Roulette Strategy

[davey]

Roulette is a game of chance but unlike most other casino games, the player has the advantage of only betting if the 'law of averages' are in his favour.
If you record number at land or online casinos after 1000 spins you will see that all numbers hit pretty much as often as the next. In my opinion this gives the player a chance to develop a successful strategy.

Sure, I agree there are no 'certainty systems' but there are many stategies one can use to make losing less of a certainty.

Most experienced roulette players will agree that in the majority of their roulette sessions there was a point when they were in front. The problem with most of us is knowing when the tide has turned against us and being able to quit whilst we are ahead.

That has been my challenge sinse I started playing online 2 years ago. I have a couple of lessons I have learned and they are-

(1) You must treat every session as a new beginning. In other words have an amount you want to win on the session. If it is $100 make sure you stop at $100. Don't think foolishly that this could be the day when you get back all the losses of the past 10 years!

(2) Stick you your staking plan. If you start to lose don't double up, and up, and up. A certain recipe for disaster.

(3) Probably a gamblers most difficult attribute to attain....Patience! You must have a strategy of some kind or you will lose for sure. Follow your strategy rules even if it means you may have to watch the wheel for 5 minutes. It should not be a problem with online gaming as unlike land casinos games are much faster.

(4) Another difficult strategy for all of us is also the most important and its to do with self control. Have a maximum amount you can lose in any session and stick to it!! It's taken me 30 years but I finally think I have have this one beaten.(well, at least most of the time!)

Another reason I like Bet Voyager is that you can take a certain stake into each game from your main bank at the site. Sure you can reload but it gives you a chance to have a think before you do so. Along with NO ZERO this allows you to have a real chance at actually winning.

Good luck and a lucky and happy new year to all.
Davey

[pokeraddict]

Roulette posts in the skill game section? Is there any game that requires less skill? Keno and slots require about the same skill....

[KasinoKing]

Most experienced roulette players will agree that in the majority of their roulette sessions there was a point when they were in front. The problem with most of us is knowing when the tide has turned against us and being able to quit whilst we are ahead.

This is true of ALL casino games. The other points you made were equally valid for other games, which is why I thanked your post. Great advice!

There are some forums which are just full of Roulette "systems" - all complete nonsense of course, because whichever way you look at it Roulette wheels do NOT have memories; ANY number can come up on ANY spin regardless of what has gone before, and wherever or whenever you place your chips on the table, your bet is ALWAYS exposed to the HA of the game. You can't avoid it.

KK

[Rick Deckard]

There are some forums which are just full of Roulette "systems" - all complete nonsense of course, because whichever way you look at it Roulette wheels do NOT have memories; ANY number can come up on ANY spin regardless of what has gone before, and wherever or whenever you place your chips on the table, your bet is ALWAYS exposed to the HA of the game. You can't avoid it.

KK

That's of course very true that Roulette wheels are without memories as they are true random giving mechanical devices, though davy mentioned at the end of his post that he plays at Betvoyager which doesn't have live mechanical roulette only software roulette. Realistically your playing against a near randomness generating computer algorithm (as with all online casino software games). with each result then being relayed to a 2D Roulette wheel and ball simulation, that said, it's possible the computer algorithm has a memory though unlikely. It does mean however that software results cannot produce true randomness results, only very near randomness results so much so that it's almost impossible to detect a difference through statistical checks of millions of collated spins.

As I play both mechanical and software roulette, I do observe more repeating numbers with software roulette (I put this repeating anomaly into Lost in Statistics) to which I don't see on live roulette. This could be due to many things like the fewer numbers that are spun and observed in live roulette as it much slower than software based roulette and maybe selective memory plays a part with the subconcious memory or it's possible algorithms actually do emit small runs of observable bias. Whatever it is, I win more at software online roulette playing for the repeats of numbers and that's my strongest skill/strategy along with some of the good strategy points davey posted like a proper staking plan and keeping control not going bonkers after a winning streak.

[SlotMonster]

Great post, Rick!

By the way, as for BetVoyager, it's pretty easy to check their RNG by yourself, because you are able to generate as many sequences as you want, and then put them into any analyzing tool.

[vinylweatherman]

The starting point is going to be an analysis of THOUSANDS of spins to see if there is any evidence of "bias" in the wheel. This can be the case with mechanical wheels, but casinos know this, and are ALSO analysing outcomes to check for it.

Online software is random, but software can also have ERRORS. It is possible that an error creates a bias in the outcomes.

It is easier to carry out an analysis online (no pitboss asking what the notebook is for).

Microgaming software even HELPS you do this.

If bias is found, you then need to calculate what effect it has on each number bet, and whether it is possible to create a bet pattern that produces a long term edge for the player.

A software cock-up has currently rendered Crypto Single Deck BJ slightly +EV by around 0.05% (dealer stands on soft 17, but is supposed to hit).

It DOES happen

[dazlazz]

When williamhill bookmakers 1st put roulette machines in their land based shops, there was a technical fault on the system, wherby you could track where the ball would land within a range of 8 numbers - this lead to a lot of people winning and getting completely hooked. Hills eventually realised the problem, changed the software and put an inbuilt house edge into the machines (about 20%) - seeing as these machines are not audited under UK gaming law - they can get away with it. Unfortunately those hooked are still playing and still losing.

[Jufo]

Online software is random, but software can also have ERRORS. It is possible that an error creates a bias in the outcomes.

It is easier to carry out an analysis online (no pitboss asking what the notebook is for).

Microgaming software even HELPS you do this.

I very much doubt that such "errors" are not deliberate as they always seem to favour the house. So learning which numbers come often is not likely to help as the patterns will change depending on what you bet on.

I have some doubts about the fairness of MG roulette, given how many times I seem to lose a bet on two dozens which in all fairness, should win more than lose. But it's not rare to see 5-8 losing spins in a row on two dozens and the ball seems to be really scared to land on a number that has a bet on it, so to speak.

Also, casino software Orbis Openbet has a warning of nearly impossible losing results on Roulette: http://www.beatingbonuses.com/orbis_warning.htm. Orbis Openbet is the software provider for the games section of many reputable bookies, including Ladbrokes, so these bookies might take a risk with using a software that has a history of statistically abnormal losing results, because they have a lot to lose if they get caught.

[vinylweatherman]

When williamhill bookmakers 1st put roulette machines in their land based shops, there was a technical fault on the system, wherby you could track where the ball would land within a range of 8 numbers - this lead to a lot of people winning and getting completely hooked. Hills eventually realised the problem, changed the software and put an inbuilt house edge into the machines (about 20%) - seeing as these machines are not audited under UK gaming law - they can get away with it. Unfortunately those hooked are still playing and still losing.

I heard of that

They are effectively "Fruit Machines", which are prone to "emptiers", of which was the William Hill error.

The problem is that players probably thought it was their SKILL that helped them win, rather than an "emptier". They are hooked because they are trying to re-learn that lost "skill".

Unless they make the 80% RTP quite clear, they could find Trading Standards after them, because "life experience" tells us that Roulette is NOT a slot game, and should have an edge according to the paytables.

Where a game is "rigged", like most Fruit Machines, it is now required that a statement about this is on the front of the machine. These take the form "it is possible that the player will be presented with a choice for which there is no winning outcome", and, "the odds of winning are not necessarily those displayed", which is used on machines with a Hi/Lo gamble reel with numbers. This allows the machine to throw in "12" on an "11" more than the natural odds would suggest. Skilled players KNOW this, and more

[rouletteguy]

Don't even waste your time discussing roulette strategy on this forum go join a roulette forum .......I did. You can argue til your blue in the face betting 11 streets gives you an advantage, Most here will say nope it don't, YOu can argue betting 35 numbers is a pretty sure bet you'll win 1 or 2 times easy they'll say no you won't you can argue common sense cover 66 % of the board and triple up if you lose most times you'll win 3rd spin max and again you'll get a nope there's no winning strategy in roulette response. Trust me keeping roulette strategy discussions to a roulette forum is much more enjoyable and less frustrating. Do what works for you and makes it fun Most of the posters here love the slots.
As roulette players I hear you we like to design different strategies and methods of play in an attempt to beat the wheel I'll say this once It is super easy to put into practice a winning roulette strategy time and time again what kills you is time at the wheel. GET IN , WIN, GET OUT! I can do this time after time after time, So yeah put your definition on what's long term I consider winning short term repeatedly for the long term to be a long term strategy. But over here ...........Nope black is white and you ain't gonna change it.
Common sense dictates if you play a certain way and do it back to back constantly your gonna have a bad run if you employ progression it's gonna hurt so like I said take small wins and quit forget about winning all day every day cause it won't work. But you can win 1 or 2 times a day every day pretty easy.