughing stock, I think, is inaccurate.

[HodgeyBoy]

For the purposes of clarity, HodgeyBoy is my personal CasinoMeister account.

I'll log in now from the Mansion Rep account

Anthony

[RobWin]

For the purposes of clarity, HodgeyBoy is my personal CasinoMeister account.

I'll log in now from the Mansion Rep account

Anthony

Are you sure your Real Name is not Liz ???

So what was the purpose to answer with your "HodgeyBoy" personal CasinoMeister account name and not your official "Mansion Rep" account name ??

Could you not have stated those same statements with your official "Mansion Rep" account name ??

Is that the way Mansion Casino also cloaks the real issues at hand and why do you have two separate names here at Casinomeister...JFTR...other posters have been banned for the same stunt...

[MANSION Casino]

It's a fair point to make, Rob.

The Mansion Rep account was not always handled by me in the past and some time in the future I image it will be handled by someone else.

I believe that almost all of my posts as Mansion Rep have featured my name at the bottom but I don't think there's been much doubt that these posts of the last few days have definitly been made by me; Anthony.

As for the HodgeyBoy account you can very easily check on the previous posts made by clicking on the HodgeyBoy user name. There are only two posts so it is clearly not a case of forum sockpuppets being used.

I'm happy to clarify that

[vinylweatherman]

I would rather have poor spelling then to be a thief like you Anthony. I don't think its very funny either on how your making this thread to be a laughing stock for You and Mansion when actually these are very serious accusations. Myself and the rest of the posters here at CasinoMeister are asking you why your a thief and You have yet to answer the questions brought to You.

This thread should not be allowed to degenerate into a personal slanging match, as this will divert attention from the issue at hand.

As a formal complaint has now been made through GRA, best let this run it's course. If Mansion have been doing something wrong, this should emerge, even if it takes a while.
The Mansion rep seems to need no help "putting his foot in it", as has been demonstrated firstly by being drawn into the slanging match, and then making the mistake of using his personal Casinomeister account to continue without making it clear that he and "Mansion" were the same person. This is probably OK at Casinomeister (reps having official accounts as well as their own pesonal one), but mixing the two on the same subject does look a bit "unofficial", and only reduces the credibility of the Mansion rep's official position.

Further personal attacks could well lead to account suspensions and thread locking for "cooling off", perhaps not a bad idea given that a formal complaint has been started through GRA, who have been given a link to this thread.

[RobWin]

Totally Agree Vinyl !!

[Casinomeister]

I'm just getting back into the swing of things, and I'm trying to catch up with this thread. A few points:

Max, I could provide them with 2 more players but the contention is they have changed there own agreement with me as I should not be obligated to do business with them anymore and with them making rules up as they speak.

The agreement is that you were obligated to bring in five qualified players a month. Their agreement with you wasn't changed - it's the qualification of the player that has changed. If they disqualified French players, it wouldn't have affected you, but how are they to control where your traffic is coming from? That's your responsibility, not the casino's.

...Not in one post does Mansion give an explanation for the other no pay webmasters that have came forward from me going public. Actually Mansion is doing the opposite, Mansion has yet to come up with an answer regarding why the other webmasters have not been paid and yet come up with a logical answer why I have not other then there own decision to change there own contract...

This isn't an objective observation. If there are truly other webmasters not being paid, then they need to lodge a formal complaint here at Casinomeister, at CAP, GPWA, or with the Gibraltar authorities. Unless these are submitted, they can't be taken into account; how are we to know they are legit? It could just be a slam fest.

I think I will put my last comments and leave it for the rest.

Mansion always had this "get 5 and we'll pay" policy. Take it or leave it. Its unfair, but clear. They then disallowed some players, but anyone can still get players internationally. So no terms broken yet.

It may seem unfair - but if an affiliate agrees to this term, then it is not unfair. You agreed to provide the casino with five players per month. If a casino pulls out of a certain market, then the webmaster needs to adjust his/her marketing strategy. There are plenty of opportunities for webmasters to acquire traffic from other countries. If your traffic was 90% US, you should have spent your resources building your traffic in other countries instead of spending so much time in message boards complaining about Mansion. You could have been making money instead. With a little ingenuity, you can make it happen - it's not as hard as you think.

[Casinomeister]

By the way, I was originally under the impression that this player had delivered three US players, and the casino decided not to include these after they changed their player policy. This is not the case. AK delivered three non-US players; he just needs to deliver two more. I don't understand what he is complaining about since he apparently has the ability to bring in non-US players - he was more than half-way there.