Major Absolute Poker Issue

[Adanthar]

We are talking Proof right? Some fact that can not be explained in any other way than Absolute Poker is cheating?

Well lets all take a look see at your proof....

My email is adanthar@gmail.com. I've posted everything I have on 2+2, all of which is linked from the first few pages (most from the first post) of the BBV thread, but as I said, if you would like independent corroboration, email me and I'll send you the raw histories.

[ZFitz]

MY understanding (as an Affiliate of AP's)

Just seen this. Well that's me done with wasting my time replying to someone with an obvious agenda. To the other's arguing with him, he's already been given the proof so maybe just leave it at that and stop replying to him making it look as if there is actually is some debate on the issue when in fact everyone (other than lots0) himself is in agreement.

[Casinomeister]

...YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN THE FUCKING PROOF IDIOT! The whole poker community is on agreement on it. Ok, I'm done.

Do NOT turn this thread into a slam/flame fest. There is some very important information being discussed here and it is not a place for rants. As mentioned, read the forum rules please.

...Any word from them Bryan?

So far - no response, which I find alarming.

...I had seen a post at 2+2 that implied that Watchdog's IP had been linked to an employee of Absolute, but couldn't find it when I went back to look.

Bryan, is there any way that you can do a check on Watchdog's IP

He's in CR like a number of other forum members. Nothing here indicates that he is associated with AP.

I'll begin to look into this. I have a lot on my plate at the moment, but this issue seems serious enough to warn the gaming community on what's going on. Something isn't quite right here. If Absolute Poker is not willing to provide the gaming community with a thorough explanation about what is happening, then what are players supposed to do??

[Adanthar]

Incidentally, how's the fight between "ethical search engine marketing" and yourself working out?

SEO & ethics: you have been one of the biggest debunkers of this marketing angle for me. Based on a few comments it seems you have a distaste for the SEO ethics crowd. Why do you have such a distaste for many people proclaiming to be "ethical" SEOs?

I was there when the first 'ethical' SEO poked his cowboy hat clad head out from under a rock.

I guess my distaste for the SEO 'ethics' crowd began because I knew the people involved before they became 'ethical' and I was part of original discussions(if you can call them that) about SEO 'ethics'.

I watched as a few SEOs who's business was not doing so well at the time spring to the SEO forefront as they proclaimed they were 'ethical' and all the other SEOs (that did not go along) were evil spammers. Once these self-named 'ethical' SEOs figured out they could get clients and a following of ditto heads by claiming they were 'ethical' they were off and running.

Fortunately, I think the 'ethical' SEO fad has about ran it course, it is fading fast as a marketing method.

Clients don't really care about being 'ethical' as defined by a big corporation like google(or some cowboy hat wearing SEO wannabe), clients care much more about conversions and issues directly related to their business.

[lots0]

Adanthar thanks for posting that, I am rather proud of what I said in that interview with Aaron Wall.

but you are derailing this thread. Instead of trying (lamley) to attack me why not just provide some proof of what you say.

What you have posted on 2+2 is not proof, no matter how many times you call it that.

@CM, I also find the fact that AP has not formally responded to these accusations appears rather damming. But if the investigation is through it is going to take more than just a few days to sort through it all.

And just for you new posters here... I have NEVER hid the fact that I am an affiliate of some of the programs. If you want to keep beating a dead horse, please keep bringing it up, it is good for my business.

[Casinomeister]

...@CM, I also find the fact that AP has not formally responded to these accusations yet appears rather damming. But if the investigation is through it is going to take more than just a few days to sort through it all...

I'm sure they'll respond sooner or later. But a even a "we'll get back to you later" response is better than nothing at all.

[mg_]

Casinomeister,

In response to:

...I had seen a post at 2+2 that implied that Watchdog's IP had been linked to an employee of Absolute, but couldn't find it when I went back to look.

Bryan, is there any way that you can do a check on Watchdog's IP

You said,

He's in CR like a number of other forum members. Nothing here indicates that he is associated with AP.

If you refer to the below thread on Two Plus Two, 'The Watchdog' has been busted as sharing an IP with multiple known Absolute Poker shills. This was after having lied about not working for or being affiliated with Absolute. He had previously stated on that forum, before this came to light, that he is the same The Watchdog that posts here.

He was caught and outed, and instructed to stop spamming, by the moderator of 2+2's Internet Gambling forum, Mike Haven (see the following quote).

How's the weather in Costa Rica today?

Please come clean about who you are, potslammer/pokermachine/the watchdog, and stop your underhanded spamming of AP.

It really doesn't become someone in your position.

Source thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...e#Post11782063

[I Like Pie]

Adanthar said:


Then lets see it.


We are talking Proof right? Some fact that can not be explained in any other way than Absolute Poker is cheating?

Well lets all take a look see at your proof....

And just who is this "we" you speak of?

All you need:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0#Post12127403

It's pretty clear that these players can see the other players' cards.

[lots0]

...pretty clear...

'pretty clear' is NOT proof....

At best some of what was posted at 2+2 could be considered Circumstantial Evidence, but no way it is PROOF.

[Swede]

Adanthar,

Do you have the 8/23 and 9/13 HHs available? If so, please send to:

modpower55@yahoo.se

Thanks.