Major Absolute Poker Issue

[lots0]

Originally Posted by mussy

Hey, please don't go yet, lots0.

Sorry mussy, I'm outta this public discussion.

PM me and I'll be happy to answer your questions.

[pokeraddict]

Originally Posted by lots0

Sorry mussy, I'm outta this public discussion.

PM me and I'll be happy to answer your questions.

LOL, so you bitch and bitch that you don't like the evidence, that it is all made up and AP is going to come and sue us for all we have. Now you have the originals of several master hh's along with headers and you are off to hide? I wonder why.... There must be more to that.

[pokeraddict]

Originally Posted by Jstyal

Regulation of online poker rooms in the states will just mean higher licensing fees for a room to start up, which will be passed down to us it the form of higher rake. It will also mean more government interference in the way of our affairs (the irs will inexplicably tax all poker winnings, whether you're a taxpayer or non-taxpayer, whether you're a citizen or foreigner, somewhere during the cashout stage).

Keep in mind that a good chunk of our rake goes towards fraud. If the industry were regulated the funding sources would be much more legit and the fraud would go way down IMO.

[lots0]

LOL, so you bitch and bitch that you don't like the evidence, that it is all made up and AP is going to come and sue us for all we have. Now you have the originals of several master hh's along with headers and you are off to hide? I wonder why.... There must be more to that.

I say this with all due respect... Go Fuck yourself pokeraddict.

I am sick of all the constant accusations and innuendos. Thats why I'am quiting this public discussion.

But, you pokeraddict just had to get some more innuendo laid down on me and I just had to answer.

Well If I am any judge of Simmo, this will get me a time out... I deserve it.

[Keyser]

Originally Posted by lots0

I was not the one doing the threatening, I was only pointing out that AP has made some not so veiled threats to the accusers.

From the latest Absolute Poker Statement:


I don't know how you read that paragraph of AP's statement, but to me it looks that if GA does not find anything wrong, AP's lawyers are going to be paying some visits.

So no, I was not threatening anyone, just pointing out part of a statement from AP.

I am done posting in this thread. I am Tired of the all the crap and false accusations I'm now getting from some folks just because I did not "fall in line" with them and condemn AP without any real evidence. What really hurts are the jabs and accusations from people that I respect and that should know better.

FYI - there is still NO real evidence, just accusations against AP.
If you think public forum postings are evidence, your intelligence is definitely in question, at least as far as I am concerned.

I'll wait to see the report from Gamingassociates.com. If GA says AP was cheating I'll Rogue them, but only if GA says that the current AP management is involved.

Of course, it looks like some folks are already trying to get into position to make GA look like they are in AP's pocket, even though they are not.

Anyway I'm done.

I'll let the lynch mob continue without my input.

You have actually had access to lots of evidence, in the forms of hand histories and player accounts of what happened. You may not think this evidence is conclusive, you may not be satisfied that the evidence is not forged, you may not be satisfied that it proves what the accusers claim it proves, but don't sit there and pretend that you have had no evidence, that every accusation is pure conjecture.

Furthermore, I bet if the person who sent you the Excel file knew you were going to react this way, considering all of the personal info that is on there, they never would have sent it to you.

Lastly, while I dont think you were threatening anyone directly when you brought up the whole thing about lawsuits coming if AP is exonerated by the firm they hired, you certainly were trying to stifle debate.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by lots0

blah blah blah

Well If I am any judge of Simmo, this will get me a time out... I deserve it.

You're a good judge of my character at least - 14 days

[thelawnet]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

The Gaming Association is one thing, and I am curious to see what they come up with. Believe me, there are other people on this, and this next week should be an interesting one

I did actually email the Minister, explaining how Kahnawake had failed to take action against Golden Palace's sabotage of the Olympics, the non-action against the Jackpot Factory SEO stuff ('online slots cured my arthritis', etc.), its status as a refuge for the likes of the Crystal Palace group, and in particular its antics in relation to an underage player (something that is supposed to be a primary concern of licensees), and of the obsessive gambler whose winnings were confiscated (again, supposed to be a primary concern of licensees to support problem gamblers), and the fact that Kahnawake simply does not respond to complaints.

I received only a non-commital response, two months later, which read, in part, "we will be stringently assessing the effectiveness and integrity of the regulators in those jurisdictions [Kahnawake and Antigua] before allowing their operators to advertise within the UK"

[pokeraddict]

I am sick of all the constant accusations and innuendos.

So are those of us spending all of our time to get this story out and investigate. You have everything you have asked for and each time you are still not satisified. Please drop the language, there is no reason to be so abusive. I am trying my best to do a service to those here that do not want to follow the hundreds of pages of threads at 2+2/P5's and NWP.

Guess I type slow sometimes. I see he is on vacation now.

[GaryWatson]

Unban lots0

He may have stepped over the line with the name calling, but thats it. Controversial thread. Give him his due & lets make this as unbiased as we can.

[pokeraddict]

The entire community owes a huge thank you to Crazymarco, Nat, Adanthar, JoseM and countless others that have helped compile the proof needed to expose the rogue acts that have taken place at Absolute Poker. These people may have saved the poker community hundreds of thousands of dollars if not more if it had been allowed to continue. The ball is now in AP's court if they want to make this as close to right as they can.