Whitney

PNEFOREVER2 · Feb 12, 2012

First of all,I'm not American I'm UK.

Secondly its as huge a shock to us here as to our friends across the pond she has pass on and offer our sincere condolences as she brought many hours of entertainment to us as she did around the world.

Wasn't a huge fan of hers but was massively aware of her songs and records she broke (more straight no1 records than our very own beatles-that takes some beating) than most.

I think many women will have the bodyguard in their own personal dvd collection,being the huge hit it was,and being so close to 14th feb will hit quite a few fans hard.

Anyhow,lets remember its the time we do have with these talented people that counts not the time we don't,we never know how fame may have affected ourselves if we had it.

Finally,she had her issues-who doesn't,nobody is perfect,as we found through our very own Amy Winehouse last year sometimes the people you fall in love with have too much of an influence.

The world is fast running out of singers like Whitney was in her heyday.And lets not give up on those that may have lost their way a little as they may still find theirs.

RIP Whitney

LaurieJim · Feb 12, 2012

I just heard the news , what a shock , she was an awesome singer with a gifted voice , this is my favorite and no one could belt it out like Ms. Whitney !

Laurie

LHofsdal · Feb 12, 2012

My 3rd date with my hubby was he took me to see her in concert in NYC. It was a great show! She will be missed, what talent she had. Rest In Peace, and walk with god, you are in good hands now.

Lori

chuchu59 · Feb 12, 2012

Even in Hong Kong where the population is predominantly Chinese her songs are well-liked. She really had a lovely voice.

jetset · Feb 12, 2012

Like too many other singers she appeared to have a troubled life, but it's always sad when talent like this leaves the stage.

PNEFOREVER2 · Feb 12, 2012

For some reason I get the awful feeling that even back then she was rushed a little-even with the mandatory 10,000 vocal steps that were needed to be undertaken.

Lets not forget who her parents were-she was "high predigree" as they say.

They don't come much better-if any.

slotjunkie · Feb 12, 2012

Very Sad Sad loss to the music industry. Her voice was very unique and will be a hard one to imitate.

Ms. Whitney Houston-Classic, timeless beauty who will be greatly missed and NEVER forgotten...

Seventh777 · Feb 12, 2012

Damn that`s sad

, one of my favourite songs of all time and no one has covered it better than this young man........

shaggy5500 · Feb 12, 2012

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What a shame she chose to waste away her talent on drugs, great role model she was for her daughter. Unfortunatly people in this world will idolize her versus she her for what she was - which was a drug abuser, poor parent, poor role model to millions who looked up to her and a selfish women who chose the above over wisdom and a opportunity to do good ifor others in this world with her wealth.

What a waste and what a shame is what should go on her tombstone.

P.V. · Feb 12, 2012

shaggy5500 said:
What a shame she chose to waste away her talent on drugs, great role model she was for her daughter. Unfortunatly people in this world will idolize her versus she her for what she was - which was a drug abuser, poor parent, poor role model to millions who looked up to her and a selfish women who chose the above over wisdom and a opportunity to do good ifor others in this world with her wealth.

What a waste and what a shame is what should go on her tombstone.

She's had drug problems, correct but honestly I would never judge anyone unless I've walked in their shoes.

RIP.

chuchu59 · Feb 12, 2012

P.V. said:
She had a drug problems, correct but honestly I would never judge anyone unless I've walked in their shoes.

RIP.

Yep actually it would be the same with most of us if we had lost everything. Others will be saying this was due to us having gambling problems.

shaggy5500 · Feb 12, 2012

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Agreed, however I spent 10 yrs in law enforcement and am very well versed on the destruction drugs take on those who become addicted to them. I am aslo well aware of the selfishness they will take in order to satisfy the addiction and will put aside all rational in order to get the next high.

It is a true shame Whitney became addicted and it was a direct result of her relationship with Bobby Brown but it was HER choice to continue that lifestyle so I find it hard to feel sorry for her.

I do feel sorrow for her passing away but I have issues when people place those in entertainment to a higher regard. In my mind the single mother working 3 jobs to support her kids is a hero, or the person who risks thier own safety in order to help others is a hero.

Someone who lived the life she did as with Michael Jackson should not be worshiped whatsoever.

Just my opinion and in no way mean to offend but seen it all. Lets hope she finds the peace her soul was looking for now.

pmutts · Feb 12, 2012

Worshiped is such a strong word.

shaggy5500 said:
Agreed, however I spent 10 yrs in law enforcement and am very well versed on the destruction drugs take on those who become addicted to them. I am aslo well aware of the selfishness they will take in order to satisfy the addiction and will put aside all rational in order to get the next high.

It is a true shame Whitney became addicted and it was a direct result of her relationship with Bobby Brown but it was HER choice to continue that lifestyle so I find it hard to feel sorry for her.

I do feel sorrow for her passing away but I have issues when people place those in entertainment to a higher regard. In my mind the single mother working 3 jobs to support her kids is a hero, or the person who risks thier own safety in order to help others is a hero.

Someone who lived the life she did as with Michael Jackson should not be worshiped whatsoever.

Just my opinion and in no way mean to offend but seen it all. Lets hope she finds the peace her soul was looking for now.

Anyone who literally worships another human being for any reason is wacked IMO. To look up to someone, admire their talent, or even be a fanatical fan is one thing. Worship should be reserved for God if you believe in him.

Whitney Houston had a gift--one that I believe was divine in nature. She was IMO one of the greatest voices of all time in her prime. It is a documented fact that she struggled with addiction to drugs. I myself do not necessarily buy in to the disease of addiction.
We make choices and eventually we experience the consequences of those choices for good or for bad. I believe that some people may be genetically more inclined to fall prey to addiction but ultimately we are held accountable for our choices and our actions.

I enjoyed her talent so much during her prime. There will always be times that I will want to hear a few of my favorite Whitney songs.

Not a single one of us knows the collective driving forces that drove her, Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse, Billie Holiday, and countless other great talents lose their lives due to drug and alcohol abuse. It is not our place to judge these people because you did not know them and you do not know what went on in their mind or behind closed doors.

It is not our place to judge the deceased. Of course we will have our opinions but that is different from passing judgement. It is my belief there is one and ONLY one who will judge.

BingoT · Feb 12, 2012

Very sad news indeed.
I love Whitney Houston from day one.
Rest In Peace Beautiful.
You will be missed by many.
May deepest sympathy to Family & Friends.

Mousey · Feb 12, 2012

It's sad to see another talent meet such an early end. She had a phenomenal voice.

I wasn't a fan, however. I just never cared for the type of songs she sang, and felt they were mismatched with that hallelujah voice.

Slightly OT... I wonder if there really is a preponderance of drug abuse (and related deaths) among the most talented among us - more than amongst the general population- or it just seems so because their getting caught with drugs and later deaths get plastered all over the daily news?

Tirilej · Feb 12, 2012

Mousey said:
It's sad to see another talent meet such an early end. She had a phenomenal voice.

I wasn't a fan, however. I just never cared for the type of songs she sang, and felt they were mismatched with that hallelujah voice.

Slightly OT... I wonder if there really is a preponderance of drug abuse (and related deaths) among the most talented among us - more than amongst the general population- or it just seems so because their getting caught with drugs and later deaths get plastered all over the daily news?

Maybe not an answer to your question, but I believe that it's more rare that a musician or someone that perform any kind of art, not having some sort of addiction, or have tried using drugs.
It's mostly very sensitive persons that have those abilities.
Then there thousands of other factors to it also. They can afford it, and it's more easy to find among those people.

RIP Whitney!

LaurieJim · Feb 12, 2012

shaggy5500 said:
What a shame she chose to waste away her talent on drugs, great role model she was for her daughter. Unfortunatly people in this world will idolize her versus she her for what she was - which was a drug abuser, poor parent, poor role model to millions who looked up to her and a selfish women who chose the above over wisdom and a opportunity to do good ifor others in this world with her wealth.

What a waste and what a shame is what should go on her tombstone.

How some are quick to judge based on what the media and tabloids like to feed us , here is just a list of things she did for humanity, a poor role model , I beg to disagree with you Sir or Madam :mad:

She started or sat on many charities, she also had a huge impact on bringing freedom to the many abused black people of South Africa by boycotting that country and speaking her mind, she also was well known for her childrens charities and for helping in Aids research funding by giving money or having concerts or just lending out her name.

A poor parent or role model , the world is full of them , no one is perfect , not even you nor me , so lets not judge , leave that up to the one who knew her best , her God Almighty.

Laurie

lettingyouknow · Feb 12, 2012

The saddest thing of all

I think the saddest thing of all, was that her daughter, who was right by her side was probably the one to put her in bed. She was acting erratic all day at the Beverly Hills Hotel. The guests had even complained and called security on Whitney for doing handstands at the pool area, skipping around the empty ballroom like a child and frailing her arms around.

Clive Davis does a Grammy pre-party their every year and Whitney, her daughter and her very large entourage were there. When the media was interviewing Clive Davis earlier in the day, Whitney was seen dancing off to the side and acting erratic to disrupt the interview, when the grammy personnel complained to her entourage to control her, that it would get out to the media and caught by cameras if she was not controlled. It is reported that it was her 14 yr old daughter that pulled her off and probably took her to her room to bed. Not knowing that this behavior called for medical attention and 911 to be called, instead of just sleeping it off.

But of course when you have the Grammy's to do in less than 24 hrs, who is going to call 911.

Nifty29 · Feb 12, 2012

GGW Laurie said:
How some are quick to judge based on what the media and tabloids like to feed us , here is just a list of things she did for humanity, a poor role model , I beg to disagree with you Sir or Madam

She started or sat on many charities, she also had a huge impact on bringing freedom to the many abused black people of South Africa by boycotting that country and speaking her mind, she also was well known for her childrens charities and for helping in Aids research funding by giving money or having concerts or just lending out her name.

A poor parent or role model , the world is full of them , no one is perfect , not even you nor me , so lets not judge , leave that up to the one who knew her best , her God Almighty.

Laurie

Just because there are many bad parents doesn't excuse it. It's like saying its OK to kill people because many others do it.

A drug addict IS an extremely poor role model, and hence cannot be a decent parent. When you don't have kids, anything you do just effects you and you suffer the consequences. Once you have a child, its not about you anymore.....you're responsible for teaching that child to be a responsible member of society by providing an example. A teenager shouldn't have to be looking after their drug-addled mother....its shameful and that child has been damaged for life because of the selfish and irresponsible actions of her junkie mum.

Yes, she was chemically addicted, but nobody forced her to start using drugs in the first place. Anyone over the age of 5 knows drugs are bad, and certainly as an adult she was 100% aware of the possibility of addiction.

We should be saving our tears and sympathy for those who dedicate their lives to saving lives and helping the less fortunate. Any rich celebrity can throw cash at a charity. She was born with a silver spoon in her mouth and had opportunities that 99.9% of other people can only dream of.....and she p*ssed it all away....which is her problem if it was just her, but she had a child and there is no more selfish an act than to put yourself before your child.

I'm not cold hearted, I just believe that too many people put on a pedestal those who they would normally not even look at as they sleep in alleys and on doorsteps, just because they can sing or dance or play sport or whatever.

The headstone should read "What a waste. What a shame"

LaurieJim · Feb 12, 2012

Nifty29 said:
Just because there are many bad parents doesn't excuse it. It's like saying its OK to kill people because many others do it.

A drug addict IS an extremely poor role model, and hence cannot be a decent parent. When you don't have kids, anything you do just effects you and you suffer the consequences. Once you have a child, its not about you anymore.....you're responsible for teaching that child to be a responsible member of society by providing an example. A teenager shouldn't have to be looking after their drug-addled mother....its shameful and that child has been damaged for life because of the selfish and irresponsible actions of her junkie mum.

Yes, she was chemically addicted, but nobody forced her to start using drugs in the first place. Anyone over the age of 5 knows drugs are bad, and certainly as an adult she was 100% aware of the possibility of addiction.

We should be saving our tears and sympathy for those who dedicate their lives to saving lives and helping the less fortunate. Any rich celebrity can throw cash at a charity. She was born with a silver spoon in her mouth and had opportunities that 99.9% of other people can only dream of.....and she p*ssed it all away....which is her problem if it was just her, but she had a child and there is no more selfish an act than to put yourself before your child.

I'm not cold hearted, I just believe that too many people put on a pedestal those who they would normally not even look at as they sleep in alleys and on doorsteps, just because they can sing or dance or play sport or whatever.

The headstone should read "What a waste. What a shame"

You have became really cold hearted over the last year Nifty , this is one of the reasons I quit posting so much at CM , no one can voice an opinion without you stomping all over it , you know everything , it must be wonderful to be so God like.

A well respected woman died and a child has lost her Mother and many fans have lost someone they loved , so show some respect or mercy why don't ya, you don't have to get on your CM high horse every frigging time , now do ya ?

Hell I might get my first bad rep point in 6 years but it will be worth it , so report me

Laurie

Nifty29 · Feb 12, 2012

GGW Laurie said:
You have became really cold hearted over the last year Nifty , this is one of the reasons I quit posting so much at CM , no one can voice an opinion without you stomping all over it , you know everything , it must be wonderful to be so God like.

A well respected woman died and a child has lost her Mother and many fans have lost someone they loved , so show some respect or mercy why don't ya, you don't have to get on your CM high horse every frigging time , now do ya ?

Hell I might get my first bad rep point in 6 years but it will be worth it , so report me

Laurie

1. Don't blame me or anyone else for "not posting much at CM". It's total BS. You can post whenever you like and nobody said you couldn't. If you decided not to post it was your decision. It is a total cop-out.

2. I did not say I knew everything. I express my opinion, and challenge the opinions of others. It's called a forum. If you don't want people to have a different POV than you, then maybe your decision not to post was a good one.

3. Just because YOU respected Whitney, doesn't mean everyone else did. I will show respect where it is deserved. On a musical level, she has a brilliant voice and I respect that totally. On a personal level, she was a drug addict just like the prostitutes and street kids.....only difference is that she could afford her drugs and didn't have to sell her body to pay for them. Lucky her....but an addict is an addict, and at least with most street kids and pros they have a horrible childhood and parental abuse and neglect as a reason for their lifestyle as they probably never knew any different. Whitney hadthe best of everything.

4.The way you're reacting to someone else's opinion of the situation is part of the problem with celebrity worship. If she had been your sister or cousin, or a close friend, then I might expect you to personally attack and insult me. However, you were as close to her as I was so what makes your opinion OK and mine not OK? You abuse me for "attacking" Whitney, whilst at the exact same time attacking me. Hypocrisy of the highest order Laurie. I said nothing about you personally, and you had no right to slag me off just because my opinion differs from yours. I haven't seen you posting about all the other junkies who have died over the years, who may well have been just as talented.

5. It's awfully sad for the child, and I do have sympathy for her without reservation. She didn't choose to have the mother she has, and being responsible for looking after and safeguarding a junkie parent is something no child should EVER have to do. She will find it very difficult to accept the situation, but I am certain that she will be far better off in the long term. I am deeply moved by any child being abused in that way..and that's what it is...abuse.

6. I am entitled to my opinion just like you are. Unlike you have just done, I challenge people's opinions on the facts and not their personal beliefs and character. Feel free to find instances where I have just abused someone outright like you just did, and I'll apologise for each and every time in public....problem is, you will never find me saying those kinds of things to anyone because I don't have to rely on character assassination to get my point across.

bsilva028 · Feb 12, 2012

Nifty29 said:
Just because there are many bad parents doesn't excuse it. It's like saying its OK to kill people because many others do it.

A drug addict IS an extremely poor role model, and hence cannot be a decent parent. When you don't have kids, anything you do just effects you and you suffer the consequences. Once you have a child, its not about you anymore.....you're responsible for teaching that child to be a responsible member of society by providing an example. A teenager shouldn't have to be looking after their drug-addled mother....its shameful and that child has been damaged for life because of the selfish and irresponsible actions of her junkie mum.

Yes, she was chemically addicted, but nobody forced her to start using drugs in the first place. Anyone over the age of 5 knows drugs are bad, and certainly as an adult she was 100% aware of the possibility of addiction.

We should be saving our tears and sympathy for those who dedicate their lives to saving lives and helping the less fortunate. Any rich celebrity can throw cash at a charity. She was born with a silver spoon in her mouth and had opportunities that 99.9% of other people can only dream of.....and she p*ssed it all away....which is her problem if it was just her, but she had a child and there is no more selfish an act than to put yourself before your child.

I'm not cold hearted, I just believe that too many people put on a pedestal those who they would normally not even look at as they sleep in alleys and on doorsteps, just because they can sing or dance or play sport or whatever.

The headstone should read "What a waste. What a shame"

there is nothing more selfish than to put forward her own son's ok, but now who will suffer most from the death is the child's that dont have any fault that the mother was on drugs, in any case never should wish or stay happy with the death of anyone....

like artist it was a good singer.

Nifty29 · Feb 13, 2012

bsilva028 said:
there is nothing more selfish than to put forward her own son's ok, but now who will suffer most from the death is the child's that dont have any fault that the mother was on drugs, in any case never should wish or stay happy with the death of anyone....

like artist it was a good singer.

Don't get me wrong - her death is tragic and I have never been happy about anyone's death, save for perhaps terrorists and murderers/molesters/rapists etc. What happened is awful. My point is that it was self-inflicted, and her drug abuse and resultant death has almost certainly scarred her daughter for life...and THAT is a million times sadder than her death.

(I don't know where you got the idea that I was happy she died :what:

)

LaurieJim · Feb 13, 2012

@ nifty, the whole tombstone thing is what set me off , who are we to judge ?

There are so many talented singers who have died that could have lived on , Elvis , Amy Whinehouse (sp) , Karen Carpenter , J. Joplin, Hendrix and the list goes on. They all did the drug thing , yet we still admire them and will continue to.

I do apologize Tim for my outburst , you are a decent person and human being but sometimes you tend to rub some the wrong way, not all the time but just sometimes

.

I also have alot of passion for the families that are left behind when someone is on drugs but we all have our addictions , whether it be drinking , gambling or name your poison , we are humans and we make mistakes, no one is perfect in this world.

Laurie

bsilva028 · Feb 13, 2012

Nifty29 said:
Don't get me wrong - her death is tragic and I have never been happy about anyone's death, save for perhaps terrorists and murderers/molesters/rapists etc. What happened is awful. My point is that it was self-inflicted, and her drug abuse and resultant death has almost certainly scarred her daughter for life...and THAT is a million times sadder than her death.

(I don't know where you got the idea that I was happy she died )

"We should be saving our tears and sympathy for those who dedicate their lives to saving lives"

i think that "tears" we only have for some people
but sympathy i think it should be for all people, except (terrorists and murderers/molesters/rapists of course)

I have much more worth is what will be the child grow up without his real mother? (I feel sorry for her as much as any child growing up without a mother, regardless if it was someone famous or not)

Pulver · Feb 13, 2012

Rest in peace.

Realitybitez · Feb 13, 2012

I loved Whitney Huston back in the days before she hit the drugs :eek2:

IMO she was one of the all time greats :thumbsup:

From the day she got hooked on drugs, her life went downhill....

Such a tragic waste of such a great talent

RIP Whitney

maxd · Feb 13, 2012

GGW Laurie said:
I do apologize Tim for my outburst ....

AFAIC this should pretty much bury the hatchet. Thank you for doing so.

To all the other readers: Whatever opinion folks may have here it's just their opinion. Do keep that well in mind and not take those opinions personally.

Thank you for your cooperation and for making it your personal goal to maintain the peace in this, and all, threads. :thumbsup:

Glunn11 · Feb 13, 2012

Rather poignant that this was her last single. I've never been a mega-fan but this got to me something awful last night.

May she rest in peace.

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