Carnival Casino (IOG Group) be aware...

[poser]

Hi,

again a thread on my nerves...

First, I get a promo mail from "Carla", stating I can get a 300% first deposit bonus at Carnival (not Carnaval) casino. I clicked the link, got on the site:
http://www.iogaffiliate.com/minisite.../?member=XXXXX (if YOU click this link, you see 777 bonus instead of 300, because you dont have the right cookie from the mail and I put in the XXX instead of a spec. number.)

On the site, all links are clickable, full T+Cs, promo-site and all other things, including the 300% offer and its terms, all in german (300% Spezialbonus). As the casino is part of IOG (as a support member confirmed), I thought ok, its their affiliate and promo site...

Ok, downloaded the casino and went to Chat, asked for the 300%:

Sorry, we can give you 200% because you came from THIS specific affiliate. Hmm, I asked, why not 300%, and he said he thinks someone want to hurt the casino with this offer !!???

IOG wants to hurt IOG ???

I just said I'm totally unsure about this whole casino and shut down the casino.

Next day, I got a call from Carnival. A man who spoke german said they were very sorry about this, but he offered me a 200% bonus again. I asked about wagering requirements and he stated it would be 12 times bonus+deposit.

Wow, I started the casino again, went to chat and asked exactly (in german):

I had a call with a 200% offer and 12 times wagering requirements. Can you confirm this offer ?

She said wait and checked and after 1 minute she stated: Yes, congrats, I can confirm this offer.

Hmm, as I'm always aware of tricks, I asked, if she is sure about the 12 times ?

--- 3 min. later, she answered: Ok, it is a 200% bonus with 25 times deposit+bonus.

LOL LOL LOL

not to say, that on their website (www.carnivalcasino.com), they offer 100%. So it WAS A VALID AFFILIATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do they want from me. Just go on my nerves I think. If not, I MUST THINK, THEY WANT TO BETRAY ME !

Avoid them, sorry.

[vinylweatherman]

What a stupid way to run a rogue casino. They should play the games AFTER they get your money, not before.

Any casino that changes the terms three times before you even deposit cannot be trusted to honour ANYTHING.

[poser]

I would not call them rogue. Really not. They pay out money if you win.

But, I never had that many errors, missunderstandings and other stuff at any other not rogue casino.

If this is really just a matter of errors and bad translation a.s.o., I can only give them the hint to fix theese things. Noone likes to feel, that even black on white printed stuff is worth nothing....

And, there's always the very bad feeling, that, MAYBE, it's all wanted...

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by poser

I would not call them rogue. Really not. They pay out money if you win.

But, I never had that many errors, missunderstandings and other stuff at any other not rogue casino.

If this is really just a matter of errors and bad translation a.s.o., I can only give them the hint to fix theese things. Noone likes to feel, that even black on white printed stuff is worth nothing....

And, there's always the very bad feeling, that, MAYBE, it's all wanted...

So my question would be Why Bother ? Are you not worried they could do the same thing with a cashout you request ?

[mysticjoz]

Poser you have me very curious here.. if this was your "first deposit" at this casino as you state here....

Originally Posted by poser

First, I get a promo mail from "Carla", stating I can get a 300% first deposit bonus at Carnival (not Carnaval) casino.

So you go to live chat and they tell you this

Sorry, we can give you 200% because you came from THIS specific affiliate. Hmm, I asked, why not 300%, and he said he thinks someone want to hurt the casino with this offer !!???.

You get upset and close the casino and then you state this...

Next day, I got a call from Carnival. A man who spoke german said they were very sorry about this, but he offered me a 200% bonus again. I asked about wagering requirements and he stated it would be 12 times bonus+deposit.

Wow, I started the casino again, went to chat and asked exactly (in german):

I had a call with a 200% offer and 12 times wagering requirements. Can you confirm this offer ?

She said wait and checked and after 1 minute she stated: Yes, congrats, I can confirm this offer.

Hmm, as I'm always aware of tricks, I asked, if she is sure about the 12 times ?

--- 3 min. later, she answered: Ok, it is a 200% bonus with 25 times deposit+bonus.

First off this "200% offer is what the same offer the chat rep was going to give you, But the day before you were not happy with with that! I do see the difference in 12x and 25x but if you want that much of a bonus, then take the good with the bad it's an unfortunate part of bonuses at alot of online casino's!

Now this is what Really made me question it all..... is when Vinyl responded to your post you replied with this..

I would not call them rogue. Really not. They pay out money if you win.

I am wondering, first off.. IF you have never depositted there, how do you know they pay out if you win??

I read and reread your post and am very confused ... the offer was not good enough from chat. but was from a phone call. but to KNOW they "pay out" if you "win" has me totally baffled.
DID I miss something here, because reading this for the 3rd time I wonder, what do you want from them? or Us here at Casinomeisterland?.. could it be
to ...

Just go on my nerves I think. If not, I MUST THINK, THEY WANT TO BETRAY ME !

Please enlighten me. because you contradict your own statements

[poser]

I know they pay, because it is a big group of casinos and poker rooms (Noble poker).

I made loads of money (1000+ $) on Noble Poker and always got paid.

And, a friend of mine got paid by other casinos of that group.

So....

There is a diff. in Rogue (not paying and so on) and trick around with mails and offers. AND, I said: ..then I MUST think they want to betray me... (Hell, maybe it's really just that one man does not know what the other does (or mails) in this casino and some kind of not knowing their own terms (not too uncommon))

It was the mass of thoses things, all in this group, that made me ARGhhh

That's not the same as: " They DID BETRAY ME ".

Don't you think there are more than two categories of casinos: rogue and great ?

[mysticjoz]

Actutally we have many categories here for "casinos"
Rogue, http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php#rogue
Not Recommended, http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php#nr
Cautions, http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php#nr

There is evil software providers, http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php#es
Bumblings, Blunders and Negligence,http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php#bbn
Fake Watchdog sites, http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php#fw

If you play at the accreditted casino's CM and his staff can help try to recoup or resolve any conflicts.. that list is here.
http://www.casinomeister.com/casinos.php

One way to check on any place you play is here.. http://www.casinomeister.com/pitchabitch/index.php which will tell you month by month all complains through casinomeister against any "casino" and whether it is resolved, rogue or pending.

At the top of everypage is a search.. type in carnival casino..
and WELL HEY THERE why would you start this this new thread???
this was the first thing I saw!!
Yet another thread started by you on the same subject??? http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...light=Carnival

Well, I thought I would help out... but apparently POSER between this thread title

Carnival Casino (IOG Group) be aware...

and this thread title one day later,,,

Carnival AND Carnaval Casinos

with your post of ...

Hi,

I just got promo offers of two diff playtechs. I cannot find (sure) info about them. Terms that I occur are IOG casinos, Crown Gaming Ldt and Global Gaming Net.

Can you clear up me a bit more ??

THX

Makes me say that I guess I misjudged you, and I don't mean that in the "I'm sorry way".... now you've peaked my interest... Why so "flip/flop" on this particular casino? What is the purpose behind a new thread?
or, why get upset at a bonus offer, but says it's ok after it's offered by the manager?

[b]I think this should explain "why" to anyone who bothered to get involved in this thread![/B]http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...earchid=256856
your list of beware, stay away and rip offs include
Cool cat
wild vegas
Mapau
Littlewood
Casino rewards
50 stars casino
Lucky Nugget
Rushmore
Grand Mondial
Carnival
Golden Palace
C Tropez, C Bellini, Cameo casino
Casino Grand Bay
Virtual...
etc...
In almost EVERY ONE OF THESE posts and threads you are whining about "being ripped off" and how they "don't pay" or (I thought this was good after the 10th time)

"BEWARE ,,,STAY AWAY FROM____________. .

I think now it is pretty apparent where your "bonus" problem lies and that would unfotunately be with yourself! Every casino has ways of keeping track of players accounts. so now that I found all this out, is there anything else you want to add?
Your list is 4 pages long of complaints agains so many casino's I won't even list them all.
everyone can click the link themselves and see what you are all about.
I tried to help out...
I hate wasting my time and knowledge. I would expect that if by chance you DID happen to win... you would not be paid according to every casino's bonus abuse terms.
And you wonder why they don't pay you?
NO Multiple accounts. No bonus abuse., the list goes on.............
half of your "casino's" are here on the rogue list..
http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php

(washing my hands of Poser... all together)..

PS.. funny a former member here was banned about the same time as your sign up.. AND... I checked out "noble poker" saw tons of Non payment complaints.

[poser]

LOL

Do you want to say I have multi accounts ? DO you want to say I abuse bonusses ? I never did one of theese things and always got paid. I play poker 90% of the time, but when I get a good email offer, why not ?

If you are one of those that think casinos can do whatever they want, hell no prob. I don't.

Mapau ??

Bellini ??

I just post, if there's a problem,that I think is not OK. I never was not paid by a casino.

I post, if I have trouble, and other can avoid it if they read this (false offers, flase T+Cs...).

Your list is a little long.. and many of these, I just asked, if someone knows about them. (and many are of THIS group !)

And in at least (!) 4 cases, the casino was open my complain, only AFTER I posted here and gave them the link to my post.

Whats your problem ?


BTW: Where do you see theese "not payment" issues with Noble ? Can you give me a link ? This would really interest me. For me, they pay in 1 or 2 days, but I'm gold level. Before, it was a longer time (5 days). I made 12 cashouts in the last months, near 2000 $.

[mysticjoz]

Getting a little testy there poser? I already said you are a waste of time.

Other members here should be informed about your constant and "carbon copy" posts....

link to the noble poker complaint..

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ht=noble+poker

or how about just looking at it all..
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...earchid=257194

After all the top two on the page are YOU and your "latest" ..

Carnival Casino (IOG Group) be aware...
Lucky Nugget (Belle Rock) Bonus Warning !! ( 1 2)

Maupau??? YES... http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...st-casino.html
C Bellini?? YES... http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...o-casinos.html which was started by a very good friend of mine.. in which you post A BIG WARNING

Hi,
I read ya post and can say I have good exp. with this group.
BUT,
BE WARNED: NEVER EVER play with TWO different accounts at the same casino from the same computer. Ok, as long, as you dint take a bonus, no prob, but I think theese playtechs give so many, its nearly impossible to play without:
SO, if you dont win - nothing.
IF you win, you will get NOTHING, because you already BROKE the casino rules, as the BONUSSES are ONLY to ONE:
HOUSEHOLD - FAIL
IP - MAYBE FAIL
COMPUTER - DEF. FAIL
FAMILY (I dont know for this group).
So, be warned.
BTW: SLOW reels are are just a sign for a internetconnection that is down for some seconds - NORMAL as hell. Nothing special.
greetz

We can add to YOUR list now Club player.. 777dragon.. C2P...yada, yada
it goes on and on...
ALL I SAID IS THAT I tried to help you out!
I was researching your complaint and PRESTO I discovered that every single thread or post you start is about a "WARNING" or "STAY AWAY FROM" and regarding a BONUS issues..
Don't tell me your search button up there doesn't work to type in "Noble Poker" because that pages shows numerous complaints on them.

But thanks for the entertainment.. anyone else who wants to see how entertaining Poser is...
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...d=257196&pp=25 Enjoy.

PS. Poser did I straight out accuse you of being a prior banned user? or was that you defending yourself for no reason?
or does your comment I quoted above have deeper meaning when you tell an experience CM member (and I do quote you!)

BE WARNED: NEVER EVER play with TWO different accounts at the same casino from the same computer.

from the same computer!! IF they are both hooked up to the same "modem" or "router" they read the same IP address...

[poser]

Hello, your links, that link to my "ohh so bad posts" (lol) are broken, can you please do the work again in your next post. THX

Well, you write pretty much for a waste of time.

Have you really read the Noble thread ?????

First, I can hardly think about a reason for a poker room (that exist that long) NOT to pay, it's not their money.

2 posters say, they never got a problem there. One, says "avoid them" because they are Playtech, (LOL), and he says its the same group as Del Rio... That's wrong too. BTW: it's 2005


AND, the orig. poster suddenly stops posting: well, got paid I guess.

And the rest, hell, I use this forum to post about casinos.

I think you like to post about others better, maybe should go to another topic forum....

And, yes, I post about a casino if I see bad things there.. Why not ...

You better go from "bonus complain" to "poster complain" OR

open a new categorie: "Poser complain"....


And for this last topic, that I should be a bonus abuser and former poster... If I was robbing casinos, I would never post anything anywhere. I think I would just take the loss if they dont pay and move on with the next collected ID card of hundreds of chinese (or russian, or...) people....

Have fun....


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