Major Absolute Poker Issue

[Adanthar]

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

Why the hell am I been linked to that guy??

Really weird... at 2+2 they claimed we were the same person.

I have never used another alias at Casinomeister, eog, therx, 2+2 or pocketfives...

Anyways, I really think its quite bad what is happening with Absolute... on the other hand I really dislike tons of forum posters pretending to know about Poker security and everyone goes around analyzing hands and figures they don't even get.

Something funny is going on with these guys, don't know what though... It could be a group of professional scammers, and inside job, world war III, what ever... ONE THING IS FOR SURE... the idea of a super account is just the most paranoid and stupid idea I have ever herd.

Any ways, lets hope the people that were affected by this issue get some compensation...

Hi, The Watchdog,

Last we met you on 2+2, you were posting in this thread, started by this OP:

POTSLAMMER
stranger


Reged: 08/21/07
Posts: 3
Loc: Costa Rica

You'd better fucking hope they get compensated, Scott.

[patient77]

Originally Posted by lots0

This is the entire problem... you guys just keep assuming... You see No proof .... You just assume the people telling you AP is cheating are telling the truth.

You assume they have the proof.

You assume AP is cheating... without seeing any of the evidence yourself.

You just keep assuming... That is your choice.

My choice is to see the evidence myself before I condemn.

did you watch the tournament that was posted here where it was obvious the winner had access to everyones hole cards? since you still aren't convinced,
is it your belief that there is a conspiracy and that the hand histories were all fake and made up by people with nothing better to do?


i have no idea why i responded to this guy, but im just curious as to what his beliefs are. EVERYONE with pokertracker and tournament results is in on this conspiracy to prove this online site is rigged, and lotso isn't going to be fooled!!!!

[lots0]

Originally Posted by lojo

I imagine when lots0 is satisfied, you will not see a louder voice condemning AP.

Thank You.

Originally Posted by pokeraddict

He's been wanting to see the headers and says once headers have been posted that have not been altered he will be convinced.

That is not quite what I said. What I wanted to see was the entire (complete) unedited email including the email headers. I still have not seen that.

I have requested from AP a copy of the hand history from the tournament that pokeraddict gave in this thread. I guess we will see what happens.

If they provide me a copy of the hand history, I would like to compare it to the hand history that is being talked about but not published in it's unedited form.

If it is alright with CM, I'll post the entire hand history from AP here after I receive it.

If AP does not supply me with the hand history, I guess I'll have no choice but to consider them a Rouge, as they have always supplied me with hand histories whenever I have requested one. I'll give AP until this Friday.

Over the past years, I have received several hand histories from AP and I know it should only take them 24 hours or less to provide the hand history.

Of course we really will need to see the unedited version of this email as well. So if CM is willing how about posting it here as well? So we can all compare them?

@Pokeraddict
So far how many people have said they have played in the tournament and agree with the edited hands that have been posted in the forums?

@Gary Watson
So did you really think you were exposing me??? If I were allowed to call people names here in CM's forum, I would call you an asshole, but as we are not supposed to call people names here at Casinomeister... I won't

[Adanthar]

You know what, I'm not done with you yet, Scott.

Pokermachine:

Login Name: scotttom
Display Name:
Member Title:
Name Color:
Real Email Address: [edited]
Display Email Address:
Full Name:
Registration / First IP: 02/26/04 08:54 PM - 196.40.37.120
Last Post / IP: 06/22/07 06:32 PM - 196.40.67.178
Member Rating: Not Rated

The Watchdog:

Login Name: the watchdog
Display Name:
Member Title:
Name Color:
Real Email Address: [edited]
Display Email Address:
Full Name:
Registration / First IP: 08/14/07 01:51 PM - 196.40.67.178
Last Post / IP: 10/10/07 01:22 PM - 196.40.67.178

If you're not Scott, it might be best to find a new network to post from.

[Pinababy69]

Adanthar, could you clarify for anyone here who hasn't read the 2+2 thread who Scott Tom is?

[Adanthar]

Originally Posted by Pinababy69

Adanthar, could you clarify for anyone here who hasn't read the 2+2 thread who Scott Tom is?

1)The President of AP Entertainment
2)Superuser #363
3)Potripper

Take your pick, they're all good.

[lots0]

So Adanthar,

do you have a copy of this email hand history from AP that everyone is so up in arms about?

If so why don't you post it, without editing it?


And it is no secret that Watchdog is out of Costa Rica...
I think there are at least a dozen or so other people that live in Costa Rica that may have computers hooked up to the internet.

[Adanthar]

Originally Posted by lots0

So Adanthar,

do you have a copy of this email hand history from AP that everyone is so up in arms about?

If so why don't you post it, without editing it?

#1)It's 9.5 megs of extremely hard to read, dense data with no line breaks that also intersperses different tables with each other if you sort by timestamp
#2)It has the IP's and email addresses (half of the login info) for every player and observer who opened/closed a table during the 2.5 hours the info is from
#3)It has data on 14 tables, 13 of which are totally irrelevant to the topic

If you can get enough people to vouch for your ability not to leak the thing so every hacker on the planet can target everyone named inside, you too can have a copy.

[lots0]

If you can get enough people to vouch for your ability not to leak the thing so every hacker on the planet can target everyone named inside, you too can have a copy

Let me get this straight, I have to be in your "club" or vouched for by someone in your "club" to be able to see the unedited evidence... That sounds rather odd to me.

It has the IP's and email addresses (half of the login info) for every player and observer who opened/closed a table during the 2.5 hours the info is from

FYI - The IP numbers would not mean anything, they would be from the ISP's (most all would be dynamic IP's ) and not the IP's of personal computers involved.

So all you are protecting are some email address that people use for the poker rooms...

I guess making sure a few folks don't get some more spam emails is way more important than providing this all important and damning evidence to the public.

It's 9.5 megs of extremely hard to read, dense data with no line breaks that also intersperses different tables with each other if you sort by timestamp

so it is a small csv file? That should be very easy to parse out.

It has data on 14 tables, 13 of which are totally irrelevant to the topic

So we ignore that data... No big deal.

If space is such an issue I'll host it for free.

Lets see this email posted unedited in public.

[GaryWatson]

Dont worry WATCHDOG, you have been implicated too.

http://www.pokeraffiliateworld.com/f...-thread-7.html