Resolved crazy luck casino a big problem! help me please!

Fourses · Jul 13, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">I'm waiting for the payment of 2 months! I made a deposit, sent all the documents, my account is verified.<br /> support each time I was deceiving, and ignored.<br /> I do not know that already I do, I really want my honest winnings.<br /> Today July 13, and still they continue to lie to me.<br /> I am asking for your help in this matter!<br /> <br /> my username for this casino: <b><span style="color: #FF0000">Fourses</span></b><br /> <br /> this is my last conversation with them... which has not solved the problem.<br /> <br /> You are now chatting with 'shane'<br /> shane: Hi<br /> shane: How may I help you please ?<br /> Veera: I do not understand what's going on! Do you realize what is happening? I expect PAYMENT 2 months!!! Where is my money? you enter the Rival network, I have always trusted the network!<br /> Veera: why ignore and constantly lying to me? How much can you expect it is already possible? =((((((((((<br /> shane: please give me a moment to verify your account<br /> Veera: Shane You gave me your word of honor and a half months ago! I get my winnings, and that is a high priority.<br /> Veera: I made a deposit, the documents sent, the account was verified! Why did I wait 2 months for payment?<br /> shane: i have forward your request to the finance team to get paid you <br /> Veera: You have already done 10 times<br /> Veera: same every time you say so, and then ignored<br /> shane: no i ma ignoring you<br /> Veera: and what do you do? wait a year? or what to expect?<br /> shane: this time i will personally help you to get the withdraw<br /> Veera: You have said that already! even promised! long! Call them right now, but then again we do not call as usual<br /> Veera: what a way to spoil the reputation when you can be a good casino?<br /> <br /> <br /> Veera: and? why you make so much waiting<br /> shane: sorry for the delay<br /> shane: it will be payed within 2 days<br /> shane: i've forwarded it to the financial departement<br /> Veera: I hope after 2 days I will not have to re-write<br /> shane: yes<br /> Veera: ok<br /> shane: ty for understanding<br /> Veera: ty if you make it Finally</div>

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Fourses · Jul 17, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="KasinoKing" data-source="post: 498983" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=498983" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-498983">KasinoKing said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You know, even I am getting fed up with trying to help players who have problems with this casino.<br /> Not that I am normally selfish - but there's nothing in it for me... except grief. <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/frown.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /><br /> <br /> So I say Pitch-A-Bitch!<br /> <br /> This is CasinoMeister's FREE service to help players with problems at non-rogue casinos.<br /> <br /> To submit your PAB, click here: <b><a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/player-arbitration-pab/" class="link link--internal">Pitch-A-Bitch</a></b><br /> Be sure to read ALL the terms for submitting a PAB, including the Frequently Asked Questions here: <b><a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/pab-rules/" class="link link--internal">PAB FAQs</a></b><br /> <br /> Good luck!<br /> KK </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> if you help me deal with it, 10 euros for skill transfer via the payment, I understand what you just help the sick</div>

David Miller · Jul 17, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">Hi,<br /> <br /> The payment is with MB, and there was a delay with MB payments due to issue. But now everything is fine and you will receive your withdrawal with in 3-4 working days<br /> <br /> Apologies for the inconvenience !!<br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate Account Manager</div>

Nifty29 · Jul 17, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="David Miller" data-source="post: 499110" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=499110" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-499110">David Miller said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> <br /> The payment is with MB, and there was a delay with MB payments due to issue. But now everything is fine and you will receive your withdrawal with in 3-4 working days<br /> <br /> Apologies for the inconvenience !!<br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate Account Manager </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> What issue?<br /> <br /> Only one "issue" I can think of that would delay a MB payment....$$$$$$.....<br /> <br /> Why is it now going to take 3-4 WORKING days?? Skrill transfers are INSTANT.<br /> <br /> Friendly warning - don't bother with spin or BS excuses here at CM. We are experienced players who can smell it a mile away.</div>

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Fourses · Jul 17, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">Money received! Thank you! I hope that in the future so long no longer have to wait! Thank you, I'm happy!</div>

Mousey · Jul 17, 2012

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vinylweatherman · Jul 17, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="David Miller" data-source="post: 499110" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=499110" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-499110">David Miller said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> <br /> The payment is with MB, and there was a delay with MB payments <b>due to issue</b>. But now everything is fine and you will receive your withdrawal with in 3-4 working days<br /> <br /> Apologies for the inconvenience !!<br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate Account Manager </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> My thoughts are that this "issue" was merchant account NSF. There is no way an "issue" at Skrill's end would be allowed to last a week, let alone the best part of 2 months.<br /> <br /> I know from experience what happens with merchant account NSF. The eWallet will NOT tell the player what the problem is, privacy, data protection, bullshit, etc. But the symptoms are pretty clear. The "issue" is not under the control of the eWallet, and they will NOT complete the transaction until the casino refills their merchant account. This can result in a prolonged "stand off" situation where each party just blames the other, or vaguely refers to "issues", but nothing will get either party to admit this is a FUNDING issue.<br /> <br /> Where such an issue is accidental, it should be resolved by the merchant moving money from their company bank account to the relevant merchant account to allow payments to proceed. At worst, this can delay payment by 3-5 days due to how the banking system works, and the fact that "cleared" funds would be required in the merchant account before payments resume.<br /> <br /> Some merchants (casinos) just don't bother checking return transaction numbers, and thus the first they hear of such a problem is when a player starts asking "where's my money". The response is often to ASSUME, not check, that all is essentially OK and the problem will clear of it's own accord given time, so give the complaining player platitudes and excuses to buy that time, whilst trying to convince the player that they are actually doing something other than just waiting a couple of extra days. If the assumption is wrong, the operator is in an even deeper hole as they have made no effective use of the lengthening delay, and when they find out it is NOT a self correcting problem, are faced with expanding on their initial lie as they need more time to ACTUALLY do what they said they had already done.<br /> <br /> A bigger problem is when the operator simply lacks the liquidity to perform this balancing, and therefore cannot move funds to an empty merchant account to balance outgoings. This places the withdrawals at the mercy of other players making deposits by the same method and same currency so that the merchant account gets funded again. This can create persistent "Rushmore style" problems where some players get paid fast, and others wait "forever", with no clear pattern emerging as to the cause.<br /> <br /> Rival are known to make this problem worse when it comes to white label sites where Rival perform the processing. It has emerged that there is a point at which Rival will suspend the payment of player withdrawals where a white label has not paid into Rival a sufficient amount to cover them, along with other charges levied by Rival. It is a means to force the white label to pay up, but it is the players that bear the brunt of such internal disputes. A persistent problem of this nature at a particular Rival white label is an early indication that things are heading south. Fortunately, Rival are one of the few providers that WILL usually bail out the players when a white label fails completely, however this does not kick in whilst the white label is still trading, and can mean long delays until some players see their money.<br /> <br /> It is going to be hard for Rival to wriggle out of this, because in a past crisis where many white labels folded in close succession, the CEO of Rival went on record to promise that no player of a failed white label would suffer permanent loss, as Rival would take over the failed casino and run it themselves whilst seeking a new buyer. Players' balances being preserved in the process.</div>

rymetymeuk · Jul 27, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">@David Miller,<br /> <br /> I too second welcoming you to this forum. I have been also having issues with payouts from Crazy Luck, username: rymetymeuk. I hope you can also assist me.<br /> <br /> It's such a shame when Casino's delay payments, we all love to play, but when casino's don't play fair we take our money elsewhere. I personally really enjoy the games there, but I take into account payout timings when deciding where to play my hard earned cash.<br /> <br /> I'm owed $21,000 by Crazy Luck, so you can imagine my worry and agitation for delays. Rant over <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>

Mousey · Jul 28, 2012

The trust of the innocent is the liar's most useful tool. -- Stephen King

Nifty29 · Jul 28, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">The casino should rename itself to Crazy Schmuck to describe those who deposit there.<br /> <br /> Ryme......don't hold your breath. You'd have more luck asking Vinylweatherman to keep his posts under 1000 words than getting paid from these crooks.</div>

David Miller · Jul 31, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="rymetymeuk" data-source="post: 500841" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=500841" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-500841">rymetymeuk said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> @David Miller,<br /> <br /> I too second welcoming you to this forum. I have been also having issues with payouts from Crazy Luck, username: rymetymeuk. I hope you can also assist me.<br /> <br /> It's such a shame when Casino's delay payments, we all love to play, but when casino's don't play fair we take our money elsewhere. I personally really enjoy the games there, but I take into account payout timings when deciding where to play my hard earned cash.<br /> <br /> I'm owed $21,000 by Crazy Luck, so you can imagine my worry and agitation for delays. Rant over <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Hi xxxx,<br /> <br /> Sorry for all inconvenience !!<br /> <br /> As i checked your account, You won progressive RIVAL jackpot won at our casino. We received your wire transfer details. We will pay you first installment of $5000 with in few days. We are in talks with RIVAL about your progressive jackpot winnings<br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate Account Manager</div>

David Miller · Jul 31, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Mousey" data-source="post: 500923" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=500923" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-500923">Mousey said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Oh dear.... <br /> <br /> Please send the casino rep a private message with pertinent details as he may not monitor the forum daily. (This goes for any others out there with Crazy Lucky payout delay problems!) If your issue is legit and the casino doesn't respond to your satisfaction, please consider the PAB (pitch a bitch) service here at CM. At the top of the forum you will see a link for PAB FAQ. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hi xxxx,<br /> <br /> We sent your withdrawal amount by wire transfer yesterday. You will receive with in 5-6 working days<br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate Account Manager</div>

vinylweatherman · Jul 31, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="David Miller" data-source="post: 501355" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=501355" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-501355">David Miller said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi David,<br /> <br /> Sorry for all inconvenience !!<br /> <br /> As i checked your account, You won progressive RIVAL jackpot won at our casino. We received your wire transfer details. We will pay you first installment of $5000 with in few days. <b>We are in talks with RIVAL about your progressive jackpot winnings</b><br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate Account Manager </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Eh<img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/confused.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-shortname=":confused:" /><br /> <br /> Don't talk about it, PAY it!!!!<br /> <br /> Progressives are funded by contributions taken from all players, there should be the funds already available to pay it immediately without "talking about it".<br /> <br /> <br /> By the way, haven't heard from your brother Kevin for quite a while - I hope he is well. He used to send me loads of emails with offers for casinos, some of which didn't even exist. I even had some from YOU, which is why your username here is so striking.</div>

buggars · Aug 1, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">I too like a fool was a depositor here and i played a free $30 ndb and made playthru max co of $300. This was a couple of weeks ago. I'm still waiting and they have given me all sort of excuses cleex2x user id there<br /> buggars</div>

David Miller · Aug 1, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="buggars" data-source="post: 501575" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=501575" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-501575">buggars said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I too like a fool was a depositor here and i played a free $30 ndb and made playthru max co of $300. This was a couple of weeks ago. I'm still waiting and they have given me all sort of excuses cleex2x user id there<br /> buggars </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hi xxxx,<br /> <br /> My apologies for late reply !!<br /> <br /> As i checked your account, you have pending withdrawal of $128.05 with us. We have received your wire transfer details. We will pay you with in 72 hrs by wire transfer<br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate Account Manager</div>

buggars · Aug 1, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">David that amount is incorrect its suppose to be $300 please speak with henri the max cashout on the free $30 ndb was $300 not $128<br /> cleex2x<br /> this is the promo i used <br /> <br /> <br /> $30 no deposit bonus from Crazy Luck Casino<br /> <br /> Check your casino accounts<br /> <br /> New $30 casino bonus inside casino account<br /> 100X – $3000 Rollover<br /> 10X – $300 You can withdraw<br /> <br /> If any casino player will have problem to get free chip, ask to live support. They will resolve issues<br /> <br /> USA Players are welcome<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> note *** 10x-$300 you can withdraw</div>

rjb · Aug 3, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">David Miller a few of us were just wondering if you are also the casino manager at Casino Royal Club?</div>

David Miller · Aug 3, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="rjb" data-source="post: 501870" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=501870" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-501870">rjb said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> David Miller a few of us were just wondering if you are also the casino manager at Casino Royal Club? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hi rjb,<br /> <br /> I don't know whose guys are spreading such rumours about our casino. We are not related to any other RIVAL casino. We are owned by Eurotech Group Ltd. <br /> <br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate account Manager</div>

rymetymeuk · Aug 3, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">Hey David Miller,<br /> <br /> Well its been a few days and no payment yet, please can you update me on what's going on with my payment? <br /> Thanks<br /> rymetymeuk</div>

chuchu59 · Aug 3, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="David Miller" data-source="post: 501890" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=501890" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-501890">David Miller said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi rjb,<br /> <br /> I don't know whose guys are spreading such rumours about our casino. We are not related to any other RIVAL casino. We are owned by Eurotech Group Ltd. <br /> <br /> <br /> Dave<br /> Affiliate account Manager </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Its not that we dont trust you but Rival casinos have .... urhmmm earned this sort of negative perception and my advice to players is to tread carefully and wait till it is proven that they have no relationship Caino Royal club which does not seem to have a sound reputation before depositing. Sorry Dave but there have been too many Rival casinos that brought the brand a bad name eg Irish Luck, ThisisVegas etc.</div>

buggars · Aug 4, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">has anyone been paid yet? I sill haven't it was suppose to be in 72hrs and its been that and no word yet. <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/mad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-shortname=":mad:" /></div>

Pocketdiggers77 · Aug 4, 2012

<div class="bbWrapper">I was paid by Crazy Luck and it took them more than a full month. They kept stalling saying my wire details were wrong but the entire time it was you will be paid in 3-4 days. Week after week. They finally did pay though. A huge PITA and I wont be playing at another Rival until it is accredited here.</div>

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