Time to put up a CM warning about usemywallet?

**lots0** · 20th May 2011, 02:32 PM

Bryan, do you think it is time to issue a warning about quicktender/usemywallet?

The time frame QT/UMW asked for has come and gone without a single word from them other than their original statement.

QT/UMY will not respond to emails and their chat has closed down. Inquiries to their 'help' form only get a canned auto response.

They are NOT talking to anyone.

They are STILL allowing people to deposit WITHOUT a way to withdraw.

No one that is owed money has been paid.

This needs to brought to everyone's attention, so they are not depositing money they will NEVER be able to withdraw...

**Novemberlady1** · 20th May 2011, 03:59 PM

I got an email today saying they were having technical problems and to check back in 5 days. Does anyone know whats up with them?

**BingoT** · 20th May 2011, 04:04 PM

Novemberlady1 Have you seen this one?
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ck-tender.html

**lots0** · 20th May 2011, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by BingoT

Novemberlady1 Have you seen this one?
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ck-tender.html

T you might not want to refer people to that thread, it has turned into another one of those personal attack threads. With derails every other post.

**lots0** · 20th May 2011, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Novemberlady1

I got an email today saying they were having technical problems and to check back in 5 days. Does anyone know whats up with them?

Ya back on the 6th of May UseMaywallet/Quicktender had an "Incident" and ALL withdrawals were stopped.

No one knows for sure what happened, UMW is not talking and that email you got asking you to wait five days... well some of got those exact same emails last Friday the 13th.(ya I know Friday the 13th... ah shit)

I personally believe that they were hacked and the money stolen. QU/UMW has inffered that the US DOJ has seized the money, but there is NO evidence to support that.
So far no one knows for sure just what happened and QT/UMW are not saying anything, in public.

But the FACT is that they are still taking deposits... without telling people that they have NO WAY to withdraw... now that is ROGUE, imo.

I was also thinking about organizing everyone that is owed money and filing charges in the UK where UMW/QT are located.

**ksech** · 20th May 2011, 04:41 PM

Since I am not a lawyer and won't pretend to even understand...
Is it possible for a class action type suit against QT possible? Even with the terms and conditions stating they are not a banking institution and once the money leaves their hands they aren't responsible? I'm only asking because...Isn't an electronic agreement considered binding, since you have used their services?

I also think a warning about QT is a must. Too many unsuspecting players will think/assume because they can deposit using QT they will also be able to withdraw using the same method. Only to find their funds aren't able to be delivered to their banking institution.

Perhaps some of the casino reps will chime in and possibly alert the players how their casino/group are handling the QT issue and possible remedies for players to obtain their winnings.

Just my 2 cents...

**lots0** · 20th May 2011, 04:46 PM

Just because someone puts it in a contract does not make it legal. (for example - If you sign a contract to sell me your first born child... is it legal and enforceable by the courts... of course not.)

And they have a legal responsibility to take 'reasonable' care of our money.. If they allowed it to be stolen when in their care, they are legally responsible...no matter what they put in the fine print.

**ksech** · 20th May 2011, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by lots0

Just because someone puts it in a contract does not make it legal. (for example - If you sign a contract to sell me your first born child... is it legal and enforceable by the courts... of course not.)

And they have a legal responsibility to take 'reasonable' care of our money.. If they allowed it to be stolen when in their care, they are legally responsible...no matter what they put in the fine print.

Not trying to get your dander up, I really don't know how far they can legally push the electronic signature bit. BTW, I'm on your side, just trying to understand some of the legalese is all. Please bear with me, as I may have some more questions (questions others may not wish to ask).

**lots0** · 20th May 2011, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by ksech

Not trying to get your dander up, I really don't know how far they can legally push the electronic signature bit. BTW, I'm on your side, just trying to understand some of the legalese is all. Please bear with me, as I may have some more questions (questions others may not wish to ask).

Sorry. I know my answers are a little short today. It's not you, it's me.

I am looking at losing everything I have worked towards for over 12 years because of this... I am not in a good mood.. So I apologize if I am coming across as being rather short and cranky.

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I am not up on all the laws that apply here either. But I will be. I have my lawyer working on this as we speak.

**maxd** · 20th May 2011, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by lots0

Bryan, do you think it is time to issue a warning about quicktender/usemywallet?

Bryan is on the road, heading to the Dublin conference, so he may not respond as quickly as usual. If you want him to see this ASAP you know how to use the "Report Post" feature.