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[jetset]

Originally Posted by patrina

Good luck to lojo in his future and I sincerely hope he can overcome whatever battle it is that may come his way. And that is jmo, of course.
Patrina

I share that view, but in the context that this poster appears to be troubled, and despite repeated warnings it was almost as if he was actually seeking a final ban this time around.

IMO he didn't really leave the moderator or our host here much choice.

[maxd]

Thanks Jet, that's pretty much the way we felt about it too ... but what are you going to do? At some point it becomes obvious that the warnings and the wrist-slaps aren't working and the big boot has to do your talking for you.

[patrina]

Originally Posted by jetset

I share that view, but in the context that this poster appears to be troubled, and despite repeated warnings it was almost as if he was actually seeking a final ban this time around.

IMO he didn't really leave the moderator or our host here much choice.

Your right and I cant dispute as I have only visited Casinomeister a couple times in several months. I just feel bad for someone that has to go those measures and like I said earlier, "my oh my, lojo" I was shocked. When I first came here, lojo was one of the members who welcomed me right away and helped me out with some issues I had been having with a certain casino, and like I said I have really only seen his kind side, except for a few threads where I was a little taken back. For him to say those kind of things to someone is something I would never condone whether it be someone I liked or not. So, I was just wishing him the best in the future and that is all, I never condoned his behaviour, no way.
Patrina

[paul02085]

What was all that about? The guy had to be high. Made about as much sense as the Winward rep. One whacky thread.

[GaryWatson]

My PC is on 24 hrs a day. When I have company at home on the weekends, we are usually drinking. Most of my logins are automatic. I got a response from one of my youtube comments. Checked it & my comment was a bit nasty, I was not banned. That was attributed to my cousin.

As many people have stated, lojo has been really helpful at times. Dont always assume it is him. If it was, he's probably been drunk, hit the online casinos, overspent his budget & started lashing out indiscriminantly.

I understand Max & Casinomeisters point of view. They must have the patience of a saint to deal with complaints & sure lojo was right to get banned the other day but I feel he contributes too much to be perma banned.

M & C might disagree, as it is them who are getting the headache, but Ive felt lojo to be very respectful apart from his days off. Maybe add a no holds barred forum for drunken nights.

There is no way to perma ban anyone who is a regular online. Too many escape routes, they will still get back in if they want. In general, lojo is a good member to have. I am appealing to casinomeister to take my points on board & if lojo offers a good enough apology, reduce the perma ban to a temp one (with a major wrist slap).

And please lock this thread. Its not nice abusing someone who cannot respond. I dont know if the OP's point was resolved. If not, it needs a new thread of its own.

[jetset]

I do not agree with this approach - and certainly not with "Maybe add a no holds barred forum for drunken nights" which must surely be a suggestion made in jest, as it would result in a serious degradation of this forum imv.

We are all hopefully adults here, responsible for our actions - especially when the "three strikes and you're out" policy has been wilfully ignored.

[happygobrokey]

yeah, he lasted less than a week following his 90-day ban before going off the handle yet again. if he came back with good behaviour for a few months, and then pulled this stunt, maybe it wouldn't have been the last straw. that is to say, none of these sanctions have taught him a lesson so yet another time-out is not going to solve anything more.

maybe in a year's time, evaluate the situation and invite him back, but i don't blame the admin for not being that generous either. if three months didn't change his attitude, a year probably won't help any more.

yes he's got much more good than bad in him, and he indeed is a valued and beloved member here, however when the bad starts to show more often and is hurtful/abusive to the health of the whole system, then there comes a time when enough is enough.

i don't know what draws the dark side out of him/us, but we all have one and for many it is difficult to control ourselves all the time. it's unfortunate lojo chose to lash out and post things without thinking twice. drink probably had much to do with it, but it was a choice to get drunk and subsequently log on and reply to threads, so really that's no excuse to pass it off as yet another drunk ranting/rambling.

oh well, life goes on. those who wish to communicate with him can do so via other channels, and those who were getting tired of his antics can rest easier now. so this is a non-event, really. that's my take on it.

have a great day, folks!

[maxd]

(unfortunately this is way OT ... I'll split the thread if that begins to look like a good idea.)

I've noticed that a couple people have suggested the old "free for all" forum idea as a means to include a bit of ranting on the boards without having it pop up just anywhere.

Unfortunately that idea in practice becomes something like "let's reserve a stall in the bathroom for sex and drugs" : it just doesn't work out in practice the way you might hope it would. If you say "ya, it's okay, but only here" then your place becomes a "ya, it's okay" kind of place and the whole thing starts to go down the bog.

I think the bottom line is that either you're a place that does or you're a place that doesn't and CM is basically (much) better off for being a place that doesn't, IMHO.

[chayton]

Originally Posted by RGiants-Mo

Here is the reply to the 30 X wagering issue… which in fact is not 30 but 24. Management tells me that this wagering rule applies to both: the deposit and bonus. That is to say, you have to play 12 times your deposit and 12 times your bonus to be able to place a cash out request.

Back to the original issue...if wagering requirements are 12x for the deposit and 12x for the bonus, and if you don't take or use a bonus, shouldn't your WR be only 12x and not 24x?

[bryand]

Originally Posted by jetset

I share that view, but in the context that this poster appears to be troubled, and despite repeated warnings it was almost as if he was actually seeking a final ban this time around.

IMO he didn't really leave the moderator or our host here much choice.

Or a cry out for help. Either way I agree that he was distractive to the forum.

I don't know him personally but hopefully someone that does will reach out to him and show him the way out.