GoWild casino: problems

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by maxd

Um, if I didn't respect the "one free shot" rule then it wouldn't be much of a rule, would it?

In all fairness that rule is there to help newcomers, like you guys were once, as much as anything else: if it was open season on the PABs then we simply wouldn't have the resources to handle them all and that would mean the newcomers would never get a chance to PAB.

Anyway, that said, I have flagged the rep on this thread. As has been said, hopefully they'll be able to have a look into this.

I think there is a "public interest" case here. It is looking as though GoWild have cast the "bonus abuse" net further than could ever be justified. It is looking more and more as though it is merely the CHOICE OF GAME that is at issue, not whether any "abusive strategy" was involved.

If the playlogs from ether simply show what would be considered "normal Blackjack play", then this is simply Go Wild applying game exclusions through the back door, while pretending that EZBonus rules prevail. They now have it as a "slots only" bonus, but surely enforcing "slots only" before this date through the use of the "F U Clause" cannot be acceptable.

Since ether has already made one PAB, you should know how credible his claim might be.

Sticking to your rule will not help him, bot it will send out a CLEAR MESSAGE that we SHOULD NEVER TRY new casinos, however well presented, UNTIL they have achieved CM accreditation. This will make it very hard on casinos who want to join the forum with the intent that members try the casino and give views, and these casinos will find they have to come straight from nowhere to accreditation.
Go Wild has a profile that would usually send out all the warning signs of a rogue, the ONLY thing they had in their favour was choice of Microgaming as their software provider. They are NOT holders of the eCogra seal (no help there), they are licensed by Malta (no help there either), they are now blaming everything on a new deity (their "outsourcing company"), which is the classic "rogue" defence, deny responsibilty and refuse to communicate further.
Fro the spectacularly botched launch, this "outsourcing company" has come out looking as though they are not fit for anything, let alone being let loose on important decisions as to whether players have broken the rules or not.

Even IF players used strategies that were "classics" in the realms of advantage play, it was NOT against their rules, and the CM principle in such cases is to pay the player, and rethink the rules, even suspend the promotion altogether.

Go Wild are STILL setting up players for the same treatment, they are offering an alternative bonus that STILL allows all games, yet seem to routinely consider any kind of play on certain games as automatic bonus abuse.

Now, players have absolutely NO idea how wide a definition of "bonus abuse" is being used, and this will lead to a steady drying up of business, and they will not manage to gain a FULL Malta license (they don't actually HAVE one, by the way - I looked, but they have a "letter of intent"). It seems this is the same position that Villa Fortuna were in, they sent out those invites as they required to achieve a certain level of player activity to qualify for their gaming license - they said so themselves - an MG casino would hardly lie about this kind of thing, would they

[maxd]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

I think there is a "public interest" case here.

If you ask me pretty much every PAB is a "public interest" case since it is _always_ in the player's best interest to have issues resolved and bad casinos outed.

If there is an epidemic of cases from GoWild as you suggest then I'm sure there will be other players who have not yet PAB'd who would like to exercise their "one free shot" option here. I'm ready and willing, any takers?

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by maxd

If you ask me pretty much every PAB is a "public interest" case since it is _always_ in the player's best interest to have issues resolved and bad casinos outed.

If there is an epidemic of cases from GoWild as you suggest then I'm sure there will be other players who have not yet PAB'd who would like to exercise their "one free shot" option here. I'm ready and willing, any takers?

Seems there are, has Artico had his "free shot" yet? His case seems similar, although he admits to staking 150 credits per hand at blackjack, winning, and then switching to lower stakes of the order of 10 credits to complete WR.
This is certainly an aggressive opening, but bonus abuse? MANY players open with such a strategy from their deposit, I have done it, although not on Blackjack. I have tended to use big bets on Blackjack as a "life saver" strategy after a long negative run.

The case with ether involved Blackjack, just like Artico, but it seems more modest stakes were used, and it was simply a run of luck, which ether followed by reducing stakes and completing WR. To Me, the issue that Go Wild has seems merely to be about choice of game, players concentrating on a very small number of games, perhaps even just one, and winning from their SUB.
It wasn't against the rules, and EZBonus was employed, and NO games were ZERO weighted (which might give players the nod that these were to be considered "excluded games").

Full playlogs will answer these points, and getting the playlogs for a "bonus abuser" will show on a case by case basis what is being considered "evidence of bonus abuse" by the Casino.

There is a suggestion also that Floyd has mislead the forum by giving the impression it is only around 5 players that have had such action taken, but from the inept generosity of the SUB, and the posted playing styles from a couple of those caught, I find this small number very hard to believe.

The coming week looks to be interesting.

[maxd]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

Seems there are, has Artico had his "free shot" yet?

I'm waiting for the PABs but haven't seen a thing yet. Nothing from Artico so far either.

[rockycatt]

im uninstalling that casino now heard enough ty vm

[MissScarlett]

[QUOTE=Pinababy69;269105]Missy S, could you possibly point me in the direction of this key? I can't seem to find it on my keyboard. Perhaps this is a function only available to U.S. players?



Brilliant Comment

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by rockycatt

im uninstalling that casino now heard enough ty vm

I doubt they care, they were going to kick you out next Monday anyhow

[ether]

Just for the record, I can see that Floyd has logged in today, yet he couldn't bring himself to at least acknowledge my complaint/PMs.

On the other hand, thanks guys for the input and especially vinylweatherman for his insight (I didn't know this casino is not even licenced ) and useful posts.

[mild2wild]

Originally Posted by MissScarlett

Hey..... yeah that's right about the CS reps. They are extra attentive and friendly in a flirty way.
Maybe that's where old phone sex operators go wild when they're put out to pasture!

Thank you miss, I happened to be taking a drink of my coffee when I read that! I must go dry out my keyboard now...

[offtherecord]

Edited to increase PAB chances.